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Gun Control - Ghost Guns...
« on: May 21, 2018, 02:39:29 PM »
So what good is gun control when now - many of our friends are deciding the build their own guns ... unregistered, unserialized, unlicensed...

What is worse, since here in California, they are making it harder to get a gun, many gang members and criminals are deciding to make their own guns.

So for all of those screaming and yelling about gun control - what about these Ghost Guns.... is this ok with you now...



http://www.cbs17.com/news/investigators/ghost-guns-no-registration-no-serial-numbers-100-percent-legal-1/1171609833

https://argonautnews.com/the-arsenal-next-door/

https://www.ghostguns.com/




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Re: Gun Control - Ghost Guns...
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2018, 03:15:48 PM »
We've learned NOTHING prohibition does NOT work , it never has a, it does is create a back market and everything associated with it.

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Re: Gun Control - Ghost Guns...
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2018, 05:24:45 PM »
So what good is gun control when now - many of our friends are deciding the build their own guns ... unregistered, unserialized, unlicensed...

What is worse, since here in California, they are making it harder to get a gun, many gang members and criminals are deciding to make their own guns.

So for all of those screaming and yelling about gun control - what about these Ghost Guns.... is this ok with you now...

http://www.cbs17.com/news/investigators/ghost-guns-no-registration-no-serial-numbers-100-percent-legal-1/1171609833

https://argonautnews.com/the-arsenal-next-door/

https://www.ghostguns.com/


In Ca no lowers are sold without numbers anymore and you have until next month to register your ARs, convert to comply or become a felon. Thanks Jerry Brown!!
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Re: Gun Control - Ghost Guns...
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2018, 05:28:55 PM »
In Ca no lowers are sold without numbers anymore and you have until next month to register your ARs, convert to comply or become a felon. Thanks Jerry Brown!!

80% lowers are not " lowers " they're not firearms according to the BATF

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Re: Gun Control - Ghost Guns...
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2018, 05:32:20 PM »
80% lowers are not " lowers " they're not firearms according to the BATF

Ca has some fucked up laws.
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Re: Gun Control - Ghost Guns...
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2018, 07:33:40 PM »
That is strange because some of our friends in California just ordered the lowers and did not need to do anything to get them.  And some of them are ordering quite a few to bypass the July 1st serial number deal...  BUT this is only for California, not the other 49 states???



"In July 2016, California passed AB 857 which requires all completed firearms to have a serial number applied by Jan 1, 2019. An 80% lower is not a firearm, so a serial number would only be required once the 80% lower is completed. Unfinished 80% lower receivers do not need a serial number. You may engrave a serial number of your choosing into your completed 80% lower prior to Jul 1, 2018.  In other words, you can make up any serial number you want (as long as it meets ATF's definition of a serial number), engrave it on your receiver, and this will satisfy California’s legal requirement. After July, 2018, the law changes for the worse. If you build an 80% lower after July 1, 2018, you must FIRST apply to the California DOJ for a serial number, pay a fee, and they will then assign a serial number that you must apply to your firearm. In this case, you can’t choose your own serial number.  If you build an 80% lower and use your own “unregistered" serial number after July 2018, it would be a misdemeanor.



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Re: Gun Control - Ghost Guns...
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2018, 08:59:43 PM »
That is strange because some of our friends in California just ordered the lowers and did not need to do anything to get them.  And some of them are ordering quite a few to bypass the July 1st serial number deal...  BUT this is only for California, not the other 49 states???



"In July 2016, California passed AB 857 which requires all completed firearms to have a serial number applied by Jan 1, 2019. An 80% lower is not a firearm, so a serial number would only be required once the 80% lower is completed. Unfinished 80% lower receivers do not need a serial number. You may engrave a serial number of your choosing into your completed 80% lower prior to Jul 1, 2018.  In other words, you can make up any serial number you want (as long as it meets ATF's definition of a serial number), engrave it on your receiver, and this will satisfy California’s legal requirement. After July, 2018, the law changes for the worse. If you build an 80% lower after July 1, 2018, you must FIRST apply to the California DOJ for a serial number, pay a fee, and they will then assign a serial number that you must apply to your firearm. In this case, you can’t choose your own serial number.  If you build an 80% lower and use your own “unregistered" serial number after July 2018, it would be a misdemeanor.



I thought this went into effect Jan 1st for the lowers? Whatever, I lost all mine in a boating accident.

Bigger question is......how many ghost guns does Ron own? :D
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Re: Gun Control - Ghost Guns...
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2018, 09:53:54 AM »
Fuck California.  May it break off and slide into the sea.

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Re: Gun Control - Ghost Guns...
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2018, 11:44:24 AM »
Damn, I’m not sure what the answer is for all this school shooting stuff. I feel like most mentally healthy Americans should be able to purchase a firearm but the current situation has to change.  In Michigan it’s entirely too easy to purchase a rifle.   When I bought my AR I was in and out of the store in 20 mins.  For pistols you must take a written test (all common sense) and register it with your city.  California on the other hand has gone wayyy to far restrictive.

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Re: Gun Control - Ghost Guns...
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2018, 12:20:07 PM »
yeah, the gun relaxation needs to happen as soon as possible.
True story: As a kid living in a small town in Serbia one guy shot an RPG into another person's candy shop located in a house because he was muslim. The next day the Serbian lady that owned and lived  in the house, called everybody that gathered around the scene "phaggots" since no one came to check on her right after it happened.
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Re: Gun Control - Ghost Guns...
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2018, 06:16:12 PM »
Damn, I’m not sure what the answer is for all this school shooting stuff. I feel like most mentally healthy Americans should be able to purchase a firearm but the current situation has to change.  In Michigan it’s entirely too easy to purchase a rifle.   When I bought my AR I was in and out of the store in 20 mins.  For pistols you must take a written test (all common sense) and register it with your city.  California on the other hand has gone wayyy to far restrictive.
A background check only takes a few minutes. CA has to wait 10 days "cooling off period", even if you already own guns.
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Re: Gun Control - Ghost Guns...
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2018, 06:48:21 PM »
In Ca no lowers are sold without numbers anymore and you have until next month to register your ARs, convert to comply or become a felon. Thanks Jerry Brown!!

Pardon my ignorance on CA gun laws....

Is this only for "AR-15" weapons forged by Satan himself and imbued with magical death dealing abilities that no other firearm possess?

I can be restricted to hell when I want by an "AR" firearm but can I go out and purchase a Ruger Scout Mini 5.56 light rifle without any problems?

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Re: Gun Control - Ghost Guns...
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2018, 10:27:21 AM »
i support "gun control" its the best way to precisely hit your target...

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Re: Gun Control - Ghost Guns...
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2018, 11:58:09 AM »
Pardon my ignorance on CA gun laws....

Is this only for "AR-15" weapons forged by Satan himself and imbued with magical death dealing abilities that no other firearm possess?

I can be restricted to hell when I want by an "AR" firearm but can I go out and purchase a Ruger Scout Mini 5.56 light rifle without any problems?
Any semi auto centerfire with a removable magazine cannot have a vertical grip, adjustable stock or flash hider. You're good to go with the mini14.
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Re: Gun Control - Ghost Guns...
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2018, 12:12:28 PM »
Any semi auto centerfire with a removable magazine cannot have a vertical grip, adjustable stock or flash hider. You're good to go with the mini14.

Wow, magically I bet that Mini14 isn't able to kill any one and only works on targets and feral pigs.

These people are fucking retarded.

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Re: Gun Control - Ghost Guns...
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2018, 12:48:44 PM »
A vertical grip?  lol

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Re: Gun Control - Ghost Guns...
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2018, 03:59:28 PM »
Wow, magically I bet that Mini14 isn't able to kill any one and only works on targets and feral pigs.

These people are fucking retarded.
Can pick that up at Big5, even AR 22's, but no AR 15's.

A vertical grip?  lol
Google Thordsen stock or fin grip to see some CA options. Completely unsafe.
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Re: Gun Control - Ghost Guns...
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2018, 05:32:12 PM »
Some of you GetBiggers might be interested in the "United States Conceiled Carry Authority" website!

I suggest joining up in the event you carry a side-arm and manage to take a shot at the local, nrighboorhood intruder or simply to prevent those friendly Jahova Witness couples  from ringing your doorbell once or twice each week.

Join up and purchase one of the three plans that USCCA offers and you'll be protected if you are feelig threaten and take a shot at the perpatraitor.

A  damn interestng webpage to take a look at.

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Re: Gun Control - Ghost Guns...
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2018, 05:47:50 PM »
A background check only takes a few minutes. CA has to wait 10 days "cooling off period", even if you already own guns.
Here in Texas, I give them my drivers license and CHL. Dude checks, 3-5 minutes later, I can pay for gun and then leave store. 5-10 minutes total.   ;D
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Re: Gun Control - Ghost Guns...
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2018, 06:08:51 PM »
Live Free Or Die applies to gun control, sales tax, income tax and short term cap gain taxes in NH.

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Re: Gun Control - Ghost Guns...
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2018, 07:07:18 PM »
Here in Texas, I give them my drivers license and CHL. Dude checks, 3-5 minutes later, I can pay for gun and then leave store. 5-10 minutes total.   ;D
Yeah, my brother picked up his AK and 1k rounds in 15 minutes.
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Re: Gun Control - Ghost Guns...
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2018, 09:57:14 PM »

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Re: Gun Control - Ghost Guns...
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2018, 10:16:28 PM »
I’m going to rename my AR-15 to MS-13 so it would be protected

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Re: Gun Control - Ghost Guns...
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2018, 11:43:26 PM »
Yet, guns are 100% illegal just south of the border where bad guys now remember the good times, like 2015, when all they did was cut off your head to intimidate rivals.

https://elblogdelnarco.com/2018/03/28/video-impactante-en-donde-sicarios-del-mencho-cjng-descuartizan-vivo-a-un-integrante-de-los-viagras/