In the communist bloc freedom of speech was better than the west

[muscleman-2017]

At least in the communist block, you knew the rules.  Rules said you can't talk about certain things.  You are a servant of the Jews.  Shut up or we kill you.

In America and the west, they tell you you have freedom of speech, so you think you are free, and you express your opinion, and then they DESTROY you.

In communist block their was no delusion and the rulers were more honest.

[The Italian Lifter]

Yeah guess it's because of their great freedom and welfare that we have their daughters selling their pussies by the side of the roads...

[IroNat]

At least in the communist block, you knew the rules.  Rules said you can't talk about certain things.  You are a servant of the Jews.  Shut up or we kill you.

In America and the west, they tell you you have freedom of speech, so you think you are free, and you express your opinion, and then they DESTROY you.

In communist block their was no delusion and the rulers were more honest.

Stalin was really a good guy too.

[muscleman-2017]

Yeah guess it's because of their great freedom and welfare that we have their daughters selling their pussies by the side of the roads...

Do you mean american women?

[muscleman-2017]

Stalin was really a good guy too.

No he was a bad guy. But in eastern bloc, there was no delusion of freedom.

[IroNat]

Communism was an economic failure.

One reason is that it failed to account for human greed, self-interest, and corruption.

Karl Marx was a brilliant fool.

[muscleman-2017]

Communism was an economic failure.

One reason is that it failed to account for human greed, self-interest, and corruption.

Karl Marx was a brilliant fool.

Karl Marx was no fool.  He hated the goyim and he wanted to destroy us.  And he did a brilliant job.

[Griffith]

Karl Marx was no fool.  He hated the goyim and he wanted to destroy us.  And he did a brilliant job.

Oddly enough, in South Africa the Communist Party intellectuals of the ANC were mostly white and Jewish. Most of the 'Freedom Charter' manifesto of the ANC was written by them, by white people.

The current minister of trade and industry is currently a Jew and also a Communist Party member. One of the previous ministers of state security, Ronnie Kasrils was also Jewish and a Communist Party member. Joe Slovo, another top party member was Jewish and was also leader of the Communist Party.

Five of the six whites arrested with Mandela were also Jewish. Mandela was also a Communist Party member till the day he died.

Needless to say, their party is one which aims to eradicate whites and have all land owned by the state as in communist countries.

Today, the ruling party members still call each other Comrade and 'deploys' their 'deployees' and 'cadres' to various state institutions, including sport, in an attempt to 'hegemonise' society and for the 'working-classization' of society and to have full control of all aspects of life.

[IroNat]

South Africa is well on its way to being a complete sh*thole.

White people should leave as soon as possible before they are all killed.

Leave everything and get out while you can.

[el numero uno]

At least in the communist block, you knew the rules.  Rules said you can't talk about certain things.  You are a servant of the Jews.  Shut up or we kill you.

In America and the west, they tell you you have freedom of speech, so you think you are free, and you express your opinion, and then they DESTROY you.

In communist block their was no delusion and the rulers were more honest.

 

[IroNat]

There's no real free speech left in the U.S....the moment you say anything that isn't PC, you lose your job, get smeared online, can't find another job, get blacklisted from TV or Film (see Roseanne). It's an illusion.

Not really.  You're free to say anything but you may hurt your moneymaking opportunities.

People who don't like you don't have to buy from you or employ you.  It's a free country.

[IroNat]

Then explain why that's only been the case for the last 10 years? You used to be able to say anything and it didn't affect your business or public image. Just look at the Archie Bunker character in All in the Family or early episodes of Fresh Prince where the jokes were 90% at the expense of Whites. That would never fly now.

You can get fired just for hugging someone for too long. Or for a tweet questioning how many died in the Holocaust. Or asking people to keep an open mind in a harassment or rape case that's trending in the headlines. That's not a free country. It's feminism turned into terrorism. In the UK you can get arrested and jailed for up to a year just for making a racially insensitive tweet or post on Facebook. It's insane.

Social media I suppose.

You are right about political correctness being nutty.

[Parker]

At least in the communist block, you knew the rules.  Rules said you can't talk about certain things.  You are a servant of the Jews.  Shut up or we kill you.

In America and the west, they tell you you have freedom of speech, so you think you are free, and you express your opinion, and then they DESTROY you.

In communist block their was no delusion and the rulers were more honest.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences.

[muscleman-2017]

Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences.

so same thing?

[Parker]

so same thing?

No. Only a child thinks that there are no consequences for their actions, good or bad. And a child soon learns what those consequences are.
People want to say what they want, yet only positive consequences arise from that. And that is not always the case, nor is it reality.
Look to the NFL "kneeling" fiasco as an example.

[muscleman-2017]

No. Only a child thinks that there are no consequences for their actions, good or bad. And a child soon learns what those consequences are.
People want to say what they want, yet only positive consequences arise from that. And that is not always the case, nor is it reality.
Look to the NFL "kneeling" fiasco as an example.

Yes but you know, same thing, NKVD come for you in America too....

[Parker]

Yes but you know, same thing, NKVD come for you in America too....

No, you have a lot more leeway here. Otherwise, what has been said about Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton (and other presidents) or all the political cartoons, political satire, would not have been allowed.

[Darren Avey]

I say what I want, when I want and how I want and aint no  fucking lefty gonna tell me otherwise.

[IroNat]

Yes but you know, same thing, NKVD come for you in America too....

No, Robert DeNiro is still a free man.

In the old USSR he'd be in a gulag.

[Rusty Trombone]

Absolutely. Western "democracy" is a lie.

[ratherbebig]

how come theres no free speech on getbig?

[HonestBob]

You idiot, OP.

In the Eastern Bloc my parents had to hide what they said in front of me in case I inadvertently gave anything away to my teachers.

Unlike some Communist countries, we even hid from the Church as they were in the pay of the StB.

Moving to the west was the greatest thing that ever happened to us.

Having said that, now I live in Cali and we now have to be careful what we say in front of our kids so I guess I'm the idiot now...

[Al Doggity]

If you go out in the street with a megaphone in Cali and say you want illegals out, you'll be mobbed by a crowd of self-hating whites and racist Mexicans.

  So, "freedom of speech"  now means everyone must love everything you say and no one can disagree?

[Al Doggity]

You guys don't simply disagree. You mob people and shut them down from talking. That's the intolerant left - they stamp out dissent wherever they find it. On the steps of the Supreme Court couple days ago you had pro-Kavanaugh people in a huge libtard crowd and the lefties were getting in their face and shoving them. Same thing we saw in Virginia last summer and at countless anti-gun, anti-male rallies.

Even taking this at face value, none of this proves that free speech is in danger in america. It just proves that a lot of people in this thread don't know what free speech means. There is a ton of dissent and a variety of opinions in the political sphere. Are you saying that a protest is less valid if people aren't nice?  Or that dissent and organized censorship only count at public rallies? Just the other day , the op started a thread about a drag queen show that was being targeted by one of those focus on the family type groups. Then posters in the thread claimed the show was about grooming children to follow the gay agenda, then when that fell apart they settled on the show was just meant to appeal to pedophiles, something that made even less sense. If you google that show, pretty much every hit is from the conservative outrage machine amplifying the calls for boycott. So, here you have organized protests calling for baseless censorsship built around unsubstantiated lies. But somehow the right is more noble when it comes to free speech?

[HonestBob]

Even taking this at face value, none of this proves that free speech is in danger in america. It just proves that a lot of people in this thread don't know what free speech means. There is a ton of dissent and a variety of opinions in the political sphere. Are you saying that a protest is less valid if people aren't nice?  Or that dissent and organized censorship only count at public rallies? Just the other day , the op started a thread about a drag queen show that was being targeted by one of those focus on the family type groups. Then posters in the thread claimed the show was about grooming children to follow the gay agenda, then when that fell apart they settled on the show was just meant to appeal to pedophiles, something that made even less sense. If you google that show, pretty much every hit is from the conservative outrage machine amplifying the calls for boycott. So, here you have organized protests calling for baseless censorsship built around unsubstantiated lies. But somehow the right is more noble when it comes to free speech?

Dude, you're living in a bubble if you think the left aren't opposed to free speech and do everything they can to no-platform anyone they disagree with. When thinkers on the left and right meet to debate I've never seen a single occasion when the left don't resort to insults and fail miserably. I'm generally referring to true leftists here, not liberals. The left is a cancer, they're making people frightened to discuss ideas openly, they police our language to the nth degree and they want to create socialist automaton children with no sense of personal responsibility.

Trump, the most embarrassing leader the US has ever had, is what we've got partly because of this (and Obama's horrific identity politics) and I am concerned where it's all going to end. For many on the left being a racist is seen as being worse than a paedophile, it's horrendous and huge problems are coming.