Arnold Classic Europe 2018 IFBB Elite PRO; Michal Krizanek wins!

[IRON CROSS]

Paul graham is a crook! He doesn’t give a shit about the athletes,he only cares about how much money he can stuff in his pockets,Aussie bbing can’t get rid of him down here cause we have no say,he keeps getting elected by other Ifbb officials ....every AUSTRALIAN bber hates Paul graham

Absolute RUBBISH, if you dislike Aussie IFBB simply go to WFF-Nabba Au or Inba Au.

Tony is Paul's apprentice .

Without promoters like Paul,Rocco & Tony Aussie BB would hardly exist.

[stuntmovie]

NEPTUNO, Once again your raise a good number  of items that are worth discussing, but please give me some time to digest it all before I make an attempt at responding.

And IRON, Thanks for your comment in defense of Paul Graham.

And Tony's involvement within the IFBB Pro Elite organization.

As can be seen on a bodybuilding board such as this ... any individual within a position of authority over all things pertaining to the lifting of heavy stuff ..... becomes a target for those who appear to have never been involved  within the crazy world of lifting heavy stuff.

Nor  have they ever met that target before taking their best shot!

[stuntmovie]

And to add to the confusion regarding the verious organizations useing the "INTERNATIONAL FEDERATION OF BODYBUILDERS (IFBB)"  nomenclature as a part of thei ndividual organization's names ... We have a relatively new one ....

'IFBB Physique America' under the direction of CEO Wayne S. DeMilia

I assume that Wayne is in full support of Dr. Rafael S. IFBB Pro Elite organization but I wonder why  this new US organization isn't named "IFBB AMATEUR ELITE PHYSIQUE AMERICA" to show its affiliation.

And will this new organization only promote male and female physique events.

So now we have:

1. The IFBB Pro League organization - Jim's
2. The IFBB Pro Elite organization - Rafael's
3. The IFBB Physique America which I assume is the US part of the IFBB Pro Elite organization. -  Wayne & Rafael's

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

In spanish Amateur Federation is mandatory 3 years ago...

Posedown in Arnold Classic Europe

picture looks like a circle jerk....lol

[Neptuno]

1. The IFBB Pro League organization
2. The IFBB Pro Elite organization
3. The IFBB Physique America which I assume is the US part of the IFBB Pro Elite organization.

Number 3   BINGO!!!  And of course itīs not only for physique division, really all of them (itīs only the word physique in the tittle). But itīs not under IFBB elite PRO is under IFBB Amateur International. The only place in the world that continue speaking of 2 IFBB in Amateur is USA...

[Neptuno]

Krizanek and Arnold...  

[mphgrove]

Krizanek and Arnold...  

Schmoetastic as we say. Rafael has good positioning as short as he is.

[IRON CROSS]

And to add to the confusion regarding the verious organizations useing the "INTERNATIONAL FEDERATION OF BODYBUILDERS (IFBB)"  nomenclature as a part of theindividual organization's names ... We have a relativelt new one ....

IFBB Physique America under the direction of CEO Wayne S. DeMilia

I assume that Wayne is in full support of Dr. Rafael S. IFBB Pro Elite organization but I wonder why
this new US organization isn't named "IFBB AMATEUR ELITE PHYSIQUE AMERICA" to show its affiliation.

And will this new organization only promote male and female physique events.

So now we have:

1. The IFBB Pro League organization
2. The IFBB Pro Elite organization
3. The IFBB Physique America which I assume is the US part of the IFBB Pro Elite organization.

- IFBB International Federation of Body Building : R.Lurie  

- IFBB International Federation of Body Builders : J.Weider  

- Mr.Universe title is not World Champion title


Why not contacting IFBB's for explanation.

[Neptuno]

[Taffin]

he is blessed with a small and narrow head from many years of skipping head day

aka 'The Golias Effect' 

[stuntmovie]

Here's a serious recommendation which would be of great advantage for the IFBB Pro League organization which promotes the Olympia.

I suggest that the IFBB Pro League organization give some consideration to a policy of offering one or more INVITATIONS to worthy pros who have excelled within outside/competing organizations .... such as an invite for Krizanek who is a member of IFBB Pro Elite to compete witnin the IFBB Pro League Olympia.

 I think Krizanek would do damn well BTW.

Since Arnold is 'allowed' to work within both IFBB organizations ... it would seem to be fair to allow  outside contenders to compete within the Olympia if INVITED by the IFBB Pro League to do so.

It might also discourage the IFBB Pro Elite governing body from doing so by sanctioning and promoting such an event.

Or simply prevent  a new, but yet to be organized, IFBB type organization from getting organized to promote such an event in which the best of the best from each competing organization (IFBB Pro League, IFBB Pro Elite, WFBB, Muscle Mania, NAACP, 2 Bros, etc,) would compete to actually determine the world-wide overall winner regardless of the organization to which he or she is a part of.

Wayne Demillia might have 'thunk' this ealier .... but apparently NOT!

Did he fail to think "outside the box" by joining forces with the IFBB Pro Elite organization!?

[stuntmovie]

NEPTUNO, You said "The IFBB Physique America is not under IFBB elite PRO is under IFBB Amateur International

Then who 'controls' the IFBB Amateur International?

Confusion reigns!

[Neptuno]

Easy: IFBB Physique America is the amateur part of IFBB International (Amateur also) in USA.

The former federation in USA was NPC under IFBB International. So itīs a change.

IFBB Elite PRO is the Professional part of IFBB International. Itīs a separated body. 1 year ago it was Pro League.

IFBB International president is Rafael Santonja, in IFBB Elite PRO too.

[stuntmovie]

Since there seems to be little intetest in this unofficial IFBB HISTORY
lesson, I'll wrap it up with the following:

Towards the conclusion of his life-line, Joe sold his publishing company to Mr. Pecker for a reported figure of $300,000,000 (US) which I ASSUME also included the right to control and sanction the OLYMPA.

There is somewhat of a mystery which came about after Joe's demise which no one seems to know enough about to describe accurately on or off the internet.

That  'mystery' seems to be .... Did Joe have a will which mentioned the transfer of the IFBB to a successor?

Or was it transferred to Mr. Pecker in that $300,000,000 transaction?

What was Joe's intent regarding both Mr. Manion and Dr, Santonja?

Regardless .... When Joe Weider passed away ... it seems that most everything changed and arguments ensuded concerning who should sit on the official Olympia judging panel.

A legal battle seemed/seems to be underway between what is now the IFBB Pro League and what is now the IFBB Pro Elite organization.

But in the USA, Jim Manion assumed control and the IFBB (as well as the NPC) under his direction with the help of many others  grew beyond anyone's expectations .... mainly due to the fact that more IFBB Pro cards were being offered.

As far as I'm concerned ... that was a very wise and profitable decision

If they make BIGGER II .... this could be an nteresting plot-line which remains a mystery.

The end! Thanks for reading!

[IRON CROSS]

BB #.1 title should be 'World Champion' (pro & am) not Mr.O !.

[Neptuno]

BB #.1 title should be 'World Champion' (pro & am) not Mr.O !.

In fact this is the number 1 Tittle in IFBB Elite PRO. This way people outside bodybuilding, identify better who is the best.

[IRON CROSS]

In fact this is the number 1 Tittle in IFBB Elite PRO. This way people outside bodybuilding, identify better who is the best.

Ifbb Elite existed in Australia 4 about 2-3 years !?.