UFC 232

[pellius]

not all of them, most of them.
as for dc, well the dude is almost 40. surely thats a factor when he's facing jones who is nearly 10 years younger.

Didn't seem to be a factor when DC beat everybody else.

there's no secret that some divisions are worse than others, LWH being one of them.

Fall back excuse when one person dominates a division.

i dont think neither his talent or skill is unmatched. there's plenty of talent and skill in many other weight classes and in many fighters. how is jones elbows or kicks to the knees  any bigger skill than rose namajunas flying armbar? but let's for a minute say he's unmatched, maybe thats one of the reasons that make him boring to watch? his most entertaining fight was against gustafsson the first time, and the reason being that he WAS NOT unmatched. where's the entertainment in watching somebody you know's gonna win before hand?

It's pointless to compare different weight classes. Effortlessly choking out Machida or taking DC repeated when he has never been taken down in his entire professional career beats any arm Rose does to another woman.

And as far a watching someone slaughter another person as entertaining. That's subjective. Most people like that. That's what Tyson so popular in his prime. He just destroyed his opponents.

And I much rather trust the assessments by the experts, both actual fighters and those that make their living in this sport, than yours who have never been anywhere near an Octagon or BJJ mat.

Hopefully, with time, as you continue to watch these events, your perspective will mature and you will be able to see the subtleties in MMA. It's similar to bbing. When I first saw PI they all looked the same to me. Just guys with huge muscles and I couldn't tell who was better than the other. As I became more sophisticated over the years I then could see the difference between an Arnold and a Lou and why Arnold was so much better than everybody else. 

[ratherbebig]

Didn't seem to be a factor when DC beat everybody else.

how will jones do when he turns 40? guess we'll found out, apparantely age isnt a factor... and i assume neither is steroids. imagine that, two fighters, one of them being almost a decade older, and the younger fighter is the one who juices...

Fall back excuse when one person dominates a division.

theres 3 fighters on the pound for pound list, all from the same division. there's only one from the LHW division. that should tell you something.

It's pointless to compare different weight classes. Effortlessly choking out Machida or taking DC repeated when he has never been taken down in his entire professional career beats any arm Rose does to another woman.

that was just an example, surely you must know that there's a ton of fighters who submitted or taken down people who previously havent been submitted, or been taken down, other than jones?

And as far a watching someone slaughter another person as entertaining. That's subjective. Most people like that. That's what Tyson so popular in his prime. He just destroyed his opponents.

and yet most fights considered the best are the ones that been close, not onesided. like tj dillashaw - coby. like jones-gustafson, you know fights that are actually A FIGHT.  otherwise, we can all agree on that ronda rousey was the most entertaining because how far ahead of the pack she was at one time, dominating her opponents, but was she, really that entertaining to watch?

[AbrahamG]

No he really is about 6 feet.  I used to see him the barbershop often in Vegas. I used to post about it occasionally. He has a ginormous COCK.

What kind of barbershop is this Wiggs?

[SOMEPARTS]

What kind of barbershop is this Wiggs?

 

[Dave D]

not only boring but over rated... its easy to look good depending on who you fight.

against bonner... 3 round decision win, bonner went on and lost 2 in a row aftwards, shows you how good he was at the time  
against jake o brian... jake was thrown out of ufc afterwards, thats telling me he wasnt at the top of his game otherwise ufc wouldve kept him.
against brandon vera... who afterwards had 1 no contest, 1 win, 2 losses and was thrown out of the ufc...
against vladimir... 2 minute fight, cant remember
against ryan bader... bader was boring as hell to watch at this time, slightly less boring now.
against shogun, shogun was losing every other fight at this time, way past his prime...
against rampage... no comment. rampage hasnt been good for a decade
against machida...  machida had 2 outta 3 losses leading up to jones... closing in at 3 losses in 4 fights in the year 2010-2011... thats a close to get cut record...
against rashad... good matchup i suppose but i cant imagine 3 round decision being that entertaining between these two.
against senior citizen belfort... ok fight i suppose
against senior citizen chael sonnen... hardly fun to watch.
against alex gustafson... finally a fight worth watching! and he almost lost.
against senior citizen glover... couldnt finish him in 5 rounds
against senior citizen dc... ok fight
against OSP... boring.
against senior citizen dc again...
against alex again...

yeah greatest of all time and all of that... and what a bunch of ENTERTAINING fights!  

LOL this is hilarious.

Who's he fought, everyone and they all suck.

Well done.

[pellius]

how will jones do when he turns 40? guess we'll found out, apparantely age isnt a factor... and i assume neither is steroids. imagine that, two fighters, one of them being almost a decade older, and the younger fighter is the one who juices...

theres 3 fighters on the pound for pound list, all from the same division. there's only one from the LHW division. that should tell you something.



that was just an example, surely you must know that there's a ton of fighters who submitted or taken down people who previously havent been submitted, or been taken down, other than jones?

and yet most fights considered the best are the ones that been close, not onesided. like tj dillashaw - coby. like jones-gustafson, you know fights that are actually A FIGHT.  otherwise, we can all agree on that ronda rousey was the most entertaining because how far ahead of the pack she was at one time, dominating her opponents, but was she, really that entertaining to watch?

Why don't you get a job at the UFC since you are so much more knowledgeable than everybody else? The actual fighters, trainers, coaches, writers, and commentators all who freely admit that Jones is on a level never seen before.

Oh, I know. They all suck too.

[ratherbebig]

Why don't you get a job at the UFC since you are so much more knowledgeable than everybody else? The actual fighters, trainers, coaches, writers, and commentators all who freely admit that Jones is on a level never seen before.

Oh, I know. They all suck too.

i dont have to since they agree with me, the top 15 fights in ufc history has jones-gustafson on #7 (and that happens to be, as ive said before, an actual fight and thus exciting to watch)

or why dont we take a look at 'fight of the night'


nate diaz 8 times.
joe lauzon 7 times.
frankie edgar 7 times.
diego sanchez 7 times.
chris lytle 6 times.
clay guida 6 times.
jim miller 6 times.
barboza 6 times.
sam stout 6 times.
jeremy stephens 5 times.
dustin poirier 5 times.
carlos condit 5 times.
wanderlei silva 5 times.
cub swanson 5 times.
michael bisping 5 times.
jon jones 4 times. (along with anderson silva, tony ferguson, shogun, gsp, hendo, romero, tavares, whittaker)

how about performance of the night? that should tell us something about how exciting a fighter is to watch.

"The Performance of the Night bonuses are awarded to the athletes who put on the best and most exciting individual performances."

jones only been awarded that one time, which makes him #24 on that list.

if we look at fighters with most awards (combining fight of the night, ko of the night, sub of the night and performance of the night

jones is #18 on that list.

so by looking at the facts and the stats, your precious jon jones isnt doing so well.

[chaos]

Again, the refs deem the eye pokes unintentional. Coke? I don't care. PEDs, passed a polygraph. Furthermore, the amount metabolites found in his system, laughable. Dude has been winning since the day he stepped foot in UFC and making legends look ordinary. Whose as did he kick that hurt your feelings? Lol

Settle down Wigglet, I enjoy watching Jones fight and think he's a great fighter, but there will always be a stain on his reputation for being a drug addicted steroid abuser.

[pellius]

i dont have to since they agree with me, the top 15 fights in ufc history has jones-gustafson on #7 (and that happens to be, as ive said before, an actual fight and thus exciting to watch)

or why dont we take a look at 'fight of the night'


nate diaz 8 times.
joe lauzon 7 times.
frankie edgar 7 times.
diego sanchez 7 times.
chris lytle 6 times.
clay guida 6 times.
jim miller 6 times.
barboza 6 times.
sam stout 6 times.
jeremy stephens 5 times.
dustin poirier 5 times.
carlos condit 5 times.
wanderlei silva 5 times.
cub swanson 5 times.
michael bisping 5 times.
jon jones 4 times. (along with anderson silva, tony ferguson, shogun, gsp, hendo, romero, tavares, whittaker)

how about performance of the night? that should tell us something about how exciting a fighter is to watch.

"The Performance of the Night bonuses are awarded to the athletes who put on the best and most exciting individual performances."

jones only been awarded that one time, which makes him #24 on that list.

if we look at fighters with most awards (combining fight of the night, ko of the night, sub of the night and performance of the night

jones is #18 on that list.

so by looking at the facts and the stats, your precious jon jones isnt doing so well.

What? You are talking about two different things. Exciting fights and "exciting" fighters is not the same as skilled fighters. And fights of the night is dependant on the other fights which may have been boring. So Joe Lauzon and Sam Stout had more "fight of the night" awards than Jones. That says nothing about skill level.

Damn, you are really reaching now. The experts don't agree with you. They state plainly that Jones is the GOAT. They didn't comment on his entertainment value or exciting fights, though ticket sales and having the UFC bend over backwards determine that.

[ratherbebig]

What? You are talking about two different things. Exciting fights and "exciting" fighters is not the same as skilled fighters. And fights of the night is dependant on the other fights which may have been boring. So Joe Lauzon and Sam Stout had more "fight of the night" awards than Jones. That says nothing about skill level.

Damn, you are really reaching now. The experts don't agree with you. They state plainly that Jones is the GOAT. They didn't comment on his entertainment value or exciting fights, though ticket sales and having the UFC bend over backwards determine that.

never said he wasnt skilled, why dont you look up my first post i said i find him BORING

[Wiggs]

What kind of barbershop is this Wiggs?

Hair Unlimited On MLK and Bonanza.  Owned by Mac. I've gone there since I was a 7. I've seen Mike and spoken with Mike on several occasions. Full blown conversations. He's been coming there for several decades. It's one of his places of solitude. 

[chaos]

Hair Unlimited On MLK and Bonanza.  Owned by Mac. I've gone there since I was a 7. I've seen Mike and spoken with Mike on several occasions. Full blown conversations. He's been coming there for several decades. It's one of his places of solitude. 

After years of going there, they turned you into a 4.

[Wiggs]

After years of going there, they turned you into a 4.

Damn it, you guys don't miss a thing. Lol

[Bevo]

Hair Unlimited On MLK and Bonanza.  Owned by Mac. I've gone there since I was a 7. I've seen Mike and spoken with Mike on several occasions. Full blown conversations. He's been coming there for several decades. It's one of his places of solitude. 

You ever see mayweather?

[Wiggs]

You ever see mayweather?

No, he's family though. Not that that's something to brag about outside of his boxing record. I'll leave it at that.

[ratherbebig]

everyone is family in the black community.

yeah im going to a funeral.. its my cousins cousins cousins cousin etc etc

[Kwon]

No, he's family though. Not that that's something to brag about outside of his boxing record. I'll leave it at that.

Are you related to the Mayweathers?

[Wiggs]

Are you related to the Mayweathers?

I said they were family Kwon. So yes. But I'm leaving it at that.

[ratherbebig]

related as in all people originate from africa

[Wiggs]

related as in all people originate from africa

Related as in cousin. I've said this before. But the dude hits women, exploits women, and everything else we know about him. I'm try to live a righteous lifestyle so what's so good about what he does to me? NOTHING. Furthermore, I don't need him if I want to make a name for myself. Great boxer though. One of the greats.

[Humble Narcissist]

Related as in cousin. I've said this before. But the dude hits women, exploits women, and everything else we know about him. I'm try to live a righteous lifestyle so what's so good about what he does to me? NOTHING. Furthermore, I don't need him if I want to make a name for myself. Great boxer though. One of the greats.

You should get him to join Getbig.  Half the people on here would troll the hell out of him but I'm sure he would give it right back.

[illuminati]

Related as in cousin. I've said this before. But the dude hits women, exploits women, and everything else we know about him. I'm try to live a righteous lifestyle so what's so good about what he does to me? NOTHING. Furthermore, I don't need him if I want to make a name for myself. Great boxer though. One of the greats.

I don’t always agree with you wiggs

Only good on you for having some morals & Principles
Respect.

He maybe a good boxer
He’s Not a Good Person.

[ratherbebig]

he does a lot for the car salesman

[JustPlaneJane]

Related as in cousin. I've said this before. But the dude hits women, exploits women, and everything else we know about him. I'm try to live a righteous lifestyle so what's so good about what he does to me? NOTHING. Furthermore, I don't need him if I want to make a name for myself. Great boxer though. One of the greats.

Chronic liars don’t live “righteous lifestyles”.

[Wiggs]

Chronic liars don’t live “righteous lifestyles”.

Can one of my fine Caucasian brethren come get Methany, she got out of her cage again. Thanks in advance.