So Dorian, how many sets per exercise?

[pellius]

True it's a subjective sport. Judging by that picture I put up in the previous post I don't know how anyone can look at that and say Dickerson wasn't better.

In the end it's subculture of a sport based on drugs. No drugs and there would be no sport. One thing for sure Dickerson competed at a high level for decades. He even won the Mr. America back in the day when they had to prove they were athletes by putting up a total with the snatch, clean and press, and the clean and jerk for needed athletic points. Think any Olympia contestant now could power clean and jerk 315lbs? I would wager none could.

I feel the same way except I don't know how anyone can look at that and say Mentzer wasn't better. Just going body part by body part. Better everything. Those droopy pecs and skinny arms on Chris ruins everything.

[Humble Narcissist]

If Mentzer wouldn't have gone crazy after the 1980 Mr. Olympia he probably would have won in 81 and 82.  If Ferrigno didn't retire after the 75 Olympia he might have won 10 Olympias.  A lot of the success is from showing up.

[pellius]

I think a lot of hate comes Dickerson's way because he is gay.  How many of these hero's from the Gold's days that had no job to go to but had a car, apartment and money to live? I wonder what they did for cash?  Weider only gave contracts to less than a handful and it was a joke amount. Very few had actual jobs.

I don't think so at all. Bob Paris was gay and is roundly praised on this board. I'm sure if Chris was straight then the Black card would be pulled. I am far from alone in considering him undeserving of an Olympia title.

And in those days, most never expected to make a living winning bodybuilding shows. Zane was a teacher, Roger was in the Royal Marines, Mentzer was at the height of his earning powers as a writer, and Boyer was involved in various things during his bbing career: worked for Jones, owned a health food store and a gym.

I think in those days GFP wasn't as prevalent then as it is now as it was a different time and that generation had a different work ethic. It was just accepted that you had to get a job and support yourself. Today, people from all aspects of life are trying to figure out how to get money without having to work.

[pellius]

If Mentzer wouldn't have gone crazy after the 1980 Mr. Olympia he probably would have won in 81 and 82.  If Ferrigno didn't retire after the 75 Olympia he might have won 10 Olympias.  A lot of the success is from showing up.

Agreed with both. Especially Ferrigno. Because he is so disliked personally I think he is often overlooked at how great a bber he was. He was only around 23 years old in PI. He had a lot of room and years to improve and if he did that, which I am certain he would have, no way Franco, Zane, Dickerson and Samir could have beat him. I think he would even have beaten Haney as well but that can be fiercely debated.

[Humble Narcissist]

I don't think so at all. Bob Paris was gay and is roundly praised on this board. I'm sure if Chris was straight then the Black card would be pulled. I am far from alone in considering him undeserving of an Olympia title.

And in those days, most never expected to make a living winning bodybuilding shows. Zane was a teacher, Roger was in the Royal Marines, Mentzer was at the height of his earning powers as a writer, and Boyer was involved in various things during his bbing career: worked for Jones, owned a health food store and a gym.

I think in those days GFP wasn't as prevalent then as it is now as it was a different time and that generation had a different work ethic. It was just accepted that you had to get a job and support yourself. Today, people from all aspects of life are trying to figure out how to get money without having to work.

Many if not most here (myself included) believe Dickerson was the worst Olympia winner ever.  Walker is never mentioned in the 80 Olympia and if anyone was screwed over it was him.  He looked awesome in the photos although he was probably holding a little water and I've never him posing.

[illuminati]

If Mentzer wouldn't have gone crazy after the 1980 Mr. Olympia he probably would have won in 81 and 82.  If Ferrigno didn't retire after the 75 Olympia he might have won 10 Olympias.  A lot of the success is from showing up.

Your more than likely correct with them assumptions
Mentzer’s Breakdown only hurt himself & Blaming Arnold
Was rather stupid He should of blamed the judges if any body.

Louie probably would’ve won a couple of Olympia’s had he not
Had such a long Time away from competition.

[illuminati]

Agreed with both. Especially Ferrigno. Because he is so disliked personally I think he is often overlooked at how great a bber he was. He was only around 23 years old in PI. He had a lot of room and years to improve and if he did that, which I am certain he would have, no way Franco, Zane, Dickerson and Samir could have beat him. I think he would even have beaten Haney as well but that can be fiercely debated.

Not so sure Louie would’ve beaten Samir at His Best
Samir with his shape & lines + Condition looked great.
Very different physiques.

[Humble Narcissist]

Not so sure Louie would’ve beaten Samir at His Best
Samir with his shape & lines + Condition looked great.
Very different physiques.

Samir was awesome and I think had the perfect physique but if Louie had won 7 Olympias in a row would they have given him the nod?  No way Arnold comes back in 80 and no way Zane, Dickerson or Franko win Olympias if Louie never retired.  He could have continued shooting the Hulk while getting in contest shape plus it would have brought more attention to the IFBB if a current actor was the Mr. Olympia.

[illuminati]

Samir was awesome and I think had the perfect physique but if Louie had won 7 Olympias in a row would they have given him the nod?  No way Arnold comes back in 80 and no way Zane, Dickerson or Franko win Olympias if Louie never retired.  He could have continued shooting the Hulk while getting in contest shape plus it would have brought more attention to the IFBB if a current actor was the Mr. Olympia.

Yes very likely if Louie had been on a winning streak
Knowing how much the Olympia judges like winning streaks
That It would’ve been tough for Samir to beat him.
As big & good as Louie could’ve been - Personally I think Samir
Had a Better Physique at his Best.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Yes very likely if Louie had been on a winning streak
Knowing how much the Olympia judges like winning streaks
That It would’ve been tough for Samir to beat him.
As big & good as Louie could’ve been - Personally I think Samir
Had a Better Physique at his Best.

Absolutely.

[Desolate]

He stopped the barbell squats because of a back injury.

It was a hip injury. He started with regular barbell squats then he used smith squats. During his best years his main exercises were the leg press and hack.

Correct. It was a hip injury that required surgery.

You can see the scar.

[GymnJuice]

Correct. It was a hip injury that required surgery.

You can see the scar.

Do you have any from a different angle?  Getbig needs to know if he is circumcised.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Correct. It was a hip injury that required surgery.

You can see the scar.

[Desolate]

Do you have any from a different angle?  Getbig needs to know if he is circumcised.

A British guy in his 50s...

My guess is that he is not.

[Thin Lizzy]

It comes down to your definition of a “real” set.

Let’s say you did a pyramid routine: 15/12/10/8/6 you could say that the only “real” set is the 6.

[honest]

I think a lot of hate comes Dickerson's way because he is gay.  How many of these hero's from the Gold's days that had no job to go to but had a car, apartment and money to live? I wonder what they did for cash?  Weider only gave contracts to less than a handful and it was a joke amount. Very few had actual jobs.

Bodybuilders and bodybuilding was like surfing back there, no negro and modern hipster egos and flash cars, just a bunch of guys living day by day, training most of the day not knowing where their next chicken breast was coming from personally myself, and its before my time I think this would have been the best time to have been in the scene. Less reliance on income and drugs, meaning the actual contests were contested more on what genetics you had as opposed to the  noun of drugs you can take and afford.

The sport peaked with Yates in 93, but no doubt its best days were twenty to thirty years earlier.

[The Scott]

I think a lot of hate comes Dickerson's way because he is gay.  How many of these hero's from the Gold's days that had no job to go to but had a car, apartment and money to live? I wonder what they did for cash?  Weider only gave contracts to less than a handful and it was a joke amount. Very few had actual jobs.

Hate?  More disgust really.  I have often said it is one thing to be homosexual and another entirely to be a buttslut.  Dickerson was a buttslut.  He also looks like "Curious George" with those EARS, LOL!   

Bob Paris was robbed more than a few times in his bodybuilding career.  Dickerson's physique was not only  out-massed but out classed.  His hideous pointy elbows come immediately to mind and they're attached to a pair of awful arms.  Yeah, he is homosexual and was an out and out buttslut from what we knew back then.  When it was announced he was coming to the gym I was training in I told the staff I wouldn't be there that day as I would only get into trouble for to telling him to fuck off when he made his overture(s).    He made gay porn and I have zero interest and a shit-ton of disgust for anyone that does porn and gay/lesbo porn grosses me out all the more.  Serge Nubret got locked out of the IFBB for a whole lot less than what Dicksuckerson did on film and Serge was with a woman.

More than a few guys from the old Gold's did gay porn or just "hustled" for cash. Typical lazy bodybuilders.  They'd rather get fucked in the ass than get a real job.   

[AbrahamG]

Hate?  More disgust really.  I have often said it is one thing to be homosexual and another entirely to be a buttslut.  Dickerson was a buttslut.  He also looks like "Curious George" with those EARS, LOL!   

Bob Paris was robbed more than a few times in his bodybuilding career.  Dickerson's physique was not only  out-massed but out classed.  His hideous pointy elbows come immediately to mind and they're attached to a pair of awful arms.  Yeah, he is homosexual and was an out and out buttslut from what we knew back then.  When it was announced he was coming to the gym I was training in I told the staff I wouldn't be there that day as I would only get into trouble for to telling him to fuck off when he made his overture(s).    He made gay porn and I have zero interest and a shit-ton of disgust for anyone that does porn and gay/lesbo porn grosses me out all the more.  Serge Nubret got locked out of the IFBB for a whole lot less than what Dicksuckerson did on film and Serge was with a woman.

More than a few guys from the old Gold's did gay porn or just "hustled" for cash. Typical lazy bodybuilders.  They'd rather get fucked in the ass than get a real job.   

Sorry you never made it.

[oldtimer1]

It comes down to your definition of a “real” set.

Let’s say you did a pyramid routine: 15/12/10/8/6 you could say that the only “real” set is the 6.

The real set is the failure set. If your doing sets stopping way short of failure they are warm ups. Dorian would do something like this for inclines. First set: 135lbs for 12, 225 for 8, 315lbs for 6 then 410lbs for 8 reps to failure.

[The Scott]

Sorry you never made it.

You humor is without merit.  It's obtuse.  Look up the definitions and see if you can figure out which one is appropriate in this instance, ace.    Look, kiddo.  You're beneath even my pathetic mental skills.  Run along and bother some DSK if you wish to bolster your pathetic ego.  

[AbrahamG]

You humor is without merit.  It's obtuse.  Look up the definitions and see if you can figure out which one is appropriate in this instance, ace.    Look, kiddo.  You're beneath even my pathetic mental skills.  Run along and bother some DSK if you wish to bolster your pathetic ego.  

Have you tried online dating?

[The Scott]

Have you tried online dating?

You're fapping right now, aren't you?  Pathetic IOL.   

Imitation Of Life.   Manlet.

[oldtimer1]

I feel the same way except I don't know how anyone can look at that and say Mentzer wasn't better. Just going body part by body part. Better everything. Those droopy pecs and skinny arms on Chris ruins everything.

I think that guys that worship at the altar of high intensity attribute too much to Mentzer. He was rightly beaten twice in two separate Mr. Universe contests by Robby and Kalman. Yet talk to any HIT guys and they will argue he was robbed. I hear the same thing about the 1980 Olympia contest. He got 5th and I agree with it. In the end it's a beauty pageant.

[Coach is Back!]

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[tres_taco_combo]

If Mentzer wouldn't have gone crazy after the 1980 Mr. Olympia he probably would have won in 81 and 82.  If Ferrigno didn't retire after the 75 Olympia he might have won 10 Olympias.  A lot of the success is from showing up.

bob said he should have won 84 and 85