Is M.J. officially guilty now?

[cart@@n]

It seems Oprah took their case:

[SOMEPARTS]

Nope. Heard him on the radio today.

[tommywishbone]

America's most loved pervert and rapist for 30 years. 

[kreator]

I can understand why he wanted to be white but i don‘t understand why black people still liked him after that

[Bevo]

I can understand why he wanted to be white but i don‘t understand why black people still liked him after that

Depends on who you siding with, people pick and choose

Look at that gay pervert fashion designer that died Karl Lagerfeld (disgrace of a German btw) he’s been on record saying sexist, racist stuff, all documented yet all these celebs and his supporters cried when he died and he gets a free pass

Now Trump on the other hand gets called every name in the book by the same people supporting that gay pervert

[Henda]

Wish they would accept the dirty horrible bastards guilt and wipe him from history and stop playing his piece of shit songs on the radio

[G_Thang]

Where's the Weinstein coverage?  He is still alive.

[Bevo]

Where's the Weinstein coverage?  He is still alive.

Where have you been? It was all over headlines

first he’s a Jew, second he will get his when can convicted and charged, third Oprah was the one that brought this to light

You want to put it that way MJ and R kelly have been “guilty” for decades, why now are they finally getting their dues??

[Humble Narcissist]

It seems Oprah took their case:

Before you decide watch the video that debunks the story on Youtube.

[TheShape.]

Before you decide watch the video that debunks the story on Youtube.

Post a link

[Humble Narcissist]

Post a link

[ratherbebig]

we will still be rocking those mj songs when posing!!

[SuperTed]

Still think his music will be played but some networks will blacklist him. The Simpsons have dropped the classic episode which featured him.
Dude was clearly a mentally ill pederast and didn't even make much effort to hide it.

[Humble Narcissist]

Still think his music will be played but some networks will blacklist him. The Simpsons have dropped the classic episode which featured him.
Dude was clearly a mentally ill pederast and didn't even make much effort to hide it.

The fact that he didn't try to hide it makes me question if he even did it.  Most pedos are secretive and hide their intentions but Michael told every one he had kids in his bed.  If he was guilty of it I think the parents knew and were getting paid as it was happening as we know of the pedo rings in Hollywood.  They had to know.  Who in the Hell would let their little kids stay over night with a single man in his 30's or any other age?

[hipolito mejia]

Wish they would accept the dirty horrible bastards guilt and wipe him from history and stop playing his piece of shit songs on the radio

" Man in the mirror " too ?

[BB]

Weinstein actually has a pretty good documentary, but it was on PBS's Frontline, so many people probably never saw it -

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You can still watch the whole thing, at least here in the States by searching "Weinstein, Frontline" in Google.

As for the HBO documentary, it's an overly long, overly provocative thing that is poorly done. It provides no counter point, etc.... That being said, as you watch it, it draws up a lot of uncomfortable emotion, so it works well if you want to "cancel" someone. I've watched 100's of documentaries over the years, and the only other that made me as sick and angry in the moment was another pedophilia one, much better done called Chickenhawk (www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhgOt4PFD6U).

I do believe Jackson was a pedophile, I just wish there was a more scholarly work used to out him.

As for if he'll be totally erased from modern culture? I doubt it. He still has huge foreign support, and the black opinion seems to be 80/20 in support of him. Many view this as just another attempt to disrespect a black icon.

[ratherbebig]

the only thing michael jackson is guilty of is composing great bodybuilding pose-friendly music

[SuperTed]

The fact that he didn't try to hide it makes me question if he even did it.  Most pedos are secretive and hide their intentions but Michael told every one he had kids in his bed.  If he was guilty of it I think the parents knew and were getting paid as it was happening as we know of the pedo rings in Hollywood.  They had to know.  Who in the Hell would let their little kids stay over night with a single man in his 30's or any other age?

I don't think Jackson believed he was doing anything wrong. He used a child like persona and a story about reclaiming a lost childhood to justify the sleepovers.
I think the parents were just in awe of Jackson and starstruck. They likely didn't think that a global megastar could be capable of having pedophile inclinations and just felt privileged that he wanted to be around them. The expensive gifts and luxuries he gave distracted them further. Since the boys also seemed to enjoy their time with Jackson and didn't show signs of trauma, the parents may have not suspected anything. They often said that they started viewing Jackson almost as a family member.
They definitely deserve to take much of the blame though, especially when Jackson acted highly inappropriately -

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6774745/Michael-Jackson-accuser-James-Safechucks-father-tells-kiss-son-lips.html      

[illuminati]

I don't think Jackson believed he was doing anything wrong. He used a child like persona and a story about reclaiming a lost childhood to justify the sleepovers.
I think the parents were just in awe of Jackson and starstruck. They likely didn't think that a global megastar could be capable of having pedophile inclinations and just felt privileged that he wanted to be around them. The expensive gifts and luxuries he gave distracted them further. Since the boys also seemed to enjoy their time with Jackson and didn't show signs of trauma, the parents may have not suspected anything. They often said that they started viewing Jackson almost as a family member.
They definitely deserve to take much of the blame though, especially when Jackson acted highly inappropriately -

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6774745/Michael-Jackson-accuser-James-Safechucks-father-tells-kiss-son-lips.html      

I have to Disagree- He definitely Knew what he was doing was wrong.
That crap about a childlike persona is Bollocks - I’d say most men are always children at heart
In one way or another - Only They Don’t want to sleep with very young boys.

I do agree that the parents have a lot to answer for - leaving young children with a grown man
They hardly knew from the get go - Very Strange .
As for the “Seeing Michael as a Family Member” Crap - So They’d Let their sons sleep with
Other older men if they were family   - Yeah Right of course they would.

Jackson was rich & famous with the best lawyers available He thought he could get away with it
Or buy his way out (which he did) The childlike “Persona” Bollocks was just a cover for him.

The man was a complete weirdo & his Fame & $’s allowed him to get away with it Just as others in
Hollyweird & Music Etc with fame & $’s Do.

[kevin25]

Dont seem so  

[a_pupil]

I don't believe those soybois on that documentary with their extra-detailed homo erotic accounts.

Also a lot of stuff on the show has been refuted, plus MJ was never found guilty, despite long fbi investigations.

I used to think he was a pedo but now I feel sorry for him, as he's just an easy target for the media.

[residue]

at this point who even cares, he's dead.

[hardgainerj]

this guy does a rundown not sure how accurate

[mac33]

[SuperTed]

I have to Disagree- He definitely Knew what he was doing was wrong.
That crap about a childlike persona is Bollocks - I’d say most men are always children at heart
In one way or another - Only They Don’t want to sleep with very young boys.

I do agree that the parents have a lot to answer for - leaving young children with a grown man
They hardly knew from the get go - Very Strange .
As for the “Seeing Michael as a Family Member” Crap - So They’d Let their sons sleep with
Other older men if they were family   - Yeah Right of course they would.

Jackson was rich & famous with the best lawyers available He thought he could get away with it
Or buy his way out (which he did) The childlike “Persona” Bollocks was just a cover for him.

The man was a complete weirdo & his Fame & $’s allowed him to get away with it Just as others in
Hollyweird & Music Etc with fame & $’s Do.

Jackson knew what he was doing was illegal and would send him to jail if uncovered, but I think he thought his actions weren't wrong ethically/morally.

The child like persona was definitely an act to make himself appear pure/innocent imo.