Is M.J. officially guilty now?

[TonyAlva]

Michael a gud boy! He din do nuffins!!!

[illuminati]

I don't believe those soybois on that documentary with their extra-detailed homo erotic accounts.

Also a lot of stuff on the show has been refuted, plus MJ was never found guilty, despite long fbi investigations.

I used to think he was a pedo but now I feel sorry for him, as he's just an easy target for the media.

OJ Simpson and many others have been found not Guilty after long investigations.

Feel sorry for Him !! Really - That adds You to My Alert List.

[illuminati]

at this point who even cares, he's dead.

Hmmm - To Start With Probably Those He Abused I’d Say.

[Redux]

I watched the documentary. Jackson is one sick fuck.
Hopefully he's rotting in hell right now.

[G_Thang]

FBI said they found nothing on Jackson after years of investigating. But I'm supposed to believe this out of the blue bullshit.  Fuck Oprah c o o n ass!  

[illuminati]

I watched the documentary. Jackson is one sick fuck.
Hopefully he's rotting in hell right now.

X2
Though watching the documentary didn’t add or change what I thought about him,
His behaviour & actions all through his association with young Boys around was
Always very weird & suspect.

[illuminati]

No Doubt Some on Here Would review the history & accounts of Jimmy Savile’s
Pattern of Behaviour and Not find anything untoward or troubling Either.

I feel for their children with their judgement & leaving them with babysitters.

[a_pupil]

FBI said they found nothing on Jackson after years of investigating. But I'm supposed to believe this out of the blue bullshit.  Fuck Oprah c o o n ass!  

this.

If you look at the evidences with unbiased eyes the guy was innocent. He beat the case in 2003 and the 90s settlement wasn't as black and white as it seemed.

I believed he was a pedo until I actually looked into the stuff myself.

He was just an eccentric genius, who tried being nice to people and it ended up biting him in the ass. A lot of these families that latched onto him and leeched from him were showbiz parent types.

[a_pupil]

No Doubt Some on Here Would review the history & accounts of Jimmy Savile’s
Pattern of Behaviour and Not find anything untoward or troubling Either.

I feel for their children with their judgement & leaving them with babysitters.

Our jimmy had 100s of kids come out with accounts which were verified as possible based on circumstances.

There is no such thing with MJ, just a few leeches trying to make a buck while the vast majority of the kids he was around say nothing bad happened.

[HTexan]

is this movie any good?

[SuperTed]

He was just an eccentric genius, who tried being nice to people and it ended up biting him in the ass. A lot of these families that latched onto him and leeched from him were showbiz parent types.

It wasn't the families who latched onto Jackson, but Jackson latching onto them if they had a prepubescent son that he liked.
Jackson was the one who pursued “friendships” with the young boys. He spent most his entire adult life forming strange obsessive relationships with young boys which would eventually result with them sleeping over in his bed for months on end. Jackson would continue this behaviour and put himself in this situation even after being accused of molestation.

We don’t even know the full number of potential victims that might exist since it’s possible that Jackson paid off many families before any allegations went public. What we do know is that those who have accused Jackson of abuse all had very strong relations with him. They all knew him well and spent long periods of time alone with him. Their accusations have to be taken seriously regardless of what may or may not have happened.   

[Army of One]

It wasn't the families who latched onto Jackson, but Jackson latching onto them if they had a prepubescent son that he liked.
Jackson was the one who pursued “friendships” with the young boys. He spent most his entire adult life forming strange obsessive relationships with young boys which would eventually result with them sleeping over in his bed for months on end. Jackson would continue this behaviour and put himself in this situation even after being accused of molestation.

We don’t even know the full number of potential victims that might exist since it’s possible that Jackson paid off many families before any allegations went public. What we do know is that those who have accused Jackson of abuse all had very strong relations with him. They all knew him well and spent long periods of time alone with him. Their accusations have to be taken seriously regardless of what may or may not have happened.  

And it was always 7-13yr old BOYS, and the second they displayed outward signs of puberty he dropped them like a hot potato.People seriously arguing he was setup, innocent etc have to be the most gullible people on earth.If a 40yr old single guy down the street only hung around 7-13yr old boys, sent them faxes saying he loved them, had a garden full of kids toys, house full of toys, sleepovers with 10yr old boys, allegations of abuse etc etc, youd all know what the deal was.This whole thing with jackos defenders should be exhibit A in a study of media brainwashing over many years.People dont want to face they got duped.

[mac33]

[Palumboism]

Weinstein actually has a pretty good documentary, but it was on PBS's Frontline, so many people probably never saw it -

.

You can still watch the whole thing, at least here in the States by searching "Weinstein, Frontline" in Google.

As for the HBO documentary, it's an overly long, overly provocative thing that is poorly done. It provides no counter point, etc.... That being said, as you watch it, it draws up a lot of uncomfortable emotion, so it works well if you want to "cancel" someone. I've watched 100's of documentaries over the years, and the only other that made me as sick and angry in the moment was another pedophilia one, much better done called Chickenhawk (www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhgOt4PFD6U).

I do believe Jackson was a pedophile, I just wish there was a more scholarly work used to out him.

As for if he'll be totally erased from modern culture? I doubt it. He still has huge foreign support, and the black opinion seems to be 80/20 in support of him. Many view this as just another attempt to disrespect a black icon.

I agree with you on the Weinstein Frontline.

[Humble Narcissist]

Maybe the weirdest part of Jackson was the fact that both ex wives said they never had sex with him.  Any straight guy on Earth would nail a young Lisa Marie Presley!

I still think that a possibility that is being overlooked is that the parents were in on the pedo ring for money all along.  There is no way a sane parent would allow their kids to spend time alone with a weirdo like that.

There are still too many questions.  Why are there 2 guys now claiming they were molested after they testified in court and did numerous FBI interviews that nothing sexual happened?  Why would someone like Corey Feldman who spent so much time with Jackson claimed nothing happened even though he admits to being molested by others and probably raped by Charlie Sheen?  Why would he protect Jackson?  Would Jackson skip over him and just molest other kids?

The fact that these two guys have been shopping book deals and trying to get money from the Jackson estate before it all dries up makes them look shady.

[a_pupil]

Maybe the weirdest part of Jackson was the fact that both ex wives said they never had sex with him.  Any straight guy on Earth would nail a young Lisa Marie Presley!

I still think that a possibility that is being overlooked is that the parents were in on the pedo ring for money all along.  There is no way a sane parent would allow their kids to spend time alone with a weirdo like that.

There are still too many questions.  Why are there 2 guys now claiming they were molested after they testified in court and did numerous FBI interviews that nothing sexual happened?  Why would someone like Corey Feldman who spent so much time with Jackson claimed nothing happened even though he admits to being molested by others and probably raped by Charlie Sheen?  Why would he protect Jackson?  Would Jackson skip over him and just molest other kids?

The fact that these two guys have been shopping book deals and trying to get money from the Jackson estate before it all dries up makes them look shady.

I would never trust a man with my kids, especially jacko lol. he was a strange guy, but the accusations from these guys are BS.

Especially the main one from the documentary, he realised he failed at life, and it was either this avenue or the suicide pill (unless he was willing to downgrade from the hollyweird lifestyle and work a 9-5).

[a_pupil]

It wasn't the families who latched onto Jackson, but Jackson latching onto them if they had a prepubescent son that he liked.
Jackson was the one who pursued “friendships” with the young boys. He spent most his entire adult life forming strange obsessive relationships with young boys which would eventually result with them sleeping over in his bed for months on end. Jackson would continue this behaviour and put himself in this situation even after being accused of molestation.

We don’t even know the full number of potential victims that might exist since it’s possible that Jackson paid off many families before any allegations went public. What we do know is that those who have accused Jackson of abuse all had very strong relations with him. They all knew him well and spent long periods of time alone with him. Their accusations have to be taken seriously regardless of what may or may not have happened.   

in the documentary I think one family actively pursued him from australia and the other was the typical child performer family.

a responsible family would have told him to fuck off.

[Henda]

" Man in the mirror " too ?

Yes, even if he wasn’t a filthy pedo his songs still absolutely suck balls, those stupid nonsense noises he makes are annoying and he deserves choked and punched repeatedly for them. Can’t stand the sound or sight of him

[Humble Narcissist]

Yes, even if he wasn’t a filthy pedo his songs still absolutely suck balls, those stupid nonsense noises he makes are annoying and he deserves choked and punched repeatedly for them. Can’t stand the sound or sight of him

I never understood why they called him a musical genius.  He didn't write most of his lyrics and none of the music.  I am no Prince (another fruity guy) fan but he was world's ahead of Jackson in musical talent.  How hard is it to read sheet music?

[Humble Narcissist]

I would never trust a man with my kids, especially jacko lol. he was a strange guy, but the accusations from these guys are BS.

Especially the main one from the documentary, he realised he failed at life, and it was either this avenue or the suicide pill (unless he was willing to downgrade from the hollyweird lifestyle and work a 9-5).

It must truly suck to have success in Hollywood as a child and realize as an adult that you will never be big again and your best days are behind you.  No parent should ever let their kid into the music industry or Hollywood until they are an adult.  Being a child star for most is a fate worse than death.

[Pet shop boys]

is this movie any good?

Is a 4 hours two episodes documentary ...should have been 4 episodes of an hour each ....

On the second episode the kid that turned to a professional dancer , says that when he turned 14 was like already 5'11" tall  ...so Michael Jackson was about his height and told him "ok you're man enough to take it in the butt"

they tried and tried  but MJ couldn't get it in cause it was way too painful"   (that part of the episode reminded me most of the Getbbigers that post 24/7 here )

Btw, The song "there was blood on the dance floor"  should have been called " there was blood on the underwear " as it turned out to be .

Ok you can say that the victims in the Bill Cosby case came out later in life him pushing 80 years of age ...

but in this particular case something tells me that if MJ was alive none of this victims would've have agreed to do this Documentary .


"Not everything is true ,not everything is a lie "



WooSSHHHHHHHHHHHH  AMY ..........are you ok ?

[Humble Narcissist]

Is the person who said he was raped by Jackson gay now?

[Pet shop boys]

It must truly suck to have success in Hollywood as a child and realize as an adult that you will never be big again and your best days are behind you.  No parent should ever let their kid into the music industry or Hollywood until they are an adult.  Being a child star for most is a fate worse than death.

I think MJ himself was seriously abused when he was a kid one way or the other .... He was a Gehovan's witness since early age,  and was a virgin up until he's late 20's  early 30's ! think about it ;  no alcohol, drugs, soda or pussy (or dick)  already the biggest star in the world having the likes of Princess Dianna  and Ronald Reagan inviting you over .




WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Army of One]

Is a 4 hours two episodes documentary ...should have been 4 episodes of an hour each ....

On the second episode the kid that turned to a professional dancer , says that when he turned 14 was like already 5'11" tall  ...so Michael Jackson was about his height and told him "ok you're man enough to take it in the butt"

they tried and tried  but MJ couldn't get it in cause it was way too painful"   (that part of the episode reminded me most of the Getbbigers that post 24/7 here )

Btw, The song "there was blood on the dance floor"  should have been called " there was blood on the underwear " as it turned out to be .

Ok you can say that the victims in the Bill Cosby case came out later in life him pushing 80 years of age ...

but in this particular case something tells me that if MJ was alive none of this victims would've have agreed to do this Documentary .


"Not everything is true ,not everything is a lie "



WooSSHHHHHHHHHHHH  AMY ..........are you ok ?

Gets weirder to me with that.At 14 you know if you are gay/bisexual or not, and if you want it or not.

[Pet shop boys]

Is the person who said he was raped by Jackson gay now?

That was my question too ....  but both "raped vivtims"  are straight,  married with kids and never again were involved gay activities besides MJ

unless they mentioned otherwise at some point (I fell asleep for about 4 mins )

WooSHHHHHHHHHH  AMY are you ok ?