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Re: Is M.J. officially guilty now?
« Reply #75 on: March 14, 2019, 07:58:15 AM »

 I've watched 100's of documentaries over the years, and the only other that made me as sick and angry in the moment was another pedophilia one, much better done called Chickenhawk (www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhgOt4PFD6U).


Wonder if -given the way it was able to operate freely- NAMBLA was some sort of FBI front.

………..


There was a good, balanced doc ,touching on this topic,first shown on the BBC in 2009, about the American scientist Carleton Gajdusek,a man who was a unique combination of outstanding medical researcher and intrepid anthropologist.


Carleton won the 1976 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for his work on the discovery of the mechanism of the transmission of the lethal brain disease Kuru,among the cannibalitstic Fore tribe of Papua New Guinea. Kuru was the first human prion disease demonstrated to be infectious.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1976/press-release/

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1976/gajdusek/biographical/

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1976/gajdusek/speech/





The documentary:






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« Reply #76 on: March 14, 2019, 08:03:59 AM »
Being a hardcore metal-head, I always hated MJ and his fruity dancing, and didnt like his music.
Talented guy/gal/tranny (whatever it is) just always hated that shite...


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« Reply #78 on: March 14, 2019, 11:54:44 AM »
It even says in the article that he couldn't read or write music and could only play instruments "a bit."  That's a musical genius?  I can read and write music and play 3 instruments and would never even consider myself a good musician let alone a genius.   ::)

Can you orchestrate a hit song in your head, from drums, guitar, strings, then sing each note to a musician to replicate the sound in your head, compose it and make millions? I don't know what qualifies someone as a genius legally, but if other great artists who worked with him acknowledge his musical talent, who am I to argue about it?


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« Reply #79 on: March 14, 2019, 12:04:05 PM »
Did MJ's mansion at Neverland have only one bedroom? Legitimate guests usually sleep in a guest room and not in bed with the host. As a parent, there's no way I would have allowed either my son or daughter to visit MJ much less stay overnight.

When he was a kid, his parent's compound in Encino, CA was just a few doors away from my parent's house. My sister who is the 2 months older than MJ was, was friends with him. She's never mentioned 'sleepovers'.  My parents wouldn't have allowed that, anyway. I grew up around celebrities. They were/are no big deal.

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« Reply #80 on: March 14, 2019, 12:10:00 PM »
Can you orchestrate a hit song in your head, from drums, guitar, strings, then sing each note to a musician to replicate the sound in your head, compose it and make millions? I don't know what qualifies someone as a genius legally, but if other great artists who worked with him acknowledge his musical talent, who am I to argue about it?


They throw "musical genius" around casually for anyone who has hit records.  An example of someone today in pop music who is really talented is Lady Gaga.  I do not listen to her music but there is no doubt she is very talented as was Prince another pop star I don't listen too.  To say someone is a musical genius when they can't even read music would be like saying someone is a mathematical genius even though they can't count.

None of these stars have the musical ability of Mozart or Beethoven anyway.

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« Reply #81 on: March 14, 2019, 12:16:49 PM »
They throw "musical genius" around casually for anyone who has hit records.  An example of someone today in pop music who is really talented is Lady Gaga.  I do not listen to her music but there is no doubt she is very talented as was Prince another pop star I don't listen too.  To say someone is a musical genius when they can't even read music would be like saying someone is a mathematical genius even though they can't count.

None of these stars have the musical ability of Mozart or Beethoven anyway.

Agree. Calling someone a musical genius mainly because they are popular really degrades the term genius.

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« Reply #82 on: March 14, 2019, 12:31:48 PM »
Agree. Calling someone a musical genius mainly because they are popular really degrades the term genius.
Most pop stars are just studio musicians anyway.  Ever see Katy Perry in a live performance?  Ha, ha, she absolutely sucks.

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« Reply #83 on: March 14, 2019, 12:40:43 PM »
Agree. Calling someone a musical genius mainly because they are popular really degrades the term genius.

IF that were the case here, I would agree

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« Reply #84 on: March 14, 2019, 12:49:50 PM »
Let’s just agree He was a Weirdo Musical Talent & A Peadophile
I’m Glad He’s Dead

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« Reply #85 on: March 14, 2019, 06:28:18 PM »
Let’s just agree He was a Weirdo Musical Tatlent & A Peadophile
I’m Glad He’s Dead

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Re: Is M.J. officially guilty now?
« Reply #86 on: March 14, 2019, 07:38:46 PM »

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« Reply #87 on: March 15, 2019, 11:13:05 AM »
Let’s just agree He was a Weirdo Musical Talent & A Peadophile
I’m Glad He’s Dead

Yes he was strange, but I am neither glad nor sad that he's dead. People die. Some celebrities fade away and some croak.

I have a big problem with the parents who whored their kids out to a suspected pedophile in exchange for who knows what.

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« Reply #88 on: March 15, 2019, 11:49:03 AM »

I have a big problem with the parents who whored their kids out to a suspected pedophile in exchange for who knows what.

This part I also agree with - They have a lot to answer for.

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« Reply #89 on: March 15, 2019, 12:32:38 PM »
This part I also agree with - They have a lot to answer for.
The two dads already killed themselves.

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« Reply #90 on: March 15, 2019, 03:26:12 PM »
I don't believe Michael molested anyone(but dont know), he was completely asexual. Michael was an early form of what we see all over today, denying ones biology and just being whatever you feel you are, so he decided to be a 12 year old boy.

The summer when a boy turns 12 is a magical one. Just graduated grade school, into girls but not ready for sex. A great summer day when a boy turns 12 is going with his buddies to the skateboard park all day until it gets dark, getting change together for Gatorade and asking your mom to rent the MMA fight for the boys sleepover.

But its just that summer of 12 years old. The rest of your life you want to get laid and get paid. Its biology. Michael chose Peter Pan because he was 12 years old and non sexual. He viewed these boys as peers, not as a creepy old man, ironically making it just as creepy. lt was wrong, he was 52 years old.

But in his mind he wasnt. He wanted to  permanently stay in the summer of 12 years old. .

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« Reply #91 on: March 15, 2019, 05:45:24 PM »
The two dads already killed themselves.

That in its self is very odd - Also one of the Mothers has been completely isolated from the grandchildren!!

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« Reply #92 on: March 15, 2019, 05:53:56 PM »
I don't believe Michael molested anyone(but dont know), he was completely asexual. Michael was an early form of what we see all over today, denying ones biology and just being whatever you feel you are, so he decided to be a 12 year old boy.

The summer when a boy turns 12 is a magical one. Just graduated grade school, into girls but not ready for sex. A great summer day when a boy turns 12 is going with his buddies to the skateboard park all day until it gets dark, getting change together for Gatorade and asking your mom to rent the MMA fight for the boys sleepover.

But its just that summer of 12 years old. The rest of your life you want to get laid and get paid. Its biology. Michael chose Peter Pan because he was 12 years old and non sexual. He viewed these boys as peers, not as a creepy old man, ironically making it just as creepy. lt was wrong, he was 52 years old.

But in his mind he wasnt. He wanted to  permanently stay in the summer of 12 years old. .

I completely disagree with your opinion ( though accept you’re entitled to it)
The never grew up Bollocks was just a cover - he may very well of been immature
He knew perfectly well what his intentions were & what he did.
His “Fame” & $ bought off a lot of people & gave him some protection.

The Term “Hidden in Plain Sight” comes to mind for Michael UpurJacksy.

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« Reply #93 on: March 15, 2019, 09:37:09 PM »
I don't believe Michael molested anyone(but dont know), he was completely asexual. Michael was an early form of what we see all over today, denying ones biology and just being whatever you feel you are, so he decided to be a 12 year old boy.

The summer when a boy turns 12 is a magical one. Just graduated grade school, into girls but not ready for sex. A great summer day when a boy turns 12 is going with his buddies to the skateboard park all day until it gets dark, getting change together for Gatorade and asking your mom to rent the MMA fight for the boys sleepover.

But its just that summer of 12 years old. The rest of your life you want to get laid and get paid. Its biology. Michael chose Peter Pan because he was 12 years old and non sexual. He viewed these boys as peers, not as a creepy old man, ironically making it just as creepy. lt was wrong, he was 52 years old.

But in his mind he wasnt. He wanted to  permanently stay in the summer of 12 years old. .

FYI, there is something wrong with a person's mind when they desire to remain a mental and asexual 12 year old all their lives. I both had and went to sleepovers with friends when I was that age and they were too. Since we guys would usually camp out in the backyard of each other's houses, the dad would check on us....not get in bed with us.

I can positively assure you that if some grown man invited me to a sleepover with him when I was a kid, both my parents would report his ass and not send me off to get in bed with a freak....celebrity or not.

It's nice that you are sympathetic to MJ and his mental disorders. But, please don't excuse him or the parents who supplied their kids for his 52 going on 12 year-old bedtime sleep overs. It's magic alright....sick, scary magic.  ::)

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« Reply #94 on: March 16, 2019, 12:31:17 AM »


YEP, I BELIEVE THIS DUDE AFTER THE FACT.  ::)

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« Reply #95 on: March 16, 2019, 02:15:35 AM »


YEP, I BELIEVE THIS DUDE AFTER THE FACT.  ::)

Why do these revelations always end up involving a lawsuit? Money won't fix what was broken by a sexual predator and abuser. IMO it delegitimizes their accusations or at least calls their true motives into question. 

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« Reply #96 on: March 16, 2019, 05:55:02 AM »
FYI, there is something wrong with a person's mind when they desire to remain a mental and asexual 12 year old all their lives. I both had and went to sleepovers with friends when I was that age and they were too. Since we guys would usually camp out in the backyard of each other's houses, the dad would check on us....not get in bed with us.

I can positively assure you that if some grown man invited me to a sleepover with him when I was a kid, both my parents would report his ass and not send me off to get in bed with a freak....celebrity or not.

It's nice that you are sympathetic to MJ and his mental disorders. But, please don't excuse him or the parents who supplied their kids for his 52 going on 12 year-old bedtime sleep overs. It's magic alright....sick, scary magic.  ::)

There's something with a person's mind when they desire to be referred to as the opposite sex.  They do this in pure defiance of Nature which is plainly backed up with them having the wrong genitalia.  Pedophiles are disgusting but cucktards will one day embrace them as being acceptably normal simply because not only do they lack the backbone, the testicular fortitude to say "Wrong is wrong" but they (cucktards) want to do what they want to do without being told they are sick, stupid, disgusting and anathema to Nature itself.

Just because something appears in Nature does not make it acceptable to Creation.  But you know all of this and yet still you and others of your ilk clamor for "fairness" and what John termed, "Justus".

Typist.

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Re: Is M.J. officially guilty now?
« Reply #97 on: March 16, 2019, 09:15:07 AM »
FYI, there is something wrong with a person's mind when they desire to remain a mental and asexual 12 year old all their lives. I both had and went to sleepovers with friends when I was that age and they were too. Since we guys would usually camp out in the backyard of each other's houses, the dad would check on us....not get in bed with us.

I can positively assure you that if some grown man invited me to a sleepover with him when I was a kid, both my parents would report his ass and not send me off to get in bed with a freak....celebrity or not.

It's nice that you are sympathetic to MJ and his mental disorders. But, please don't excuse him or the parents who supplied their kids for his 52 going on 12 year-old bedtime sleep overs. It's magic alright....sick, scary magic.  ::)
At least keep in mind the kid in the documentary, Wade Dobbs and his whole family UNDER OATH to the police and even on the stand in the 90s trial SWORE under penalty of perjury and jail time NOTHING HAPPENED. Burden of proof is quite a bit less for an HBO documentary.

When this recent shit started, it was a civil suit demanding money in 2017, where he got scumbag Hollywood attorney Henry Gradstein to try and extort a Jackson estate settlement, which was REFUSED by the estate so they got a judge who TOSSED the whole fucking case.

Michael was ASEXUAL, go watch him kiss his fake wife Lisa Marie, thats a 12 year old virgin boy kissing a woman. Oprah called him out in the 93 interview.."Michael are you a virgin?" No answer because it was painfully obvious. Include Michael in any incel threads.

Problem was letting a man live as a child when he's not. Biology exists for a reaaon.



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Re: Is M.J. officially guilty now?
« Reply #98 on: March 16, 2019, 09:55:36 AM »

Michael Jackson's lawyer blames #MeToo for new accusations | 60 Minutes Australia.





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« Reply #99 on: March 16, 2019, 10:09:17 AM »
They throw "musical genius" around casually for anyone who has hit records.  An example of someone today in pop music who is really talented is Lady Gaga.  I do not listen to her music but there is no doubt she is very talented as was Prince another pop star I don't listen too.  To say someone is a musical genius when they can't even read music would be like saying someone is a mathematical genius even though they can't count.

None of these stars have the musical ability of Mozart or Beethoven anyway.



While is true that the word "genius" is thrown around way too much

Michael Jackson was a Genius on his own right ,  So many talents put  together since he was a kid , the biggest entertainer there ever was .... then the vision to go write songs that practically crushed every thing that had extraordinary reaction world wide  in history before him ....

Besides, you can't never compare numbers and arts  when it comes to "genius"  it just doesn't work that way ...

To think That Quincy jones didn't want MJ to record "Billie jeans "  and look what happened with music after its release  "vision" .... The music he created from 70's and 80's will be hard to top..... not to mention every major artist is a copy cat one way or the other of what he brought to the stage .



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