Is M.J. officially guilty now?

[budgiesmuggler]

I would never trust a man with my kids, especially jacko lol. he was a strange guy, but the accusations from these guys are BS.

Especially the main one from the documentary, he realised he failed at life, and it was either this avenue or the suicide pill (unless he was willing to downgrade from the hollyweird lifestyle and work a 9-5).

That "main guy" was highly successful.

It's clear from your posts that you are a pedo defender. And highly suspicious yourself.

[Humble Narcissist]

This is very well covered in the Leaving Neverland documentary.

Feldman was an ugly looking kid. And a movie star. 

These other two were good looking kids and average people.

Jackson had a "type".  Rapists don't rape every woman they know...

I know that now as I have watched the video since that post.

[Humble Narcissist]

How can you tell that it was demonic with all the pancake he spackled on his face?

I believe I watched the both episodes on HBO.

The pics with those kids in the 80's was before MJ went through the physical transformation.

[budgiesmuggler]

in the documentary I think one family actively pursued him from australia and the other was the typical child performer family.

a responsible family would have told him to fuck off.

OK now I know you are filth.

It's clear that you are outright lying about the families.

Jackson clearly pursued the American kid - in a BIG WAY.

The Aussie mother did leave her husband to pursue her talented kids career in the USA - but that was at MJ's suggestion.

[budgiesmuggler]

Speaking of Michael Jackson.....his daughter is not taking that documentary well>

https://www.tmz.com/2019/03/16/paris-jackson-hospitalized-attempted-suicide-leaving-neverland-michael/

I feel so sorry for this girl.   She must be in a bad mental state.  Deep down she probably know MJ was a child abuser, but if she ever acknowledges it MJ's sick fans and his family will demonize her. 

She is expected to live with cognitive dissonance. And for a girl who was already suicidal in the past it is a very terrible place she is in right now.

She can't win either way! 

[Primemuscle]

The pics with those kids in the 80's was before MJ went through the physical transformation.

Are you saying he looked much like most other people in the 80's? Is this the picture of a person you'd entrust you kids to?

[Henda]

I bet he had sex with that chimp as well as noncing bairns the dirty stinking creepy cunt

[Humble Narcissist]

Are you saying he looked much like most other people in the 80's? Is this the picture of a person you'd entrust you kids to?

You said you watched the documentary.  There were several pics in that doc of Jackson where he looked totally demonic and perverted.  Watch it again.

[myt1]

I feel so sorry for this girl.   She must be in a bad mental state.  Deep down she probably know MJ was a child abuser, but if she ever acknowledges it MJ's sick fans and his family will demonize her. 

She is expected to live with cognitive dissonance. And for a girl who was already suicidal in the past it is a very terrible place she is in right now.

She can't win either way! 

Fuck them!  For every fake "fan" she'd lose just because she "is" MJ's kid, she'd likely pick up 3 real ones that supported her, and cheered her on to better things in life. 

She likely inherited enough "Fuck You" money for the rest of her life if she handles it right, that having that family demonize her wouldn't effect her financially and would serve her image in a positive manner as most of the world thinks everyone but Janet is a hack, user, coat tail rider, or in the case of Joe....a straight up piece of shit. 

Seriously, who the fuck neuters their child with drugs to stop puberty just so they can sing like when they were 10?  What a deranged money hungry piece of filth!

[The Scott]

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Seriously, who the fuck neuters their child with drugs to stop puberty just so they can sing like when they were 10?  What a deranged money hungry piece of filth!

The Catholic Church neutered young boys to enable them to sing like women but with a far more powerful voice.  They were called "Il Castrato" and there was even a film made about these boys/young men.  The Church claimed it was done for the glory of the Lord.  If God exists, castrating innocents is not something a loving deity would find acceptable.

So yes.  People have been subjected to this disgusting practice long before Jackson's time, albeit not chemically but via the knife. 

For the record, Catholicism is not of the Nazarene but rather, of men.  It sought control via the time honored method of mixing a bit of truth (the message of the Nazarene) with a shitload of lies (Catholic Doctrine/Dogma).

[Primemuscle]

You said you watched the documentary.  There were several pics in that doc of Jackson where he looked totally demonic and perverted.  Watch it again.

Do you like being contrary? You're confusing me. No matter that I posted a photo of him from 1985 where he looked creepy, too creepy for any right minded person to trust their kids with him.

So now your say that if I didn't notice his demonic appearance in the film, leaving Neverland, you think I should watch it again. Who cares whether he looked demonic or not. The film exposed him for the sick demon he was, regardless of the fact that he was ever proved guilty of being a demented pedophile in a court of law.

I am not going to watch that film again. It upset me enough that my emotions were completely raw and tears were streaming down my cheeks for all the people whose lives he ruined and the permanent damage he caused innocent children which has stayed with them well into their adulthood.

I cannot believe that some folks here were so taken by his talent and fame that they are willing to forgive or ignore the obvious. Instead they defend him because he had the emotional maturity of a 12 year old child who never grew up. -Got news for them, I don't buy the "Peter Pan" theory. What is quite ironic is that if you look into the original story of Peter Pan which depicted an actual person, that character was an evil pedophile who intended to steal someone's children.  

[myt1]

Do you like being contrary? You're confusing me. No matter that I posted a photo of him from 1985 where he looked creepy, too creepy for any right minded person to trust their kids with him.

So now your say that if I didn't notice his demonic appearance in the film, leaving Neverland, you think I should watch it again. Who cares whether he looked demonic or not. The film exposed him for the sick demon he was, regardless of the fact that he was ever proved guilty of being a demented pedophile in a court of law.

I am not going to watch that film again. It upset me enough that my emotions were completely raw and tears were streaming down my cheeks for all the people whose lives he ruined and the permanent damage he caused innocent children which has stayed with them well into their adulthood.

I cannot believe that some folks here were so taken by his talent and fame that they are willing to forgive or ignore the obvious. Instead they defend him because he had the emotional maturity of a 12 year old child who never grew up. -Got news for them, I don't buy the "Peter Pan" theory. What is quite ironic is that if you look into the original story of Peter Pan which depicted an actual person, that character was an evil pedophile who intended to steal someone's children.  

And yet you'll vote democrat in 2020 knowing that aborting babies out of the womb, kept comfortable on a table, while having a discussion to terminate them is a real thing.....where's you tears about that?

[myt1]

The Catholic Church neutered young boys to enable them to sing like women but with a far more powerful voice.  They were called "Il Castrato" and there was even a film made about these boys/young men.  The Church claimed it was done for the glory of the Lord.  If God exists, castrating innocents is not something a loving deity would find acceptable.

So yes.  People have been subjected to this disgusting practice long before Jackson's time, albeit not chemically but via the knife. 

For the record, Catholicism is not of the Nazarene but rather, of men.  It sought control via the time honored method of mixing a bit of truth (the message of the Nazarene) with a shitload of lies (Catholic Doctrine/Dogma).

I've heard about castration for opera singers....I didn't know it was thing with Catholicism.  That organization can piss up a rope.  Sin M-Sat, apologize Sunday and all is good to do it all over again.  That's messed up as it is, but it goes way deeper for me personally than that as a result of a suicide.  They change their stances on things based on what you did for their church, and that's bullshit!  Either you believe something or you don't.  It seems the only thing they really believe in is transferring pedophile priests from church to church, city to city, and state to state to protect themselves instead of the children who were brought there by their parents to learn about being a good person and putting your faith in God.  Complete disgrace!

[budgiesmuggler]

The Catholic Church neutered young boys to enable them to sing like women but with a far more powerful voice.  They were called "Il Castrato" and there was even a film made about these boys/young men.  The Church claimed it was done for the glory of the Lord.  If God exists, castrating innocents is not something a loving deity would find acceptable.

So yes.  People have been subjected to this disgusting practice long before Jackson's time, albeit not chemically but via the knife. 

For the record, Catholicism is not of the Nazarene but rather, of men.  It sought control via the time honored method of mixing a bit of truth (the message of the Nazarene) with a shitload of lies (Catholic Doctrine/Dogma).

LOL the protestant church and the now thousands of charismatic fundamentalist sects are all just offshoots of the catholic church.  The bible only nutters don't even know that the bible was created by the catholic church.

[Dave D]

LOL the protestant church and the now thousands of charismatic fundamentalist sects are all just offshoots of the catholic church.  The bible only nutters don't even know that the bible was created by the catholic church.

Tell us more, I didnt realize you were such a bible scholar.

[budgiesmuggler]

Tell us more, I didnt realize you were such a bible scholar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Rome

They CHOSE what would be included and what would not be included in the bible.

[SF1900]

Tell us more, I didnt realize you were such a bible scholar.

Getbiggers are scholars in many areas of discipline.

[Humble Narcissist]

Do you like being contrary? You're confusing me. No matter that I posted a photo of him from 1985 where he looked creepy, too creepy for any right minded person to trust their kids with him.

So now your say that if I didn't notice his demonic appearance in the film, leaving Neverland, you think I should watch it again. Who cares whether he looked demonic or not. The film exposed him for the sick demon he was, regardless of the fact that he was ever proved guilty of being a demented pedophile in a court of law.

I am not going to watch that film again. It upset me enough that my emotions were completely raw and tears were streaming down my cheeks for all the people whose lives he ruined and the permanent damage he caused innocent children which has stayed with them well into their adulthood.

I cannot believe that some folks here were so taken by his talent and fame that they are willing to forgive or ignore the obvious. Instead they defend him because he had the emotional maturity of a 12 year old child who never grew up. -Got news for them, I don't buy the "Peter Pan" theory. What is quite ironic is that if you look into the original story of Peter Pan which depicted an actual person, that character was an evil pedophile who intended to steal someone's children.  

I thought you were defending him by using a less than demonic pic.  There were other photos way worse than that one.

[Kwon]

How can you tell that it was demonic with all the pancake he spackled on his face?

I believe I watched the both episodes on HBO.

Pancake on face = Demonic.

[Kwon]

Yes it is tough viewing - A very Creepy Weirdo.
The parents & some of Jacko’s People I’d like to see questioned & cross examined.

Some parents do disgusting things for money it seems.

[illuminati]

Some parents do disgusting things for money it seems.

Yes - Sadly Clearly So.

[Primemuscle]

Pancake on face = Demonic.

Clowns

[TheShape.]

Do you like being contrary? You're confusing me. No matter that I posted a photo of him from 1985 where he looked creepy, too creepy for any right minded person to trust their kids with him.

So now your say that if I didn't notice his demonic appearance in the film, leaving Neverland, you think I should watch it again. Who cares whether he looked demonic or not. The film exposed him for the sick demon he was, regardless of the fact that he was ever proved guilty of being a demented pedophile in a court of law.

I am not going to watch that film again. It upset me enough that my emotions were completely raw and tears were streaming down my cheeks for all the people whose lives he ruined and the permanent damage he caused innocent children which has stayed with them well into their adulthood.

I cannot believe that some folks here were so taken by his talent and fame that they are willing to forgive or ignore the obvious. Instead they defend him because he had the emotional maturity of a 12 year old child who never grew up. -Got news for them, I don't buy the "Peter Pan" theory. What is quite ironic is that if you look into the original story of Peter Pan which depicted an actual person, that character was an evil pedophile who intended to steal someone's children.  

It’s amazing the effect of just one single documentary can have on someone. I love how the mother said she danced when he died in 2009 but only found out about the allegations in 2013. Surely no one would ever lie about someone for money, definitely not anyone who is now deceased and cannot defend themselves or an estate that is worth billions. That would be silly.

[Dave D]

Whether today or in the past, criminal and civil guilt is determined in the courts by juries or judges based on the evidence presented. In this case, MJ wasn't found guilty due to a lack of evidence via victim's and witness testimonies.

-Finished watching 'Leaving Neverland' last night. The victims and their families were completely believable. If they are lying, all of them deserve best actor awards. The documentary also examples how deeply MJ's suspected pedophilia affected the victims' entire families. The film is heartbreaking and it makes me mad as hell that in all probability, this atrocity actually happened.

One big takeaway for me is that there should be no statute of limitations on these types of crimes. The damage to the victims doesn't go away. It is something they will carry with them for the rest of their lives. Why should the perpetrators' culpability ever conclude?

It’s amazing the effect of just one single documentary can have on someone. I love how the mother said she danced when he died in 2009 but only found out about the allegations in 2013. Surely no one would ever lie about someone for money, definitely not anyone who is now deceased and cannot defend themselves or an estate that is worth billions. That would be silly.

Prime just likes arguing.

In the same statement he claims MJ was found not guilty due to a lack of evidence and in the next paragraph he states that based on a documentary MJ is guilty.

[Primemuscle]

It’s amazing the effect of just one single documentary can have on someone. I love how the mother said she danced when he died in 2009 but only found out about the allegations in 2013. Surely no one would ever lie about someone for money, definitely not anyone who is now deceased and cannot defend themselves or an estate that is worth billions. That would be silly.

Those civil lawsuits filed in 2013 were dismissed because the time line exceeded the statute of limitations. It is currently awaiting a ruling on appeal. The Jackson Estate recently filed a $100 mil plus lawsuit against HBO for producing and airing Leaving Neverland. The Jackson estate invested a lot of money and time trying to block and/or distract from the release of Leaving Neverland.