PJ Braun & Aaron Singerman Charged in Illegal Dietary Supplement Scheme

[Taffin]

Interesting take . . . PJ can do online training and make a good living for himself. Arrogant Singerman - he may not recover.

I wonder, will the Guerrilla Chemist be involved in this legal concert.

J

I was wondering that myself.  Also, do you guys in the US allow service dogs in jail/prison..?

[tres_taco_combo]

I was wondering that myself.  Also, do you guys in the US allow service dogs in jail/prison..?

must be 40 lbs or less and non aggressive dogs - poodles etc etc

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

it's a good thing we are all innocent until proven guilty in this country. (last time I checked the us constitution)

Oh shut the fuck up with that shit. ...lol.   Other than being white rather than being a colored person, you really don't have much of a chance not doing prison timr

[Tbomzisback!]

if PJ makes it ,,, without prison time... he can rebound...  new fancy labeling and marketing.... snake oil will still sell....  it's the nature of the beast...

Are people here still trying to imitate GH15's posting style?    

[denarii]

pretty sure it had more to do with being on 10 grams of test + other stuff like hgh and insulin.. than it had to do with taking some creatine, sugar and caffeine supplements.

Didn't his autopsy show unusual numbers IE he was on a different set of anabolics?

[JAGO]

[JAGO]

[Skylge]

Supplements do not work. Unless you add illegal steroids to them. Which can be risky for unaware buyers

If I recall correctly, Gaspari nutrition had the same "problem" with illegal ingredients?

[Dave D]

What was in angel dust that was illegal?

[Twaddle]

What was in angel dust that was illegal?

PCP

 

[Dave D]

PCP

 

Lol

[JAGO]

Supplements do not work. Unless you add illegal steroids to them. Which can be risky for unaware buyers

If I recall correctly, Gaspari nutrition had the same "problem" with illegal ingredients?

Spot on post.

J

[ratherbebig]

Spot on post.

J

what supplements do you buy that doesnt work? everything i buy do what i expect them to do.

[denarii]

I think these work fine:

Multi vits
Omega Oils
Preworkout with a stimulant such as caffeine
Hydrolysed whey as an easy way to get low carb, low fat protein

The rest a pretty much bollocks I think unless they are anabolic.

[BB]

What was in angel dust that was illegal?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1,3-Dimethylbutylamine .

FDA Letter - https://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2015/ucm444383.htm .

Others the FDA found troublesome  - https://www.fda.gov/food/dietarysupplements/productsingredients/ucm444719.htm .

[Tbomzisback!]

Creatine works pretty well, actually.

Not going to make you an IFBB pro, but definitely provides a significant boost.

[Dave D]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1,3-Dimethylbutylamine .

FDA Letter - https://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2015/ucm444383.htm .

Others the FDA found troublesome  - https://www.fda.gov/food/dietarysupplements/productsingredients/ucm444719.htm .

Thanks.

[deadz]

Creatine works pretty well, actually.

Not going to make you an IFBB pro, but definitely provides a significant boost.

Perfectly safe? Use it then go get bloodwork done and let me know how your kidneys are doing.

[myt1]

I'm still waiting for the Venomous One to refute what Hypertrophy and I are saying about them being charged with distribution of a controlled substance as it relates to SARMs.  I want a link with legality info, not an opinion.  I posted the link to the bill, and it has not passed.

I'm admitting Vince likely knows more about SARMs than me, but I want proof that they are in fact illegal to sell or buy.  Does anyone have concrete evidence that what he's saying is true?

[Pet shop boys]

Perfectly safe? Use it then go get bloodwork done and let me know how your kidneys are doing.

X2.

If you're over 35, chances are the bloodwork will show that kidneys are going to be stressed out due to creatine  daily intake .... this told by a sports doctor with 25 years of experience .
and he has seen teenagers too with weak kidneys",  Although teenagers are tend to be abusive and careless 

WoooSHHHHHHHHHHH

[tres_taco_combo]

X2.

If you're over 35, chances are the bloodwork will show that kidneys are going to be stressed out due to creatine  daily intake .... this told by a sports doctor with 25 years of experience .
and he has seen teenagers too with weak kidneys",  Although teenagers are tend to be abusive and careless  

WoooSHHHHHHHHHHH

shouldnt creatine be used in cycles? 12 weeks on 12 weeks off?

also many bbers have high blood pressure which hurts kidneys, protein intake etc and hard training can increase kidney levels too

this is a product called "Kidney stuff" that help.

[Pet shop boys]

shouldnt creatine be used in cycles? 12 weeks on 12 weeks off?

also many bbers have high blood pressure which hurts kidneys, protein intake etc and hard training can increase kidney levels too

this is a product called "Kidney stuff" that help.

Yes, once you're off,  kidneys levels should go back to normal. but the older you are the bigger the stress on kidneys ,and  like you say, everything Bodybuilding related take a hit on kidneys , add creatine to the equation and you might irreversible damage.


WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH   VINTAGE

[tres_taco_combo]

Yes, once you're off,  kidneys levels should go back to normal. but the older you are the bigger the stress on kidneys ,and  like you say, everything Bodybuilding related take a hit on kidneys , add creatine to the equation and you might irreversible damage.


WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH   VINTAGE

my last blood work was solid (kidney items)


#s ------------------------------------------healthy range
Glucose, Serum 83 --------------------- -  65-99 mg/dL
BUN 17------------------- ------------------6-20 mg/dL
Creatinine, Serum 1.17 --------------------0.76-1.27 mg/dL 01
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 15-------------------- 9-20


super curious to get it again in about a month

make sure you fast 24 hours not, just 12 hours. fast 24 hours at least before bloods and stop training for 3 days prior too

[JAGO]

what supplements do you buy that doesnt work? everything i buy do what i expect them to do.

Fortunes have been made selling to those with low expectations.

J

[Vince B]

Besides, I know Aaron and I'm sure he will be fine.

Could you explain why you feel this way? Those two are facing many serious criminal charges.