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Re: But but but I thought bjj was unbeatable
« Reply #75 on: May 01, 2019, 07:28:56 PM »
No or very little Blood
No Bullets hitting walls / holes in walls
What everyone just ran into a corner a piled up dead on top of one & other
And there’s plenty of other odd stuff
Watch and see.

No fucking way. Are you and Iron Cross saying that shooting was staged? Damn!!

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Re: But but but I thought bjj was unbeatable
« Reply #76 on: May 01, 2019, 08:25:39 PM »
No fucking way. Are you and Iron Cross saying that shooting was staged? Damn!!

Speaking of being (on the) stage(d)...



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Re: But but but I thought bjj was unbeatable
« Reply #77 on: May 01, 2019, 09:00:53 PM »
No fucking way. Are you and Iron Cross saying that shooting was staged? Damn!!


not just us


10 years of prison for watching/owning/distributing 16 minutes long video  :o :o :o WHY !.


obw, jacinda ardern , new zealand prime minister was president of the international socialist youth  ;)




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Re: But but but I thought bjj was unbeatable
« Reply #78 on: May 02, 2019, 05:27:36 AM »

not just us


10 years of prison for watching/owning/distributing 16 minutes long video  :o :o :o WHY !.


Then what happened on that streaming, Man?
The guy loaded up, drove around, stopped at the Mosque, and the World went all Matrix? lol





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Re: But but but I thought bjj was unbeatable
« Reply #79 on: May 02, 2019, 05:51:09 AM »
No fucking way. Are you and Iron Cross saying that shooting was staged? Damn!!

I'm sceptical about such events especially when watching what the aftermath / reaction is
Look how low key the aftermath of the sri lanka massacre ??
Other than that watching through the NZ video those points mentioned are noticeable.
Coincidence or some kind of trickery !!!

The death of Dr David Kelly (uk) Again suspect
Twin Towers - i'm 50/50 0n that one again some stuff doesn't seem to fit
The death of Diana - A lot of anomalies

Clearly the General public are frequently lied to & tricked by Governments
for all sorts of ulterior motives - I prefer to keep a open mind & question
Events - Look at us in the UK we Voted to leave europe nearly 3yrs ago
& we no closer to leaving.

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Re: But but but I thought bjj was unbeatable
« Reply #80 on: May 02, 2019, 06:02:45 AM »
I'm sceptical about such events especially when watching what the aftermath / reaction is
Look how low key the aftermath of the sri lanka massacre ??
Other than that watching through the NZ video those points mentioned are noticeable.
Coincidence or some kind of trickery !!!

The death of Dr David Kelly (uk) Again suspect
Twin Towers - i'm 50/50 0n that one again some stuff doesn't seem to fit
The death of Diana - A lot of anomalies

Clearly the General public are frequently lied to & tricked by Governments
for all sorts of ulterior motives - I prefer to keep a open mind & question
Events - Look at us in the UK we Voted to leave europe nearly 3yrs ago
& we no closer to leaving.

Mainstream Media usually dont pay attention to places like Sri Lanka. But, anything is really possible

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Re: But but but I thought bjj was unbeatable
« Reply #81 on: May 02, 2019, 06:29:06 AM »



FAKE !?. U need to watch that video again & again  ;)

Jacinda publicly congratulated police for arriving in ONLY 36 minutes (yeap, 36 minutes)    ::)


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Re: But but but I thought bjj was unbeatable
« Reply #82 on: May 02, 2019, 06:33:14 AM »

FAKE !?. U need to watch that video again & again  ;)

Jacinda publicly congratulated police for arriving in ONLY 36 minutes (yeap, 36 minutes)    ::)



The ambulances arrived pretty fast, Tho. He was fleeing the scene, and a couple of sirens were already sounding really lous on the other side of the Road

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Re: But but but I thought bjj was unbeatable
« Reply #83 on: May 02, 2019, 06:58:23 AM »
Mainstream Media usually dont pay attention to places like Sri Lanka. But, anything is really possible

HMMM Here in The UK MSM isn't paying any attention to the on going (6mnths) of Protests in a place like France.

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Re: But but but I thought bjj was unbeatable
« Reply #84 on: May 02, 2019, 07:15:25 AM »
HMMM Here in The UK MSM isn't paying any attention to the on going (6mnths) of Protests in a place like France.


Because EU must be visually  presented as paradise of nations   ;)

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Re: But but but I thought bjj was unbeatable
« Reply #85 on: May 02, 2019, 02:02:51 PM »
Been carrying a Smith and Wesson for over 35 years. I just recently switched to carrying a Glock. Might go back to my Smith. It's like an old friend.





Glock 27....The baby bulldog.

I'm too old to take an ass whipping and too young to die....

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Re: But but but I thought bjj was unbeatable
« Reply #86 on: May 02, 2019, 03:16:08 PM »
I'm sceptical about such events especially when watching what the aftermath / reaction is
Look how low key the aftermath of the sri lanka massacre ??
Other than that watching through the NZ video those points mentioned are noticeable.
Coincidence or some kind of trickery !!!

The death of Dr David Kelly (uk) Again suspect
Twin Towers - i'm 50/50 0n that one again some stuff doesn't seem to fit
The death of Diana - A lot of anomalies

Clearly the General public are frequently lied to & tricked by Governments
for all sorts of ulterior motives - I prefer to keep a open mind & question
Events - Look at us in the UK we Voted to leave europe nearly 3yrs ago
& we no closer to leaving.


Remember: summit is Paris is named 'Christchurch Summit' , not Paris summit or 'SRI LANKAN summit'  ::)

Also: every fuc.......... billioner now own property in New Zealand  ???

Suddenly Aussie needs to do Christchurch shit, like there is no mosques in Australia  ::)

& surprise,surprise very well arm (90% hunting rifles) New Zealand population must give away those guns ..............



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Re: But but but I thought bjj was unbeatable
« Reply #87 on: May 02, 2019, 05:25:59 PM »

Remember: summit is Paris is named 'Christchurch Summit' , not Paris summit or 'SRI LANKAN summit'  ::)

Also: every fuc.......... billioner now own property in New Zealand  ???

Suddenly Aussie needs to do Christchurch shit, like there is no mosques in Australia  ::)

& surprise,surprise very well arm (90% hunting rifles) New Zealand population must give away those guns ..............




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Re: But but but I thought bjj was unbeatable
« Reply #88 on: May 03, 2019, 10:30:50 AM »
You fucking idiot, I have been an Atheist for quite some time now. Where've you been, fapping to Nasser on a muslime prayer rug in a closet wallpapered with tbombz bunny suit posters?   You  are an assholist.  Go try and fuck with someone closer to your own pathetic intellectual level.

I can see your reply now..."Meltdown".  Fucking pathetic IOLer.  Like so many here you refuse to learn and prefer to be taught a lesson.

Nasser? Na never was a fan, I was always a Dexter man.

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Re: But but but I thought bjj was unbeatable
« Reply #89 on: May 03, 2019, 11:27:19 AM »
BJJ isn't perfect. If you're fighting an unskilled person and use BJJ, odds are heavily in your favor to not just win, but hurt them pretty bad.

If you fight a skilled striker (boxer, muay thai etc) and manage to get them to the ground, it's game over for them, unless they are capable of getting back on their feet and/or have good defense against BJJ. Often times, if they don't have good take-down defense and/or any BJJ/wrestling acumen, their pretty much a fish out of water.

If you fight a skilled olympic-style wrestler, you will have met your kryptonite, unless you've trained to handle wrestlers. While they might not beat you on the ground (unless they slam you on your head), they will certainly neutralize your threat and know how to get back up easily. Wrestlers won't submit me, but their exhausting to roll with. They just know how to manipulate their bodies and yours in such a way that makes BJJ feel more like a task than an art. You sometimes go fully on defense mode and find it futile.

I've always felt that the best combination to have are solid Muay Thai + BJJ + Wrestling skills. I am not too sure that the idea of getting a black belt in one and then slowly trying to become proficient in the others is necessarily the best approach either. I think a well balanced approach, with equal time dedicated to each will make you a more complete fighter/MMA practitioner. I believe that if someone is serious about their training and devotes at least 3 years of weekly training (3-4x/week) to these three disciplines or just trains at an MMA academy that integrates all 3, you can be good enough to handle yourself well against the vast majority of people and fighters that are not pro-level. I also believe that if you are well versed in all 3 of those, you can/will most likely take out an individual that has one-dimensional experience in just one of the arts.

Also, you can easily interchange muay thai for boxing, but as someone that trained in boxing for years, I would have loved to have truly developed leg strikes and the use of knees and elbows from an early age. As you get older, it won't be an opponents skull that hurts your elbow, but instead it will be a less obvious opponent, like arthritis.

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Re: But but but I thought bjj was unbeatable
« Reply #90 on: May 03, 2019, 02:05:05 PM »
BJJ isn't perfect. If you're fighting an unskilled person and use BJJ, odds are heavily in your favor to not just win, but hurt them pretty bad.

If you fight a skilled striker (boxer, muay thai etc) and manage to get them to the ground, it's game over for them, unless they are capable of getting back on their feet and/or have good defense against BJJ. Often times, if they don't have good take-down defense and/or any BJJ/wrestling acumen, their pretty much a fish out of water.

If you fight a skilled olympic-style wrestler, you will have met your kryptonite, unless you've trained to handle wrestlers. While they might not beat you on the ground (unless they slam you on your head), they will certainly neutralize your threat and know how to get back up easily. Wrestlers won't submit me, but their exhausting to roll with. They just know how to manipulate their bodies and yours in such a way that makes BJJ feel more like a task than an art. You sometimes go fully on defense mode and find it futile.

I've always felt that the best combination to have are solid Muay Thai + BJJ + Wrestling skills. I am not too sure that the idea of getting a black belt in one and then slowly trying to become proficient in the others is necessarily the best approach either. I think a well balanced approach, with equal time dedicated to each will make you a more complete fighter/MMA practitioner. I believe that if someone is serious about their training and devotes at least 3 years of weekly training (3-4x/week) to these three disciplines or just trains at an MMA academy that integrates all 3, you can be good enough to handle yourself well against the vast majority of people and fighters that are not pro-level. I also believe that if you are well versed in all 3 of those, you can/will most likely take out an individual that has one-dimensional experience in just one of the arts.

Also, you can easily interchange muay thai for boxing, but as someone that trained in boxing for years, I would have loved to have truly developed leg strikes and the use of knees and elbows from an early age. As you get older, it won't be an opponents skull that hurts your elbow, but instead it will be a less obvious opponent, like arthritis.

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Finally a post on Muay Thai. Ramon Dekkers forever :)

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Re: But but but I thought bjj was unbeatable
« Reply #91 on: May 03, 2019, 02:25:42 PM »
BJJ isn't perfect. If you're fighting an unskilled person and use BJJ, odds are heavily in your favor to not just win, but hurt them pretty bad.

If you fight a skilled striker (boxer, muay thai etc) and manage to get them to the ground, it's game over for them, unless they are capable of getting back on their feet and/or have good defense against BJJ. Often times, if they don't have good take-down defense and/or any BJJ/wrestling acumen, their pretty much a fish out of water.

If you fight a skilled olympic-style wrestler, you will have met your kryptonite, unless you've trained to handle wrestlers. While they might not beat you on the ground (unless they slam you on your head), they will certainly neutralize your threat and know how to get back up easily. Wrestlers won't submit me, but their exhausting to roll with. They just know how to manipulate their bodies and yours in such a way that makes BJJ feel more like a task than an art. You sometimes go fully on defense mode and find it futile.

I've always felt that the best combination to have are solid Muay Thai + BJJ + Wrestling skills. I am not too sure that the idea of getting a black belt in one and then slowly trying to become proficient in the others is necessarily the best approach either. I think a well balanced approach, with equal time dedicated to each will make you a more complete fighter/MMA practitioner. I believe that if someone is serious about their training and devotes at least 3 years of weekly training (3-4x/week) to these three disciplines or just trains at an MMA academy that integrates all 3, you can be good enough to handle yourself well against the vast majority of people and fighters that are not pro-level. I also believe that if you are well versed in all 3 of those, you can/will most likely take out an individual that has one-dimensional experience in just one of the arts.

Also, you can easily interchange muay thai for boxing, but as someone that trained in boxing for years, I would have loved to have truly developed leg strikes and the use of knees and elbows from an early age. As you get older, it won't be an opponents skull that hurts your elbow, but instead it will be a less obvious opponent, like arthritis.

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I would add this. Wrestlers don't know many submissions but they adapt to the submissions game quickly. What they have in real fight against a pure sport BJJ practitioner is their ground and pound. Facts are most BJJ hardly ever practice strikes or practice against an opponent with live striking practice. Being on your back looking for a submission is a completely different game when someone is punching away and no gi is used.

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Re: But but but I thought bjj was unbeatable
« Reply #92 on: May 03, 2019, 04:17:05 PM »
Whenever I see this "bjj" written,I think means some blowjob.

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Re: But but but I thought bjj was unbeatable
« Reply #93 on: May 06, 2019, 02:38:17 AM »
Indeed, but courage and Pride are not on shooting a gun, instead knowing how to defend yourself with bare hands

Courage and pride don’t count when someone bigger and better might kill you with his bare hands.

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Re: But but but I thought bjj was unbeatable
« Reply #94 on: May 06, 2019, 03:17:40 AM »
I would add this. Wrestlers don't know many submissions but they adapt to the submissions game quickly. What they have in real fight against a pure sport BJJ practitioner is their ground and pound. Facts are most BJJ hardly ever practice strikes or practice against an opponent with live striking practice. Being on your back looking for a submission is a completely different game when someone is punching away and no gi is used.

Also, generally speaking, wrestlers are better athletes and in better condition than BJJ practitioners. Their more aggressive style and getting the top position as well as controlling you using weight and body position, and not the gi, makes them more suited to MMA. And wrestling is run as a sport which is more Darwinian than BJJ which is run more like a business.

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Re: But but but I thought bjj was unbeatable
« Reply #95 on: May 06, 2019, 04:27:41 AM »
Also, generally speaking, wrestlers are better athletes and in better condition than BJJ practitioners. Their more aggressive style and getting the top position as well as controlling you using weight and body position, and not the gi, makes them more suited to MMA. And wrestling is run as a sport which is more Darwinian than BJJ which is run more like a business.

Im not into Jiu Jitsu myself, but what do you Mean "BJJ which is run like a Business"
Youre completely off here, Pellius.
There was a division many many years ago in the sport.
You should do your research before ssying those things...