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Spent a day in Havana Cuba recently
« on: May 03, 2019, 10:15:37 AM »
Anyone else visited Cuba?
I had the chance to go on an a cruise out of Tampa. Docked at 8am and had to be back on board by 1:30 am. It was one of those experiences that will definitely stay with me. The first impression from walking off the ship was of traveling back in time to the 60's. Almost every car was some kind of 50's model car. The architecture and condition of the buildings set the scene. We took a classic car tour in a convertible around the city. The people were friendly. I had filled a back pack with small toys like hot wheel cars, frisbees and inflatable beach balls. I had read that some children may have one toy. The reaction we got handing out the items were priceless. The $1 hot wheels car could have been the latest Xbox by the look on their face and appreciation. I didn't realize that I'd have to demonstrate a frisbee as many had never seen one. Or explain to an adult about the beach ball and how to inflate it. Things I hadn't really thought about. And as we walked the city, and people saw us hand out things to children, some would approach and instead of asking for money, would ask if we had any gum, or soap or shampoo. Truly a humbling experience. While we were told the salary for a Doctor is about $30 a month and a regular worker $16, people seemed happy, and took pride in their heritage. I definitely recommend it.       

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Re: Spent a day in Havana Cuba recently
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2019, 10:20:33 AM »
Anyone else visited Cuba?
I had the chance to go on an a cruise out of Tampa. Docked at 8am and had to be back on board by 1:30 am. It was one of those experiences that will definitely stay with me. The first impression from walking off the ship was of traveling back in time to the 60's. Almost every car was some kind of 50's model car. The architecture and condition of the buildings set the scene. We took a classic car tour in a convertible around the city. The people were friendly. I had filled a back pack with small toys like hot wheel cars, frisbees and inflatable beach balls. I had read that some children may have one toy. The reaction we got handing out the items were priceless. The $1 hot wheels car could have been the latest Xbox by the look on their face and appreciation. I didn't realize that I'd have to demonstrate a frisbee as many had never seen one. Or explain to an adult about the beach ball and how to inflate it. Things I hadn't really thought about. And as we walked the city, and people saw us hand out things to children, some would approach and instead of asking for money, would ask if we had any gum, or soap or shampoo. Truly a humbling experience. While we were told the salary for a Doctor is about $30 a month and a regular worker $16, people seemed happy, and took pride in their heritage. I definitely recommend it.       
My wife and I want to go its on my travel list ive been to so many places cuba is next
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Re: Spent a day in Havana Cuba recently
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2019, 10:23:33 AM »
Liberal paradise, etc...

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Re: Spent a day in Havana Cuba recently
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2019, 10:34:23 AM »
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Re: Spent a day in Havana Cuba recently
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2019, 10:41:52 AM »
Cuba=3rd world Country. Poor persons vacay.
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Re: Spent a day in Havana Cuba recently
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2019, 10:45:55 AM »
Anyone else visited Cuba?
I had the chance to go on an a cruise out of Tampa. Docked at 8am and had to be back on board by 1:30 am. It was one of those experiences that will definitely stay with me. The first impression from walking off the ship was of traveling back in time to the 60's. Almost every car was some kind of 50's model car. The architecture and condition of the buildings set the scene. We took a classic car tour in a convertible around the city. The people were friendly. I had filled a back pack with small toys like hot wheel cars, frisbees and inflatable beach balls. I had read that some children may have one toy. The reaction we got handing out the items were priceless. The $1 hot wheels car could have been the latest Xbox by the look on their face and appreciation. I didn't realize that I'd have to demonstrate a frisbee as many had never seen one. Or explain to an adult about the beach ball and how to inflate it. Things I hadn't really thought about. And as we walked the city, and people saw us hand out things to children, some would approach and instead of asking for money, would ask if we had any gum, or soap or shampoo. Truly a humbling experience. While we were told the salary for a Doctor is about $30 a month and a regular worker $16, people seemed happy, and took pride in their heritage. I definitely recommend it.       

"Seemed" is the right word.  I know many Cubans, some in my own family.  People in Cuba aren't happy, unless they're in the top level military and government.

"In 1959, the Cuban Revolution unleashed the largest refugee flow to the United States in history, with approximately 1.4 million people fleeing the island after the toppling of dictator Fulgencio Batista by Fidel Castro’s guerrilla fighters. Since then, Cuba has remained one of the top migrant-sending nations to its northern neighbor, and the Cuban exodus has been oriented primarily toward the mainland United States. In addition, at least 300,000 Cubans have relocated to Spain, Puerto Rico, Venezuela, Mexico, and other Latin American and Caribbean countries, as well as Canada and European nations such as Germany, Italy, and France."
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/cuban-migration-postrevolution-exodus-ebbs-and-flows

Very nice of you to come bearing gifts for them.  You are lucky you weren't harassed by the local police for doing that, "espia Americano repartiendo propaganda Capitalista."

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Re: Spent a day in Havana Cuba recently
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2019, 10:53:51 AM »

 The people were friendly. I had filled a back pack with small toys like hot wheel cars, frisbees and inflatable beach balls. I had read that some children may have one toy. The reaction we got handing out the items were priceless. The $1 hot wheels car could have been the latest Xbox by the look on their face and appreciation. I didn't realize that I'd have to demonstrate a frisbee as many had never seen one. Or explain to an adult about the beach ball and how to inflate it. Things I hadn't really thought about. And as we walked the city, and people saw us hand out things to children, some would approach an.       

This smells like a gringo tourist hustle.

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Re: Spent a day in Havana Cuba recently
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2019, 10:58:24 AM »
"Seemed" is the right word.  I know many Cubans, some in my own family.  People in Cuba aren't happy, unless they're in the top level military and government.

"In 1959, the Cuban Revolution unleashed the largest refugee flow to the United States in history, with approximately 1.4 million people fleeing the island after the toppling of dictator Fulgencio Batista by Fidel Castro’s guerrilla fighters. Since then, Cuba has remained one of the top migrant-sending nations to its northern neighbor, and the Cuban exodus has been oriented primarily toward the mainland United States. In addition, at least 300,000 Cubans have relocated to Spain, Puerto Rico, Venezuela, Mexico, and other Latin American and Caribbean countries, as well as Canada and European nations such as Germany, Italy, and France."
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/cuban-migration-postrevolution-exodus-ebbs-and-flows

Very nice of you to come bearing gifts for them.  You are lucky you weren't harassed by the local police for doing that, "espia Americano repartiendo propaganda Capitalista."

I certainly can't speak for the Cuban people and you are more than likely right. My wife speaks spanish and we chatted with many of the locals, some in casual park settings and most if not all spoke positively about the current government. Seemed to be happy with life. Granted, we didn't venture out of Havana but that was the impression we got. It certainly could be flawed.
 

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Re: Spent a day in Havana Cuba recently
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2019, 11:13:17 AM »
I certainly can't speak for the Cuban people and you are more than likely right. My wife speaks spanish and we chatted with many of the locals, some in casual park settings and most if not all spoke positively about the current government. Seemed to be happy with life. Granted, we didn't venture out of Havana but that was the impression we got. It certainly could be flawed.

LOL...that's because saying anything else will land them in a Cuban jail.  No such thing as free speech in Cuba.

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Re: Spent a day in Havana Cuba recently
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2019, 11:27:10 AM »
I certainly can't speak for the Cuban people and you are more than likely right. My wife speaks spanish and we chatted with many of the locals, some in casual park settings and most if not all spoke positively about the current government. Seemed to be happy with life. Granted, we didn't venture out of Havana but that was the impression we got. It certainly could be flawed.
 

Of course they would! Imagine if they were reported to the local political Commissar?

If they say anything negative about the regime or their poverty, they would be arrested or punished.

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Re: Spent a day in Havana Cuba recently
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2019, 11:36:16 AM »
Of course they would! Imagine if they were reported to the local political Commissar?

If they say anything negative about the regime or their poverty, they would be arrested or punished.

Ok.. seems a little over the top, but what do I know.

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Re: Spent a day in Havana Cuba recently
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2019, 11:48:26 AM »
Ok.. seems a little over the top, but what do I know.

About life in Cuba?  Very little apparently.

Have you watched the Netflix documentary "Cuba and the Cameraman"?

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Re: Spent a day in Havana Cuba recently
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2019, 11:56:14 AM »
About life in Cuba?  Very little apparently.

Have you watched the Netflix documentary "Cuba and the Cameraman"?

No, but I know in the US many things are crimes, and people still commit them. So chatting with people about your country and life, maybe some would be hesitant to tell the truth, but seems to me others might not be thinking a cop is around the corner listening or the people they are talking with are spies for the government. So human nature, I know a little bit about. It's human nature that if you hear something that doesn't fit your preconceived notion, you tend to come up with explanations that will allow you to keep your belief.  If you believe everyone in Cuba is miserable, and someone who has been there says they talked to some people who spoke fondly of their heritage and country, it would be normal to then say they only said that under duress.

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Re: Spent a day in Havana Cuba recently
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2019, 11:56:45 AM »
Cuba=3rd world Country. Poor persons vacay.

where was your last vacay?

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Re: Spent a day in Havana Cuba recently
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2019, 12:09:00 PM »
Ok.. seems a little over the top, but what do I know.

You do realise that Cuba is a Communist dictatorship and that they do have political Commissars?

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Re: Spent a day in Havana Cuba recently
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2019, 12:18:09 PM »
No, but I know in the US many things are crimes, and people still commit them. So chatting with people about your country and life, maybe some would be hesitant to tell the truth, but seems to me others might not be thinking a cop is around the corner listening or the people they are talking with are spies for the government. So human nature, I know a little bit about. It's human nature that if you hear something that doesn't fit your preconceived notion, you tend to come up with explanations that will allow you to keep your belief.  If you believe everyone in Cuba is miserable, and someone who has been there says they talked to some people who spoke fondly of their heritage and country, it would be normal to then say they only said that under duress.

Speaking fondly of their heritage and of their country is very different than being happy with life in the Island and feeling positive about their government.   Two completely different things.

And yes, everything you believe to be a little over the top is actually worse than you think.





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Re: Spent a day in Havana Cuba recently
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2019, 12:21:12 PM »
After reading the responses here, the Yanks that have devoured their gov’s koolaid regarding Cuba stick out like a sore thumb.  Lol.  May Trump bless ya!

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Re: Spent a day in Havana Cuba recently
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2019, 12:23:05 PM »
After reading the responses here, the Yanks that have devoured their gov’s koolaid regarding Cuba stick out like a sore thumb.  Lol.  May Trump bless ya!

I'm no Yank, and I get my information from Cubans who have lived or still live in Cuba.

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Re: Spent a day in Havana Cuba recently
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2019, 12:39:11 PM »
Anyone else visited Cuba?
I had the chance to go on an a cruise out of Tampa. Docked at 8am and had to be back on board by 1:30 am. It was one of those experiences that will definitely stay with me. The first impression from walking off the ship was of traveling back in time to the 60's. Almost every car was some kind of 50's model car. The architecture and condition of the buildings set the scene. We took a classic car tour in a convertible around the city. The people were friendly. I had filled a back pack with small toys like hot wheel cars, frisbees and inflatable beach balls. I had read that some children may have one toy. The reaction we got handing out the items were priceless. The $1 hot wheels car could have been the latest Xbox by the look on their face and appreciation. I didn't realize that I'd have to demonstrate a frisbee as many had never seen one. Or explain to an adult about the beach ball and how to inflate it. Things I hadn't really thought about. And as we walked the city, and people saw us hand out things to children, some would approach and instead of asking for money, would ask if we had any gum, or soap or shampoo. Truly a humbling experience. While we were told the salary for a Doctor is about $30 a month and a regular worker $16, people seemed happy, and took pride in their heritage. I definitely recommend it.       

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Re: Spent a day in Havana Cuba recently
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Re: Spent a day in Havana Cuba recently
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2019, 01:19:25 PM »
where was your last vacay?
Lake Oconee in GA where my wife son and I spent 5 days at the Ritz Carlton. Now take your piss poor cop pension and start spending your money wisely on therapy after you shit career as LE, Bitch!
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Re: Spent a day in Havana Cuba recently
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2019, 01:22:26 PM »
Anyone else visited Cuba?
I had the chance to go on an a cruise out of Tampa. Docked at 8am and had to be back on board by 1:30 am. It was one of those experiences that will definitely stay with me. The first impression from walking off the ship was of traveling back in time to the 60's. Almost every car was some kind of 50's model car. The architecture and condition of the buildings set the scene. We took a classic car tour in a convertible around the city. The people were friendly. I had filled a back pack with small toys like hot wheel cars, frisbees and inflatable beach balls. I had read that some children may have one toy. The reaction we got handing out the items were priceless. The $1 hot wheels car could have been the latest Xbox by the look on their face and appreciation. I didn't realize that I'd have to demonstrate a frisbee as many had never seen one. Or explain to an adult about the beach ball and how to inflate it. Things I hadn't really thought about. And as we walked the city, and people saw us hand out things to children, some would approach and instead of asking for money, would ask if we had any gum, or soap or shampoo. Truly a humbling experience. While we were told the salary for a Doctor is about $30 a month and a regular worker $16, people seemed happy, and took pride in their heritage. I definitely recommend it.        

yes.

Beaches are beautiful but the 5 star hotels are generally totally shit and smell of mould. Food isnt that great either
 nit the worst but gave me the shits. People are super friendly.

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Re: Spent a day in Havana Cuba recently
« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2019, 01:26:19 PM »
Lake Oconee in GA where my wife son and I spent 5 days at the Ritz Carlton. Now take your piss poor cop pension and start spending your money wisely on therapy after you shit career as LE, Bitch!

I have no dog in this fight, OP is generally a faggy libfuck and delusional to think Cuba (shithole) is a nice place.

However at least in California, the cops I know retire with like 90% of their 100k+ salary and another 500k in a 401k type account. Lifetime medical as well.

I know the ritz Carlton in buttfuck Georgia is pretty cool and all.

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Re: Spent a day in Havana Cuba recently
« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2019, 08:21:06 PM »
Lake Oconee in GA where my wife son and I spent 5 days at the Ritz Carlton. Now take your piss poor cop pension and start spending your money wisely on therapy after you shit career as LE, Bitch!

Georgia.. sounds nice...

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Re: Spent a day in Havana Cuba recently
« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2019, 08:36:15 PM »
Anyone else visited Cuba?
I had the chance to go on an a cruise out of Tampa. Docked at 8am and had to be back on board by 1:30 am. It was one of those experiences that will definitely stay with me. The first impression from walking off the ship was of traveling back in time to the 60's. Almost every car was some kind of 50's model car. The architecture and condition of the buildings set the scene. We took a classic car tour in a convertible around the city. The people were friendly. I had filled a back pack with small toys like hot wheel cars, frisbees and inflatable beach balls. I had read that some children may have one toy. The reaction we got handing out the items were priceless. The $1 hot wheels car could have been the latest Xbox by the look on their face and appreciation. I didn't realize that I'd have to demonstrate a frisbee as many had never seen one. Or explain to an adult about the beach ball and how to inflate it. Things I hadn't really thought about. And as we walked the city, and people saw us hand out things to children, some would approach and instead of asking for money, would ask if we had any gum, or soap or shampoo. Truly a humbling experience. While we were told the salary for a Doctor is about $30 a month and a regular worker $16, people seemed happy, and took pride in their heritage. I definitely recommend it.       
Cuba would be cool just because I'm a fan of their cigars. Have you spent a lot of time traveling all over the US?
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