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Steph curry and the playoffs
« on: May 05, 2019, 04:58:48 AM »
i called this months ago when some people here were saying he was better than jordan....the playoffs are a different beast and he cant handle the increased physicality, defence and pressure.You simpy cant judge the nba by its regular season, where players dont give a fuck on defence and are more interested in what club they are going to after the game.Only the playoffs matter in the nba.The regular season is just for franchises to make lots of money from ticket sales from meaningless games.





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Re: Steph curry and the playoffs
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2019, 06:57:30 AM »
Yes, I now have enough data to say Curry isn't clutch in the playoffs and he often falls short and disappears. He's not better than MJ and never will be. Great one of a kind player though.
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Re: Steph curry and the playoffs
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2019, 08:34:11 AM »
Yes, I now have enough data to say Curry isn't clutch in the playoffs and he often falls short and disappears. He's not better than MJ and never will be. Great one of a kind player though.

In the playoffs the game changes, d tightens up, players are much sharper, the game moves on to isolation play where players can control the shot clock and limit turnovers.No shock why jordan, duncan, durant , dirk, kobe etc excelled in the playoffs.

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Re: Steph curry and the playoffs
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2019, 08:38:13 AM »
People keep comparing the touch foul, zero fundamentals, right out of high school, no defense, set shot generation to...

 


It's getting really old.

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Re: Steph curry and the playoffs
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2019, 08:46:58 AM »
People keep comparing the touch foul, zero fundamentals, right out of high school, no defense, set shot generation to...

 


It's getting really old.

People dont understand the game.Scoring more than a 3rd of your teams points in general is counterproductive and kills any offensive flow.Similarly 2 players can average 30 points for a regular season but one of them can literally be twice the player the other is.Jerry stackhouses 30 point season 2000 vs jordans 28 point 1998 season.Its all about having the game in the playoffs whereby the opponents cannot cut off your game, being so skilled there is no drop off from regular season production and even improvement in the best.Every statistical category places jordan at the top.The top most mentioned per, jordan has the top reg season per and top playoff per.This recent video breaks down which playeds imprved most in the playoffs.No shock jordan came out top in the stats.7:35 for the jordan part.



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Re: Steph curry and the playoffs
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2019, 09:03:56 AM »
In the playoffs the game changes, d tightens up, players are much sharper, the game moves on to isolation play where players can control the shot clock and limit turnovers.No shock why jordan, duncan, durant , dirk, kobe etc excelled in the playoffs.

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Re: Steph curry and the playoffs
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2019, 12:03:54 AM »
Steph is the most selfless and second most underrated player in the game behind Klay.

Watch and see how the Warriors do better next year when KD leaves and the splash brothers go back to shining together.

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Re: Steph curry and the playoffs
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2019, 01:17:02 AM »
He’s not even better than Kobe

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Re: Steph curry and the playoffs
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2019, 07:02:08 AM »
Prime Jordan would ass rape curry and take his soul that lil bitch couldn’t handle the physical play of the 80s and 90 s

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Re: Steph curry and the playoffs
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2019, 07:11:40 AM »
I’ve never ever heard a comparison to Jordan.
Klay typically D’s up the better player anyways.

Has he changed the game of basketball, absolutely.

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Re: Steph curry and the playoffs
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2019, 07:36:29 AM »


Watch and see how the Warriors do better next year when KD leaves and the splash brothers go back to shining together.
Durant is their closer. They might be better recordwise because the team he goes to won't be as talented and there won't be a team like them around, but with him they have someone they can give the ball too and score with ease in the clutch.

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Re: Steph curry and the playoffs
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2019, 07:53:53 AM »
He’s not even better than Kobe

Neither is Lebron

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Re: Steph curry and the playoffs
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2019, 08:03:44 AM »
Neither is Lebron

Lebron was better than kobe.Only player thats ever been better than Lebron was Jordan.

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Re: Steph curry and the playoffs
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2019, 08:31:26 AM »
Lebron was better than kobe.Only player thats ever been better than Lebron was Jordan.

Negative. More rings, better d, clutch, better scorer, more of an impact player all around. Kobe is better and it's not really debatable.


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Re: Steph curry and the playoffs
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2019, 08:45:30 AM »
Negative. More rings, better d, clutch, better scorer, more of an impact player all around. Kobe is better and it's not really debatable.



Its definitely debatable.

Basketball remembers its stars better than reality records them as being.

Two great players but two totally different approaches to the game.

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Re: Steph curry and the playoffs
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2019, 08:52:53 AM »
Negative. More rings, better d, clutch, better scorer, more of an impact player all around. Kobe is better and it's not really debatable.



On what planet was kobe a better defender than lebron?On what planet was he more clutch than lebron?On what planet was he more impactful all around?I can provide stats that debunk your nonsense if you wish.Kobe was a great player, but he played in LA where everyone wanted to play and demanded stars like a petulant schoolboy and LA always gave in because he was their star moneymaker.

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Re: Steph curry and the playoffs
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2019, 09:14:17 AM »
On what planet was kobe a better defender than lebron?On what planet was he more clutch than lebron?On what planet was he more impactful all around?I can provide stats that debunk your nonsense if you wish.Kobe was a great player, but he played in LA where everyone wanted to play and demanded stars like a petulant schoolboy and LA always gave in because he was their star moneymaker.

Young Kobe was an ELITE defender, at one point there was talk that he was going to be a better defender than he was a scorer. Obviously that didn't happen, but at one time he was talked about as the leagues premier lock down specialist.

I know he was a great defender but was Lebron ever considered as that type of player?

I cant argue with your other points.

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Re: Steph curry and the playoffs
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2019, 09:22:37 AM »
Young Kobe was an ELITE defender, at one point there was talk that he was going to be a better defender than he was a scorer. Obviously that didn't happen, but at one time he was talked about as the leagues premier lock down specialist.

I know he was a great defender but was Lebron ever considered as that type of player?

I cant argue with your other points.

Kobe was an elite defender, lebron has been runner up for defensive player of the year multiple times, kobe hasnt.Lebron can literally guard 1-5, kobe 1-3.

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Re: Steph curry and the playoffs
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2019, 09:41:56 AM »
Kobe was an elite defender, lebron has been runner up for defensive player of the year multiple times, kobe hasnt.Lebron can literally guard 1-5, kobe 1-3.

Lol great points.

I forgot Lebron was an all world defender and if it wasnt for Dwight Howard he would have been DPOY. 

Its odd because when players are discussed I think of them as where they are in their career today and in the case of retired players who they were at their peak. That will skew my perspective.


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Re: Steph curry and the playoffs
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2019, 06:05:52 PM »
On what planet was kobe a better defender than lebron?On what planet was he more clutch than lebron?On what planet was he more impactful all around?I can provide stats that debunk your nonsense if you wish.Kobe was a great player, but he played in LA where everyone wanted to play and demanded stars like a petulant schoolboy and LA always gave in because he was their star moneymaker.

All that needs to be known about LeBron is his 2011 finals vs the Mavs.....

All those superstars on that team can’t even beat a German Dirk  8)

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Re: Steph curry and the playoffs
« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2019, 06:09:14 PM »
All that needs to be known about LeBron is his 2011 finals vs the Mavs.....

All those superstars on that team can’t even beat a German Dirk  8)

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Mavericks and offer the Pistons of Detroit.

Kobe, Shaq, Malone and Gary Payton vs Ben Wallace, Rasheed Wallace, Rip Hamilton,  Chauncey Billups and Tayshaun Prince.

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Re: Steph curry and the playoffs
« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2019, 06:36:42 PM »
I see your m
Mavericks and offer the Pistons of Detroit.

Kobe, Shaq, Malone and Gary Payton vs Ben Wallace, Rasheed Wallace, Rip Hamilton,  Chauncey Billups and Tayshaun Prince.

Mavs run was more impressive, got by the Trail Blazers , defending champs lakers, OKC, take a look at all those teams rosters at the time

And then Miami

All with one superstar in Dirk and a whole aging cast of 30+ year olds who weren’t even supposed to be in the play offs

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Re: Steph curry and the playoffs
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2019, 06:38:39 PM »
All that needs to be known about LeBron is his 2011 finals vs the Mavs.....

All those superstars on that team can’t even beat a German Dirk  8)

Literally every superstar ever has bombed out against teams they had a better seed against or had home court against, apart from 1 man, michael jordan, who never lost to an equal or lower seed and never lost with homecourt advantage.Bird, magic, shaq, kobe, lebron,hakeem,curry, durant,isiah,malone,barkley, etc have all lost when they should of won.

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Re: Steph curry and the playoffs
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2019, 06:59:30 PM »
Mavs run was more impressive, got by the Trail Blazers , defending champs lakers, OKC, take a look at all those teams rosters at the time

And then Miami

All with one superstar in Dirk and a whole aging cast of 30+ year olds who weren’t even supposed to be in the play offs

Who was the superstar from Detroit on par with Dirk, Ben Wallace? Was Ben a superstar?

That Mavs victory was impressive but there may have not been an actual team that won a championship without a true star like Detroit did.

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Re: Steph curry and the playoffs
« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2019, 07:09:12 PM »
Kobe was an elite defender, lebron has been runner up for defensive player of the year multiple times, kobe hasnt.Lebron can literally guard 1-5, kobe 1-3.


Yeah, he CAN guard 1-5 but when is the last time he actually did it like an elite defender?