Natural vs. Enhanced?

[SF1900]

Guy A and Guy B both have similar, if not, identical genetics.

Guy A: takes steroids, GH, and insulin, trains like shit and subpar diet.

Guy B: 100% natural, trains hard, eats 8 meals per day.

Two questions:

1) who has the  better chance of becoming huge and ripped?

2) who has the better chance of becoming an NPC level competitor or IFBB pro?

[Matt]

Guy A.

[ratherbebig]

i wonder why
i wonder how
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[SF1900]

Guy A.

Are you implying that PED's are more important than diet and training?

[Henda]

Guy A easily as long as he is doing some form of training even if it’s shit. A natural will never be huge and ripped at the same time, and no natural is ever competing as a pro or at npc level.

My honest experience with very mild steroid use is that it still completely obliterated natural training. I’d done the whole 6 meals per day shit when younger and test levels were at their peak naturally, going to bed early to get extra sleep ect, not saying it didn’t work but starting using just 250 to 300mg of test e per week at age 30 while paying fuck all attention to diet and eating like shit while still training hard was a massive eye opener.

[Coach is Back!]

Guy A and Guy B both have similar, if not, identical genetics.

Guy A: takes steroids, GH, and insulin, trains like shit and subpar diet.

Guy B: 100% natural, trains hard, eats 8 meals per day.

Two questions:

1) who has the  better chance of becoming huge and ripped?

2) who has the better chance of becoming an NPC level competitor or IFBB pro?

No such thing as a "natural" competing bodybuilder unless you consider GH/Insulin natural. Hope this helps. Lets start by saying eating 8 meals a day isn't normal or natural

[SF1900]

Guy A easily as long as he is doing some form of training even if it’s shit. A natural will never be huge and ripped at the same time, and no natural is ever competing as a pro or at npc level.

My honest experience with very mild steroid use is that it still completely obliterated natural training. I’d done the whole 6 meals per day shit when younger and test levels were at their peak naturally, going to bed early to get extra sleep ect, not saying it didn’t work but starting using just 250 to 300mg of test e per week at age 30 while paying fuck all attention to diet and eating like shit while still training hard was a massive eye opener.

So, basically, drugs are more important than diet and training, is what you're saying, especially when it comes to getting big and ripped and/or competing?

And, yes, your experience of mild steroid use speaks strongly to it being the main contributing factor.

[Royalty]

Guy A and Guy B both have similar, if not, identical genetics.

Guy A: takes steroids, GH, and insulin, trains like shit and subpar diet.

Guy B: 100% natural, trains hard, eats 8 meals per day.

Two questions:

1) who has the  better chance of becoming huge and ripped?

2) who has the better chance of becoming an NPC level competitor or IFBB pro?

You are obsessed with “Nattiness” vs Drug Monsters

[Henda]

So, basically, drugs are more important than diet and training, is what you're saying?

In my experience drugs worked far better than diet, I can’t compare training vs drugs on personal experience  as I trained the same on and off, although studies have suggested taking steroids and sitting on the couch leads to better gains than training naturally

[Coach is Back!]

You are obsessed with “Nattiness” vs Drug Monsters

Because he’s trolling

[che]

Guy A and Guy B both have similar, if not, identical genetics.

Guy A: takes steroids, GH, and insulin, trains like shit and subpar diet.

Guy B: 100% natural, trains hard, eats 8 meals per day.

Two questions:

1) who has the  better chance of becoming huge and ripped?

2) who has the better chance of becoming an NPC level competitor or IFBB pro?

Guy B  no doubt , I don't care how much gear you take , without proper training and nutrition you will never be able to compete in a bodybuilding show .

[Matt]

Are you implying that PED's are more important than diet and training?

Yes sir.

[IRON CROSS]

Guy A: is selling original Salvador Dali painting !.

Guy B: is selling a fake Dali painting !.

Which 1 would U buy  

[Bevo]

Guy A: is selling original Salvador Dali painting !.

Guy B: is selling a fake Dali painting !.

Which 1 would U buy  

Guy B cause it’s going to be cheaper and your friends wouldn’t know the difference

[IRON CROSS]

Guy B cause it’s going to be cheaper and your friends wouldn’t know the difference

I got more than 1 ( ) , not 4 sale !.

[robcguns]

Guy A: is selling original Salvador Dali painting !.

Guy B: is selling a fake Dali painting !.

Which 1 would U buy  

Neither,art is gay.

[IRON CROSS]

Neither,art is gay.

Only if is created by Prudence or ratherbefat 

[Schmoff]

No such thing as a "natural" competing bodybuilder unless you consider GH/Insulin natural. Hope this helps. Lets start by saying eating 8 meals a day isn't normal or natural

what?

this guy probably does not agree with you

[Coach is Back!]

what?

this guy probably does not agree with you

lol...never heard of him

[JuicedKangaroo]

what?

this guy probably does not agree with you

I've always wondered - why do people parade their 'natty status' like some pristine badge of honor? I don't get it, nobody gives a shit if you're natty and frankly if you are 100% natural, it's generally pretty obvious. Mr Olympia doesn't walk around calling themselves an 'enhanced athlete'. Never understood the whole 'fake natty' bullshit either, is it a perceived sense of moral superiority? I'm natural, but if I do cross the line and trod the dark path (which I expect to in a couple of years) I will proudly say what I'm on or for how long, should I be asked...

Edit: Yes my screen name is 'JuicedKangaroo' lol - foreshadowing the future...

[IroNat]

A guy on drugs will go by a natty like he's standing still.

[IroNat]

I've always wondered - why do people parade their 'natty status' like some pristine badge of honor? I don't get it, nobody gives a shit if you're natty and frankly if you are 100% natural, it's generally pretty obvious. Mr Olympia doesn't walk around calling themselves an 'enhanced athlete'. Never understood the whole 'fake natty' bullshit either, is it a perceived sense of moral superiority? I'm natural, but if I do cross the line and trod the dark path (which I expect to in a couple of years) I will proudly say what I'm on or for how long, should I be asked...

Edit: Yes my screen name is 'JuicedKangaroo' lol - foreshadowing the future...

Drugs are illegal so you're dumb if you "parade" your drug usage.  

Would you go "parade" your use of heroin or meth?  No, because it's illegal.

"Hey, I'm shooting heroin everyday!"

Bodybuilding has been bullshat since steroids were invented.

It's all a con to sucker people to buy useless supplements.

Take drugs to be the man you really aren't.  Shrink your balls until they don't work and you have to take TRT to stay a man.

Become the desire of every fag because women couldn't care less.

[hipolito mejia]

You get both bodybuilder to an expo and get be them each a booth .

The natural dude will b lucky if 5 or six people stop by.

The enhanced one will have a steady line of people  ( even if he's not a pro or really known ) with most people taking selfies with him.  

I've seen this happen often.  


That's the " sport " of bodybuilding.

[hipolito mejia]

Drugs are illegal so you're dumb if you "parade" your drug usage.  

Would go "parade" your use of heroin or meth?  No, because it's illegal.

"Hey, I'm shooting heroin everyday!"

Bodybuilding has been bullshat since steroids were invented.

It's all a con to sucker people to buy useless supplements.

Take drugs to be the man you really aren't.  Shrink your balls until they don't work and you have to take TRT to stay a man.

Become the desire of every fag because women couldn't care less.

I remember Jay cutler with a huge sign on a bus saying " this is what I take ".  Ok don't claim you're natural but selling fart power as what you "take"  when you're heavily enhanced for decades is nothing but a fraud.  

[Matt]

I remember Jay cutler with a huge sign on a bus saying " this is what I take ".  Ok don't claim you're natural but selling fart power as what you "take"  when you're heavily enhanced for decades is nothing but a fraud.  

Was that BPI?