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Re: This Epstein Case - Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide
« Reply #250 on: August 11, 2019, 09:07:26 AM »
THIN LIZZY said .. "I am buying into the Victoria’s Secret prostitution story. Pimping out Victoria’s Secret models to Rich guys sounds like a very solid business model."

I recently read that many of the VS models refute any prostitution connection (as expected) and they claim that the VS business treats them well (one photographer even got fired).

And someone said that Epstein, who was SOMEHOW involved within the VS business, was not interested beause they were too old.

Does anyone recall how and why EPSTEIN purchased that multi-million dollar NY mansion for the sum of $10.

I sorta-kinda recall that it had something to do with one individual by the name of  Leslie Wexner .... and that's another interesting story within this pedo Epstein saga.

NOTE .... VS will almost definitely be involved within this Epstein story but I personally THINK that WEXNER and the VS company will prove to be innocent in most respects .. if not all..

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Re: This Epstein Case - Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide
« Reply #251 on: August 11, 2019, 09:18:14 AM »
This one gets prettey damn envolved, so if anyone is interested I suggest you search ... Epstein and Leslie Wexler.

And here's a good start ...

Leslie Wexner, 81, is the founder and CEO of L Brands, a retail and fashion empire that includes Victoria’s Secret and Bath and Body Works.

He famously started the business in 1963 by borrowing money from his aunt and opening a store called the Limited, which specialized in inexpensive clothing. He took the company public in the 1980s, and today, according to Forbes, his net worth is $4.8 billion.

He hired Jeffrey Epstein and ......

If interested .... Search ... Jeffrey Eptein and Les Wexner ...... and learn about Epstein's Victoria Secret connection and how he 'purchased' a $70 million(+) mansion for $10 or less!

Too damn much to reprint here!

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Re: This Epstein Case - Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide
« Reply #252 on: August 11, 2019, 09:44:19 AM »
I just spoke to a retired gov agent (not my mailman) next door who states that all this seeming idiotic shit that is going on has been well planned by experts whose 'mission' is to get us thinkng exactly the way we're thinking.

 ???

Later! I'm off to rob a casino!


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Re: This Epstein Case - Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide
« Reply #253 on: August 11, 2019, 12:09:06 PM »

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Re: This Epstein Case - Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide
« Reply #254 on: August 11, 2019, 12:23:18 PM »
The shit is getting deeper.  Epstein had a cellmate.  The cellmate was transferred out before his suicide.   :-\

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/latest-official-tells-times-jail-broke-rules-epstein-64912266

A law enforcement source tells The New York Times financier Jeffrey Epstein was alone in his jail cell the night of his apparent suicide.

The Times spoke to the official on the condition of anonymity. The Associated Press has not independently confirmed the information.

An official with knowledge of the investigation told the Times that Epstein's cellmate was transferred. The official says the Justice Department was told Epstein would have a cellmate and be monitored by a guard every 30 minutes.

He was found unresponsive in his jail cell Saturday and the Bureau of Prisons says he was later pronounced dead of an apparent suicide.



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Re: This Epstein Case - Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide
« Reply #255 on: August 11, 2019, 12:24:38 PM »

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Re: This Epstein Case - Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide
« Reply #256 on: August 11, 2019, 12:39:29 PM »

Trump ready for some action..
His probably saying..
Where are the bitches...
I'm grabbing them from the pussy...


 ;D  ;D

LOL Yes


He was in the zone there


Ready to grab hordes of pussies
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Re: This Epstein Case - Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide
« Reply #257 on: August 11, 2019, 01:27:14 PM »
Add him to the list.  Ron Brown Vincent Foster. Susan Mcdugal husband.  And so on.


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Re: This Epstein Case - Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide
« Reply #259 on: August 11, 2019, 06:39:42 PM »

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Re: This Epstein Case - Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide
« Reply #260 on: August 11, 2019, 06:52:17 PM »
Just read Epstein was supposed to have a cellie and be checked every 30 minutes. Cellie was moved and guards didn't check. Their blaming it on the guards working overtime. WTF ???
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: This Epstein Case - Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide
« Reply #261 on: August 11, 2019, 08:18:55 PM »
LOL!

-An old rich pedo finally gets busted
-His rich friends abandon him for fear of connection
-Rich old pedo knows they have the goods on him time
-Rich old pedo hangs himself
-The end

No conspiracy. No Israeli involvement. No nothing.  Just the way it ends for pedos who get busted.

Carry on.
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Re: This Epstein Case - Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide
« Reply #262 on: August 11, 2019, 08:26:47 PM »
What could possibly be the reason behind the apparent efforts to make this look like a murder was planned and executed?!

Every 'clue' points to "MURDER, He Said" and makes it seem impossible that he actually done himself in.

It doth appear that someone wants us to believe that there is fowl play afoot.

We gotta look a this case up-side down or  possibly side-ways to uncover the truth and the reason why someone wants to make murder the obvious occurance.

Does anyone agree with what I'm trying to say??

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Re: This Epstein Case - Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide
« Reply #263 on: August 11, 2019, 08:30:28 PM »
What could possibly be the reason behind the apparent efforts to make this look like a murder was planned and executed?!

Every 'clue' points to "MURDER, He Said" and makes it seem impossible that he actually done himself in.

It doth appear that someone wants us to believe that there is fowl play afoot.

We gotta look a this case up-side down or  possibly side-ways to uncover the truth and the reason why someone wants to make murder the obvious occurance.

Does anyone agree with what I'm trying to say??


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Re: This Epstein Case - Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide
« Reply #264 on: August 11, 2019, 08:42:05 PM »
Tommy, You're probably right, but you're overlooking a number of 'clues' that are somewhat evident .

If it was my mission to kill this guy I would plan it almost exactly the way in which it occured.

And this is the first time in my life in which I have come close to be one of those conspiracy theory individuals  or to suspect an individual in high government office would commit such an act.

Call me dumb, bu I'd appreciate Loyal!


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Re: This Epstein Case - Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide
« Reply #265 on: August 12, 2019, 01:14:37 AM »
LOL!

-An old rich pedo finally gets busted
-His rich friends abandon him for fear of connection


Well, the first time he was convicted for soliciting a minor child for prostitution , "celebrity" not-so-rich friends, like Katie Couric, Charlie Rose, Woody Allen, Chelsea Handler and George Stephanopoulos.attended a small party(15-20 people) in his honour.  

It's bizarre. Maybe these media/entertainment types didn't have much of a choice.


https://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/sops/flyer.jsf?personId=62762

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-moved-freely-hollywood-circles-2008-conviction-1223336


And anyway, it seems in high society very few people gave a fuck if a rich man paid for sex with a teen. And that raises another question.
What was the real reason for his apparent downfall?

"No one in café society gives a damn that a 15-year-old girl gives massages," says one frequent charity-benefit guest.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/katie-couric-woody-allen-jeffrey-epsteins-society-friends-close-ranks



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No Israeli involvement.


Agree. For one thing ,Israel is an insignificant country. of 9 million ,that is 17/18 % Arab Muslim , situated 6000 miles away in the Middle East.

It's laughable the obsession many Americans have with that high tech ghetto.
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Re: This Epstein Case - Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide
« Reply #266 on: August 12, 2019, 02:25:04 AM »
Trump and Clinton supporters be like -


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Re: This Epstein Case - Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide
« Reply #267 on: August 12, 2019, 04:00:28 AM »


It’s funny that Trump is the one the media is stressing in these “high profile connections” type photos. It’s even on the BBC, a pic of Trump and the pedo.

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Re: This Epstein Case - Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide
« Reply #268 on: August 12, 2019, 04:02:41 AM »
It’s funny that Trump is the one the media is stressing in these “high profile connections” type photos. It’s even on the BBC, a pic of Trump and the pedo.

To be fair, theres barely anyone who is super famous or super rich that Trump has not met or taken photos with.Trump has been THE MAN since the early 80s.

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Re: This Epstein Case - Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide
« Reply #269 on: August 12, 2019, 06:14:29 AM »
To be fair, theres barely anyone who is super famous or super rich that Trump has not met or taken photos with.Trump has been THE MAN since the early 80s.

They changed the legal standard for Trump in the Russian hoax from not guilty to not exonerated. Why not do it in this case? If you’re in a photo with someone, you’re automatically liable for all of that person’s actions.

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Re: This Epstein Case - Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide
« Reply #270 on: August 12, 2019, 06:55:46 AM »
Now that he's gone, do you think that we will once more hear  ....."I did not have sexual elations with that ....."? in a US court of law???

Has an official decision been made to put this case at rest like the 2008 decision by Acosta ... or continue on and lock-up numerous pedos for 40 years each ... at least .... regardless of their personal wealth or political position.

And do you think that GB will do their own investigation regarding that s0-called prince and that woman of high society?

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Re: This Epstein Case - Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide
« Reply #271 on: August 12, 2019, 07:26:36 AM »
Anyone with a brain believes in conspiracy theories.

Does the right not believe the left conspired to peg Trump as a Russian agent?

Does the left not believe that Trump conspired with the Russians to steal the election?

Look at the first video below of pre-brain Tucker Carlson 7 years ago having abject hatred for "conspiracy theorist" Alex Jones. Realize that since Tucker Carlson has actually educated himself and delved deeper into more issues, he became on good terms with Alex Jones, went on his show, talks with him on the phone regularly, is his biggest defender, and hosts a show that has become a lot more like Alex Jones' program. Labeling someone a conspiracy theorist is the same weak non-argument similar to trying to shut someone down by calling them a "racist, sexist, homophobe, bigot..." The second video was from three years ago.

Before  5:35



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Re: This Epstein Case - Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide
« Reply #272 on: August 12, 2019, 09:08:11 AM »
Once again ... Sorry for the length of this post from Celebrity Net Worth .... but it gives those who may still be interested a good synopsis of Epstein's life  .... and questionable death.

Jeffrey Epstein was an American financier, sexual predator and convicted criminal who had a net worth of *at least* $500 million at the time of his death in August 2019.

His net worth could have been as high as $1 billion depending on the value his real estate portfolio and bank accounts. Jeffrey Epstein was born on January 20, 1953 in Brooklyn, New York.

He attended Lafayette High School and took classes at Cooper Union from 1969 to 1971 and then at the Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences, leaving without a degree.

From 1973 to 1975 he taught calculus and physics at the Dalton School, before becoming an options trader at Bear Stearns.

In 1980, Epstein became a partner at Bear Stearns.

In 1982, Epstein founded his own financial management firm, J. Epstein & Co.. The goal of the firm was to manage the assets of clients who have more than a billion dollars in net worth.

In 1987, Leslie Wexner, founder and chairman of Ohio-based The Limited chain of clothing stores became a well-known client, and the only client who was not anonymous.

Jeffrey was also rumored to have managed money for David Rockefeller.

In 1996, Epstein changed the name of his firm to The Financial Trust Company. For tax purposes he based the company on the island of St. Thomas in the U.S. Virgin Islands.

Unlike most hedge funds that simply invested client money, The Financial Trust Company aimed to plan every financial aspect of its clients' lives, from philanthropy to tax planning.

Epstein's demands when managing a client's money were far steeper than other hedge funds. He would require that clients give him full control over the money invested, with a minimum of $1 billion.

Investors have no options on how the money is invested. He would charge a flat fee for managing the money instead of taking a percentage of the gains.

He reportedly earned $100 million per year at the peak of his power. He also had power of attorney to do whatever he thought was necessary to help the client's finances.

Amazingly, Epstein would decline clients with less than $1 billion. Even if someone came to him with $500 million ready to invest, he reportedly turn them away. His firm reportedly managed more than $15 billion at one time.

Epstein has been extremely successful managing money and at the time of his death had a MINIMUM net worth of $500 million. His net worth very likely topped $1 billion.

He owned lavish properties around the world including a $12 million villa in Palm Beach, Florida, a 78-acre private island in the Caribbean called Little St. James Island, an apartment in Paris, France, a 10,000-acre ranch in Stanley, New Mexico, south of Santa Fe.

 The New Mexico house has a 26,700-square-foot hilltop mansion. The Caribbean home at one point employed a full-time staff of 70. His New York mansion has been described as the largest private residence in Manhattan. It is a 50,000 square-foot, nine-story mansion that is worth at least $77 million.

Jeffrey Epstein previously owned a Boeing 727 private jet that the media nicknamed "the Lolita Express" due to his alleged interactions with underage girls.
 
At the beginning of 2019 he owned TWO Gulfstream private jets. He sold one of them in July 2019.

In 2019 Federal authorities looking to seize his assets would note that Epstein owns at least 15 vehicles including seven Chevy Suburbans.

In 2003 he attempted to buy New York magazine but ultimately lost out to Bruce Wasserstein who paid $55 million.

In 2004 Epstein and New York Daily News publisher Mortimer Zuckerman spent $25 million to launch celebrity news website Radar.com.

Jeffrey Epstein had been known to be friendly with Presidents Bill Clinton and Donald Trump.

Flight logs would later show that Bill Clinton reportedly flew on Epstein's private jet at least 26 times.

In March 2004, a woman came forward to the the Palm Beach Police Department accusing the financier of paying her $300 to strip for him when she was 14 years old.

After an 11 month investigation into Epstein, police accused Epstein of paying several escorts to perform sexual acts on him.

Several of the alleged victims were allegedly under the age of 18 when the acts occurred.

According to the International Business Times he also allegedly loaned girls to powerful friends. It has been alleged that Prince Andrew, Duke of York was one of the powerful friends.

In 2008, he served 13 months in jail of an 18-month sentence as a convicted sex offender in the state of Florida for soliciting an underage girl for prostitution. He was also ordered to register as a sex offender.

On July 6, 2019 Epstein was arrested after his private jet landed in New Jersey on its way back from Paris.

Court documents alleged that Epstein brought 40 underage girls to his mansions for sexual encounters.

Further court documents released as part of his bail proceedings alleged that a financial analysis proved that Epstein had a net worth of at least $500 million.

Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide in his jail cell on August 10, 2019. He had attempted suicide several weeks earlier. He was 66 years old.

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Re: This Epstein Case - Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide
« Reply #273 on: August 12, 2019, 09:16:18 AM »
I should add that Epstein's 13 month jail time as mentioned above  consisted of a 12 hour per day release period so that he could continue his work in his office.

And Acosta agreed to this.


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Re: This Epstein Case - Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide
« Reply #274 on: August 12, 2019, 10:43:44 AM »
I should add that Epstein's 13 month jail time as mentioned above  consisted of a 12 hour per day release period so that he could continue his work in his office.

And Acosta agreed to this.



I don't know for certain what happened. At this point few do but here's my guess

He tried to off himself a few weeks ago though he claimed he was assaulted. No one believed that happened. He was placed on suicide watch as a precaution. His subsequent behavior and statements to his jailers and jail psychiatrist may have indicated suicide watch wasn't needed. At his first opportunity he finished the job. I know of dozens of cases where people facing serious charges with substantial evidence have killed themselves rather than face the prospect of an embarrassing humiliating trial and or lengthy prison sentences. 

For it to be a murder, people would need to be paid off, more than one, which poses a risk for those doing the paying. Then the person or persons who likely had a career at the facility would need to kill him. Pretty lucky for the mystery person to find those people and know they will keep quiet. While there are no cameras being reported in the cell, it is reported that every inch of the facility is covered in cameras so then there is manipulating recording which I suspect has safeguards against it. So while it's not impossible that he was murdered Occams Razor comes into play. If there are two explanations available,  the one that requires the least amount of speculation is usually correct.