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Whos stronger? Specifically leg training
« on: September 27, 2019, 08:10:41 AM »
Recently had a lower back injury tweak from a combo of too much food and not enough water

I felt i was making good progress with full body training every day. Legs always during morning

I dont have a squat rack so its bit more awkward hoisting the weight ... Anyways i can do 2 to 3 sets of 155 for 15 good reps hitting 15 on each set

After injury heres my new workout
1st set lunges with just 45 pounds i do 40 to 45 reps
2nd set lunges with 90 pound i get 18 to 20
I do cardio and jumping too but i dont factor it in


Question is if you cant squat every day then u get a hypothetical 0 for 6 potential leg day. Lets say u do legs once a week 135 for 15 then 225 15reps then 275 for 8 reps. So basically this person is weaker correct thus will be smaller even though they bested me on 1 workout
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Re: Whos stronger?
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2019, 08:13:01 AM »
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Re: Whos stronger? Specifically leg training
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2019, 09:10:07 AM »
You hurt your back by eating too much and not drinking enough water?

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Could training full-body everyday be a factor?

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Re: Whos stronger? Specifically leg training
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2019, 10:00:20 AM »
Recently had a lower back injury tweak from a combo of too much food and not enough water

I felt i was making good progress with full body training every day. Legs always during morning

I dont have a squat rack so its bit more awkward hoisting the weight ... Anyways i can do 2 to 3 sets of 155 for 15 good reps hitting 15 on each set



Bro- People make awesome squat and power racks out of wood. Surprised you haven't done that!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-pONy9A1vrmc/VLVyE5q8HEI/AAAAAAAAAFI/FcrybHXJL0U/s1600/20150109_163200.jpg

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Re: Whos stronger? Specifically leg training
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2019, 10:18:33 AM »
Recently had a lower back injury tweak from a combo of too much food and not enough water

I felt i was making good progress with full body training every day. Legs always during morning

I dont have a squat rack so its bit more awkward hoisting the weight ... Anyways i can do 2 to 3 sets of 155 for 15 good reps hitting 15 on each set

After injury heres my new workout
1st set lunges with just 45 pounds i do 40 to 45 reps
2nd set lunges with 90 pound i get 18 to 20
I do cardio and jumping too but i dont factor it in


Question is if you cant squat every day then u get a hypothetical 0 for 6 potential leg day. Lets say u do legs once a week 135 for 15 then 225 15reps then 275 for 8 reps. So basically this person is weaker correct thus will be smaller even though they bested me on 1 workout


I was just this morning whining about my skinny wheels in another thread. In past photos, your leg development was admirable. Is this still true? Which leg routines do you credit for your leg size?

You need to get a squat rack. The energy you use to hoist the weight from the floor up to your shoulders must impact how much you can squat. I almost exclusively use equipment that can be resistance loaded and which controls the movement when doing squats. For me, it has nothing to do with my back, which is fine. It is because my grip stinks due to arthritis which makes me fear dropping the weight. When using a machine, I feel like I can be much more aggressive doing the exercise. Presently, I am exclusively doing front squats.

   

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Re: Whos stronger? Specifically leg training
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2019, 11:06:56 AM »
You hurt your back by eating too much and not drinking enough water?

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Could training full-body everyday be a factor?
the bouyancy of joints and disks are very critical. When my back has gone out its at the start of a workout with no warning signs at all

By not training everyday i cant gauge progress you see. I try to avoid a false progress , meaning if i take a week off surely i will be able to lift more weight the first workout because of 6 days rest.. But its an illusion due to the muscle being super compensated with fat protein and glucose.... I would be fatter also from the lack of training since i dont restrict calories

Kinda like fat strong high school kids who barely train but are very strong , the muscle will stay if calories are there but they continue to b fat unless a freak
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Re: Whos stronger? Specifically leg training
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2019, 11:10:22 AM »
Bro- People make awesome squat and power racks out of wood. Surprised you haven't done that!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-pONy9A1vrmc/VLVyE5q8HEI/AAAAAAAAAFI/FcrybHXJL0U/s1600/20150109_163200.jpg
I know bro , its annoying hoisting up the weight but im still getting the desired effect , i just do high reps cause i cant pick up 225 off ground and put it on my shoulders
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Re: Whos stronger? Specifically leg training
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2019, 11:12:15 AM »
I love the Falcon but I sometimes wonder why I still click on his threads!   LOL  ;D

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Re: Whos stronger? Specifically leg training
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2019, 11:14:52 AM »
I was just this morning whining about my skinny wheels in another thread. In past photos, your leg development was admirable. Is this still true? Which leg routines do you credit for your leg size?

You need to get a squat rack. The energy you use to hoist the weight from the floor up to your shoulders must impact how much you can squat. I almost exclusively use equipment that can be resistance loaded and which controls the movement when doing squats. For me, it has nothing to do with my back, which is fine. It is because my grip stinks due to arthritis which makes me fear dropping the weight. When using a machine, I feel like I can be much more aggressive doing the exercise. Presently, I am exclusively doing front squats.

   

My quads are genetic  but not good calves , i cant jump high but i feel im a good runner

Are u going vegan bro?

That machine would be great!

Every leg routine must have squats and or lunges absolutely cant beat it
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Re: Whos stronger? Specifically leg training
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2019, 11:15:58 AM »
I love the Falcon but I sometimes wonder why I still click on his threads!   LOL  ;D
You know who your leader is bro 👌
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Re: Whos stronger? Specifically leg training
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2019, 11:19:03 AM »
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Re: Whos stronger? Specifically leg training
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2019, 12:49:17 PM »
the bouyancy of joints and disks are very critical. When my back has gone out its at the start of a workout with no warning signs at all

By not training everyday i cant gauge progress you see. I try to avoid a false progress , meaning if i take a week off surely i will be able to lift more weight the first workout because of 6 days rest.. But its an illusion due to the muscle being super compensated with fat protein and glucose.... I would be fatter also from the lack of training since i dont restrict calories

Kinda like fat strong high school kids who barely train but are very strong , the muscle will stay if calories are there but they continue to b fat unless a freak

Nothing lasts forever. The same fat that makes some high school kids strong will eventually do the opposite. I know people who carted around extra weight for so long that it eventually destroyed their health. Some actually wind up using motorized wheel chairs to get around. Where did the youthful strength go?

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Re: Whos stronger? Specifically leg training
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2019, 12:51:37 PM »
My quads are genetic  but not good calves , i cant jump high but i feel im a good runner

Are u going vegan bro?

That machine would be great!

Every leg routine must have squats and or lunges absolutely cant beat it

I'm not a vegan yet. However, I switched to pea protein instead of whey. It seems to work just fine.

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Re: Whos stronger? Specifically leg training
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2019, 02:18:58 PM »
I love the Falcon but I sometimes wonder why I still click on his threads!   LOL  ;D

We all do, but sometimes he is just soaring too high in the stratosphere. :)
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Re: Whos stronger? Specifically leg training
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2019, 02:31:39 PM »
We all do, but sometimes he is just soaring too high in the stratosphere. :)
How stupid of me not to realize that simple observation.

I`m a real dumbass at times.

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« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2019, 03:24:05 PM »
How stupid of me not to realize that simple observation.

I`m a real dumbass at times.
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Re: Whos stronger? Specifically leg training
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2019, 03:35:26 PM »
Do pistols and bulgarian squats. There's dynamics like plyos and weighted jumps.

We get told so often that the barbell back squat is the most important thing in the history of the world and should comprise 96% of your time that guys neglect movements that translate better to life outside the gym. Wheres the explosiveness. Where's the balance and body awareness. Imo a lot of time training the squat makes you good at doing the squat. When's the last time you were walking around in the world and had to execute that movement?

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Re: Whos stronger? Specifically leg training
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2019, 04:31:28 PM »
Do pistols and bulgarian squats. There's dynamics like plyos and weighted jumps.

We get told so often that the barbell back squat is the most important thing in the history of the world and should comprise 96% of your time that guys neglect movements that translate better to life outside the gym. Wheres the explosiveness. Where's the balance and body awareness. Imo a lot of time training the squat makes you good at doing the squat. When's the last time you were walking around in the world and had to execute that movement?

Every time I travel I incorporate squats. Hours of driving down the highway or sitting on one of those horribly uncomfortable seats in an airplane is much more bearable if you periodically do a dozen or so body weight squats. The aisle between the rows of seats is roomy enough to use and when driving, do squats whenever you stop for gas or food is easy peasy. 

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Re: Whos stronger?
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2019, 04:52:31 PM »
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Re: Whos stronger? Specifically leg training
« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2019, 04:57:37 PM »
stfu wes its still all there just coded and waiting for you , when you go vegan ill memo the gods
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