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Re: Bodybuilding Hit the Wall 20 Years Ago.
« Reply #75 on: November 21, 2019, 12:50:26 PM »
Yates and the judges colluded many times. Yates only actually win 3 Sandows fairly.

He won all fairly. Did he cheat?

a few of his victories were debatable. 94 and 97 could have easily gone against him

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Re: Bodybuilding Hit the Wall 20 Years Ago.
« Reply #76 on: November 21, 2019, 02:52:35 PM »
Yates and the judges colluded many times. Yates only actually win 3 Sandows fairly.

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Re: Bodybuilding Hit the Wall 20 Years Ago.
« Reply #77 on: November 21, 2019, 02:57:40 PM »
Holy shit someone cracked out the Sharma gimmick , last posts before today , 2011  :o Who is it? SF1900

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Re: Bodybuilding Hit the Wall 20 Years Ago.
« Reply #78 on: November 21, 2019, 03:03:39 PM »
Absolute crap, the sport peaked in 93 with Yates every winner prior and after has been below this standard, it isn't my perfect mix for bodybuilding either, I prefer the older more classic look. But Yates on this day was unbeatable he had mass condition and symmetry. I have seen them all win live, Coleman, Cutler, Heath, none of them come near to yates 93, Ronnie for pure size, but never condition at that level, it had to be seen to be believed and he never looked that good again, good enough to beat everyone else, but never his 93 shape.

Nasser looked like he was in the NPC los angeles novice from the rear, side and front right up there if you ignored the obvious site stuff in his delts arms and calves but he never bothered anyone overall, sim,liar to Strydom could have been anything till he turned around.

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Re: Bodybuilding Hit the Wall 20 Years Ago.
« Reply #79 on: November 21, 2019, 03:19:00 PM »
Absolute crap, the sport peaked in 93 with Yates every winner prior and after has been below this standard, it isn't my perfect mix for bodybuilding either, I prefer the older more classic look. But Yates on this day was unbeatable he had mass condition and symmetry. I have seen them all win live, Coleman, Cutler, Heath, none of them come near to yates 93, Ronnie for pure size, but never condition at that level, it had to be seen to be believed and he never looked that good again, good enough to beat everyone else, but never his 93 shape.

Nasser looked like he was in the NPC los angeles novice from the rear, side and front right up there if you ignored the obvious site stuff in his delts arms and calves but he never bothered anyone overall, sim,liar to Strydom could have been anything till he turned around.


This x2
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Re: Bodybuilding Hit the Wall 20 Years Ago.
« Reply #80 on: November 21, 2019, 04:14:06 PM »
Absolute crap, the sport peaked in 93 with Yates every winner prior and after has been below this standard, it isn't my perfect mix for bodybuilding either, I prefer the older more classic look. But Yates on this day was unbeatable he had mass condition and symmetry. I have seen them all win live, Coleman, Cutler, Heath, none of them come near to yates 93, Ronnie for pure size, but never condition at that level, it had to be seen to be believed and he never looked that good again, good enough to beat everyone else, but never his 93 shape.

Nasser looked like he was in the NPC los angeles novice from the rear, side and front right up there if you ignored the obvious site stuff in his delts arms and calves but he never bothered anyone overall, sim,liar to Strydom could have been anything till he turned around.

Yates in person was hard to explain to people.  Saw him guest pose at a show once.  Holy F.

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Re: Bodybuilding Hit the Wall 20 Years Ago.
« Reply #81 on: November 21, 2019, 04:15:03 PM »
Absolute crap, the sport peaked in 93 with Yates every winner prior and after has been below this standard, it isn't my perfect mix for bodybuilding either, I prefer the older more classic look. But Yates on this day was unbeatable he had mass condition and symmetry. I have seen them all win live, Coleman, Cutler, Heath, none of them come near to yates 93, Ronnie for pure size, but never condition at that level, it had to be seen to be believed and he never looked that good again, good enough to beat everyone else, but never his 93 shape.

Nasser looked like he was in the NPC los angeles novice from the rear, side and front right up there if you ignored the obvious site stuff in his delts arms and calves but he never bothered anyone overall, sim,liar to Strydom could have been anything till he turned around.

everyone says Dorian's conditioning was out of this world

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Re: Bodybuilding Hit the Wall 20 Years Ago.
« Reply #82 on: November 21, 2019, 11:32:56 PM »
Yates in person was hard to explain to people.  Saw him guest pose at a show once.  Holy F.

Yes - Correct
Dorian really did have to be seen to be believed

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Re: Bodybuilding Hit the Wall 20 Years Ago.
« Reply #83 on: November 21, 2019, 11:44:40 PM »
Absolute crap, the sport peaked in 93 with Yates every winner prior and after has been below this standard, it isn't my perfect mix for bodybuilding either, I prefer the older more classic look. But Yates on this day was unbeatable he had mass condition and symmetry. I have seen them all win live, Coleman, Cutler, Heath, none of them come near to yates 93, Ronnie for pure size, but never condition at that level, it had to be seen to be believed and he never looked that good again, good enough to beat everyone else, but never his 93 shape.

Nasser looked like he was in the NPC los angeles novice from the rear, side and front right up there if you ignored the obvious site stuff in his delts arms and calves but he never bothered anyone overall, sim,liar to Strydom could have been anything till he turned around.
X 3 good post.

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Re: Bodybuilding Hit the Wall 20 Years Ago.
« Reply #84 on: November 22, 2019, 12:04:20 AM »
I saw Yates guest pose in Belfast in April of 93.  He was in off-season condition and absolutely colossal.

What stood out for me was the size of his forearms whilst sitting signing pictures I'm the lobby.  The muscle hanging from them was ridiculous.  Like thighs.

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Re: Bodybuilding Hit the Wall 20 Years Ago.
« Reply #85 on: November 23, 2019, 11:19:41 AM »
I saw Yates guest pose in Belfast in April of 93.  He was in off-season condition and absolutely colossal.

What stood out for me was the size of his forearms whilst sitting signing pictures I'm the lobby.  The muscle hanging from them was ridiculous.  Like thighs.


I remember shaking his hand one time and being amazed at the amount of muscle you could feel in his palm.  He didn't try to 'power-squueze' or anything like that, just a normal grip - but the pad of muscle was very noticeable... Maybe this is a normal thing for top Pro's/people who pull big numbers..?


everyone says Dorian's conditioning was out of this world

He certainly seemed to have thin skin from the stalls of the British Grand Prix!


Interdasting bit of cross-thread-pollination from the Titus thread may be relevant here.  Taken from one of the articles Titus wrote for IronMag (a GetBigger who very kindly posted links to the archive)

"I have had discussions about AAS use with them and I have even worked with Dorian Yates preparing for the 2001 Mr. Olympia. Incidentally Dorian’s PED regimen almost killed me after following his instructions to use extreme dosages of the diuretic Demandex… putting me in the hospital shortly after the competition."

http://www.ironmagazine.com/2015/titus-talks-55/



He is of course referring to Demadex (Torsemide)  Wonder what qualified as 'extreme dosages'..?
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Re: Bodybuilding Hit the Wall 20 Years Ago.
« Reply #86 on: November 25, 2019, 08:01:29 PM »

Wrong again. Ronnie placed top 6 in 1996 and he was judged fairly he won the contest and he was called out 9 times in the first round

False equivalence. The only pose that hurts Dorian's torn biceps is the front double biceps. He could easily lose this pose ( and probably did ) and a couple of other and still win the contest ( which he did ) you'd know this if you knew how contests are judged. And we're talking about female breasts on the greatest male bodybuilder on the planet  ::)

See above.

I could post pictures but you would still come to your same ignorant biased conclusion. But you get the point , wait no you don't lol


Oh I do see a clear winner and it isn't pregnant bitch-tits

ronnie "placed top 6" only after nasser was disqualified in 96

so you can't find pics of 93 flex looking better than 98 ronnie, just as i thought

ronnie's puffy nipples destroy any version of flex especially the tiny overrated 93 version, it is not a debate to anybody other than fanboys like yourself, in fact 93 flex wouldn't even be top 6 at 98 olympia

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Re: Bodybuilding Hit the Wall 20 Years Ago.
« Reply #87 on: November 25, 2019, 08:03:35 PM »
Same shit you see what you want. Phil best of his generation but his generation is ho-hum.


Phil is heavier , Flex had no problem beating heavier guys. harder?  ::) no he's not. What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. And more complete? elaborate? what muscles does Phil have that Flex doesn't?

Neither have the best structure, Phil looks like 6 pounds of sugar stuffed in a 5 pound bag. Flex is better proportioned in my opinion. Flex would simply collect more poses and speaking of that , Flex knows how to pose and present his physique. Phil throws up shots and makes stupid faces  ::)

post the pics of 93 flex looking better than phil during his prime years, i'm waiting...

what does phil have that flex didn't?  EVERYTHING

better arms, quads, chest, calves, forerms and WAY BETTER back, hams and glutes

i posted pics, where are yours????

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Re: Bodybuilding Hit the Wall 20 Years Ago.
« Reply #88 on: November 25, 2019, 08:07:14 PM »
Kevin beat him in 2002 although they gave the contest to Ronnie. Kevin won the entire prejudging and that was the meat & potatoes of the contest and the nightshow was for the fans. Maybe Phil would beat Ronnie 2002 , Ronnie was that bad. but Kevin wasn't that spectacular either. but a prime Ronnie, Phil isn't touching him , no way , no how.

no Mr. Levrone did not win, and you know that breaks my heart  ;D

he won the night show, not the prejudging

yes phil would beat 2002 ronnie

only prime ronnie would beat phil, that's it that's the list

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Re: Bodybuilding Hit the Wall 20 Years Ago.
« Reply #89 on: November 25, 2019, 08:08:12 PM »
Yates and the judges colluded many times. Yates only actually win 3 Sandows fairly.

sharma?  it's 2007 all over again haha ;D

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