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Legalize it. And, before you ask, I do not smoke weed.

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Legalize it.

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At the same time the government is trying to discourage smoking tobacco - and outright banning smoking in many public places- they want to add smoking pot to the repertoire. You gotta love the hypocrisy. ;D

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At the same time the government is trying to discourage smoking tobacco - and outright banning smoking in many public places- they want to add smoking pot to the repertoire. You gotta love the hypocrisy. ;D

How is this hypocritical? 

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How is this hypocritical? 

While the government is attempting to stop people from smoking or inhaling (tobacco), they want to legalize another way of smoking (pot).

Contrast the move to ban on flavored E cigarettes over fears young people will get addicted:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/sep/12/juul-vaping-ban-fda-youth-fears-e-cigarettes-

"The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is considering a ban on flavored e-cigarettes in response to what it warned is an “epidemic” of young people using the devices and getting hooked on nicotine"

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But marijuana arguably isn't even physically addictive. Even if you want to argue that it is addictive, it's nowhere near as addictive as nicotine and it's side effects are nowhere near as extreme as those of cigarettes and alcohol.  Marijuana can be used medicinally. I don't think there's any medicinal purpose for nicotine. There are hard statistics tying large numbers of deaths to alcohol and tobacco use. That's not the case for marijuana.

It's more hypocritical that marijuana has been vilified as this horrible gateway drug for years when big tobacco and alcohol wreak way more havoc.

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Booze is far worse

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While the government is attempting to stop people from smoking or inhaling (tobacco), they want to legalize another way of smoking (pot).

Contrast the move to ban on flavored E cigarettes over fears young people will get addicted:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/sep/12/juul-vaping-ban-fda-youth-fears-e-cigarettes-

"The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is considering a ban on flavored e-cigarettes in response to what it warned is an “epidemic” of young people using the devices and getting hooked on nicotine"
vapeing is 95% safer than smoking the only so called drug in vape juice is nicotine and that's so former smokers can quit cigarettes
There are 4000 chemicals in every cigarette. Tobacco smoke also contains over 4,000 chemicals, many of which are known causes of cancer. Just a few of these chemicals are: • Carbon Monoxide (found in car exhaust) • Arsenic (rat poison) • Ammonia (found in window cleaner) • Acetone (found in nail polish remover)

Our government is trying to stop vaping because they are losing money that most states get every year from the cigarette companies ......Tobacco Companies Pay $9 Billion Compensations On April 15 ..

April 15 is the day when the five largest tobacco companies pay US$9 billion dollars to state governments, each and every year, forever. And they pay a percentage of gross sale so low sales less money they have to pay...........so its all hypocrisy
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This is great news if it happens. It should be taxed, and handled like alcohol and tobacco, and leave it at that.  

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So the whole idea about trying to save our youth from vaping is all bullshit if they cared about our youth ban cigarettes but that will never happen because how would they line there pockets now they found a new way to make money off of weed so im sure they can care less if it gets into the hands of our youth...
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So the whole idea about trying to save our youth from vaping is all bullshit if they cared about our youth ban cigarettes but that will never happen because how would they line there pockets now they found a new way to make money off of weed so im sure they can care less if it gets into the hands of our youth...

But actual cigarettes are banned for youth. These vaping are incredibly popular and easy to obtain among kids.

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It's legal here in Canada. I wasn't into pot but over the past 6-7 months I've grown to love it.  It's definitely a bodybuilder friendly thing. I sometimes have an edible before training, love it. I do half doses though so I feel subtle affects rather that being really high.


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vapeing is 95% safer than smoking the only so called drug in vape juice is nicotine and that's so former smokers can quit cigarettes
There are 4000 chemicals in every cigarette. Tobacco smoke also contains over 4,000 chemicals, many of which are known causes of cancer. Just a few of these chemicals are: • Carbon Monoxide (found in car exhaust) • Arsenic (rat poison) • Ammonia (found in window cleaner) • Acetone (found in nail polish remover)

Our government is trying to stop vaping because they are losing money that most states get every year from the cigarette companies ......Tobacco Companies Pay $9 Billion Compensations On April 15 ..

April 15 is the day when the five largest tobacco companies pay US$9 billion dollars to state governments, each and every year, forever. And they pay a percentage of gross sale so low sales less money they have to pay...........so its all hypocrisy


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What's In a Cigarette?
There are approximately 600 ingredients in cigarettes. When burned, cigarettes create more than 7,000 chemicals. At least 69 of these chemicals are known to cause cancer, and many are toxic.

Many of these chemicals also are found in consumer products, but these products have warning labels—such as rat poison packaging. While the public is warned about the danger of the poisons in these products, there is no such warning for the toxins in tobacco smoke.

Here are a few of the chemicals in tobacco smoke and other places they are found:

Acetone—found in nail polish remover
Acetic acid—an ingredient in hair dye
Ammonia—a common household cleaner
Arsenic—used in rat poison
Benzene—found in rubber cement and gasoline
Butane—used in lighter fluid
Cadmium—active component in battery acid
Carbon monoxide—released in car exhaust fumes
Formaldehyde—embalming fluid
Hexamine—found in barbecue lighter fluid
Lead—used in batteries
Naphthalene—an ingredient in mothballs
Methanol—a main component in rocket fuel
Nicotine—used as an insecticide
Tar—material for paving roads
Toluene—used to manufacture paint
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But actual cigarettes are banned for youth. These vaping are incredibly popular and easy to obtain among kids.
so is vaping its 21 to buy vape products what the kids are getting is the juul from gas stations not vape stores. and don't kid yourself most people who smoke today smoked when they were underage vaping wont kill you cigs do
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What's In a Cigarette?
There are approximately 600 ingredients in cigarettes. When burned, cigarettes create more than 7,000 chemicals. At least 69 of these chemicals are known to cause cancer, and many are toxic.

Many of these chemicals also are found in consumer products, but these products have warning labels—such as rat poison packaging. While the public is warned about the danger of the poisons in these products, there is no such warning for the toxins in tobacco smoke.

Here are a few of the chemicals in tobacco smoke and other places they are found:

Acetone—found in nail polish remover
Acetic acid—an ingredient in hair dye
Ammonia—a common household cleaner
Arsenic—used in rat poison
Benzene—found in rubber cement and gasoline
Butane—used in lighter fluid
Cadmium—active component in battery acid
Carbon monoxide—released in car exhaust fumes
Formaldehyde—embalming fluid
Hexamine—found in barbecue lighter fluid
Lead—used in batteries
Naphthalene—an ingredient in mothballs
Methanol—a main component in rocket fuel
Nicotine—used as an insecticide
Tar—material for paving roads
Toluene—used to manufacture paint

NOW VAPE JUICE
WHAT IS VAPE JUICE QUICK REFERENCE GUIDE

•Vape juice, e-liquid, or e-juice is the liquid that is converted to vapor by a vapor device
•Vape juice is made up of VG, PG, nicotine, flavoring, water
•VG stands for vegetable glycerin, a food grade additive
•VG is sometimes used as a food sweetener and has a slightly sweet taste
NONE OF WHICH IN THE LAST 15 YEARS HAS GOTTEN ANYONE CANCER LUNG DISEASE EMPHASYMA
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Acetone—found in nail polish remover
Acetic acid—an ingredient in hair dye
Ammonia—a common household cleaner
Arsenic—used in rat poison
Benzene—found in rubber cement and gasoline
Butane—used in lighter fluid
Cadmium—active component in battery acid
Carbon monoxide—released in car exhaust fumes
Formaldehyde—embalming fluid
Hexamine—found in barbecue lighter fluid
Lead—used in batteries
Naphthalene—an ingredient in mothballs
Methanol—a main component in rocket fuel
Nicotine—used as an insecticide
Tar—material for paving roads
Toluene—used to manufacture paint

Few people would argue that cigarettes are healthy, but these lists are always so ridiculous. Surprise! Ingredients are in things. The same deadly iron that they use to make suspension bridges can be found in the spinach you eat every night. The poisonous water they use in housepaint is also used to grow the apple you had for lunch.  ::)

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so is vaping its 21 to buy vape products what the kids are getting is the juul from gas stations not vape stores. and don't kid yourself most people who smoke today smoked when they were underage vaping wont kill you cigs do

No, it's infinitely easier  for kids to get vaping product than it is cigarettes.

And the bolded is the point. The two biggest knocks against the nicotine industry for the past 50 years have been that they conceal how lethal they are and that they target kids to have an unending feeder pool of customers. Flavored cigarettes are an honest to goodness gateway drug where marijuana is not.


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Legalize it, its a joke of a drug. Its a plant that can grow naturally.
No one OD's, no one blacks out, no one passes out, no one gets physically hooked. (Mentally maybe, not physically).
Not great for the lungs I guess, but edibles are now everywhere. Might cut down on some crime, smuggling, jail pop, etc.
Leave the jail-cells for real criminals, not the lazy stoner.

Its retarded that it was ever illegal in the 1st place. (Reefer Madness)  ::)

Gov't will take it, tax the shit out of it, make their billions soon from it.

But the FDA and the medical world shoves Rx drugs down everyone's throat's for billions and basically created the opioid epidemic.

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No, it's infinitely easier  for kids to get vaping product than it is cigarettes.

And the bolded is the point. The two biggest knocks against the nicotine industry for the past 50 years have been that they conceal how lethal they are and that they target kids to have an unending feeder pool of customers. Flavored cigarettes are an honest to goodness gateway drug where marijuana is not.


nicotine is addictive yes but its a stimulant and doesn't cause cancer, vaping was used to help people quit smoking just like the patch or nic gum.... and cigs are just as easy to get the difference is a vape store will not sell to underage kids not worth losing your store over
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Legalize it, its a joke of a drug. Its a plant that can grow naturally.
No one OD's, no one blacks out, no one passes out, no one gets physically hooked. (Mentally maybe, not physically).
Not great for the lungs I guess, but edibles are now everywhere. Might cut down on some crime, smuggling, jail pop, etc.
Leave the jail-cells for real criminals, not the lazy stoner.

Its retarded that it was ever illegal in the 1st place. (Reefer Madness)  ::)

Gov't will take it, tax the shit out of it, make their billions soon from it.

But the FDA and the medical world shoves Rx drugs down everyone's throat's for billions and basically created the opioid epidemic.

My point exactly its only bad for you when they cant make a buck off of it .. then its oh our youth we care so much about until thry find a way to tax it and control it...and I agree with your post as well
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NOW VAPE JUICE
WHAT IS VAPE JUICE QUICK REFERENCE GUIDE

•Vape juice, e-liquid, or e-juice is the liquid that is converted to vapor by a vapor device
•Vape juice is made up of VG, PG, nicotine, flavoring, water
•VG stands for vegetable glycerin, a food grade additive
•VG is sometimes used as a food sweetener and has a slightly sweet taste
NONE OF WHICH IN THE LAST 15 YEARS HAS GOTTEN ANYONE CANCER LUNG DISEASE EMPHASYMA


My mom quit cigarettes and started to vape (not the flavored) and her lungs actually improved. I’m not saying vaping is good for you, but I guess less deadly than smoking cigarettes. Who knows. 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️ Her lungs have steadily improved since quitting cigs.
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nicotine is addictive yes but its a stimulant and doesn't cause cancer, vaping was used to help people quit smoking just like the patch or nic gum.... and cigs are just as easy to get the difference is a vape store will not sell to underage kids not worth losing your store over

We really don't know what the long term health risks of e-cigarettes are. The fact that they are marketed primarily as an addictive habit in tandem with a much deadlier habit is a good reason to keep them out of the hands of kids.

There have always been people warning about cigarettes. There have always been people trying to shed light on marijuana. Money is a factor, but so is popular opinion. People know how deadly cigarettes are but they still choose to smoke. The fact that cigs are still legal isn't really about caring or not caring about children.

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At the same time the government is trying to discourage smoking tobacco - and outright banning smoking in many public places- they want to add smoking pot to the repertoire. You gotta love the hypocrisy. ;D

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It’s a real shame that vaping is so fucking gay.