Joshua vs. Ruiz II

[johnny1]

A good performance from AJ. Did what he needed to do without taking any unnecessary risks. He beats Wilder imo but loses to Fury.

id agree with that I think the thing most people are over looking with both wilder and Joshua is is that nobody is entertaining the actual thought of what happens when someone is basically the same height, age, has good all round boxing skills and the kicker...also has a tremendous right hand...what happens when Joshua lands his right hand on Wilder?

The talk from most people is that as soon as wilder bangs Joshua the fights over...nobody has even bothered too mention Joshua actually hitting a very easy too hit wilder...styles makes fights make no mistake about that and imo in that particular fight against wilder it’s very feasible Joshua has all the tools too do it, when was the last time Wilder was actually hit really flush and hard bye someone his own age, height, strength etc?

Imo Joshua has (against wilder that is) the style too beat him wether he will beat wilder too the punch is the real question here... if Joshua can set his right hand up and deliver it imo it will be wilder getting knocked out NOT Joshua...in the same breath if wilder lands his well...same result in favour of him he has arguably one of the best straight right hands in history of the heavyweight division the heavyweight version of a prime tommy hearns

The style Joshua won’t cope with imo is obviously Fury...BUT...Fury is very inconsistent and if he doesn’t take Joshua seriously and actually trains hard...fury will hit the deck as well.

[AbrahamG]

Very good analysis. If Wilder throws 17 punches around against AJ, Wilder won't see the 7th round. If AJ is in the shape he was in Saturday when he fights Fury, AJ will win that too.

[Wiggs]

Wilder would beat the hell out of Joshua.  I've been saying this for years and believe it more than ever. Bitch ass Eddie Hearn knows this and keeps Joshua away from Wilder through playing games.

[AbrahamG]

Wilder would beat the hell out of Joshua.  I've been saying this for years and believe it more than ever. Bitch ass Eddie Hearn knows this and keeps Joshua away from Wilder through playing games.

I disagree. I think Wilder v Joshua looks like Lennox Lewis v Michael Grant with Deontay being Michael Grant.

[Wiggs]

I disagree. I think Wilder v Joshua looks like Lennox Lewis v Michael Grant with Deontay being Michael Grant.

I hope this shit happens sometime within the next decade.  There are too many belts.

[Voice of Doom]

I love all the Brit "AJ knocks Wilder out" nonsense talk....hahaha.  Wars are won in the will, AJ doesn't have the heart of a fighter and Wilder is always hungry and out to prove something.  AJ won't have the reach advantag from this latest snoozefest and he doesn't have the skills and movement of Fury.  AJ will be hunted down and knocked just like all the rest of Wilder's opponents. 

[G_Thang]

Wilder would beat the hell out of Joshua.  I've been saying this for years and believe it more than ever. Bitch ass Eddie Hearn knows this and keeps Joshua away from Wilder through playing games.

Joshua isn't fighting Wilder that way. He'd move to Wilder's left, jab to get on the inside and unload combos on Wilder.  Wilder pulls straight with hands up or extended, doesn't punch with you. Fury or Wilder should have taken the fight before Ruiz.  Now, Joshua will become Vlad/Lennox 2.0.  He'll prepare OT for elite opponents.  BTW, he performs best vs tall opponents. IT's short guys like takem, ruiz, povetkin and parker who give him issues.  Joshua will defeat both Wilder and Fury. Someone like Hunter will sneak up and pull the upset like Ruiz but it won't be the 2 clowns.  

[OneMoreRep]

I predict Fury will beat Wilder (again) and later next year Joshua will knock Fury out in front of the biggest live crowd ever for a boxing match.

I respect your opinion, but I think Fury's skill set is comparable to Joshua's. Yes AJ is technically an incredible boxer, but Fury can give him angles he isn't comfortable with. I think AJ and Klitschko are practically the same fighter. AJ is just the upgraded, younger version. I think Fury fucks their flow up pretty badly because he is a little unpredictable at times and then at other times will outbox you in a very technical way. That's frustrating.

Joshua isn't fighting Wilder that way. He'd move to Wilder's left, jab to get on the inside and unload combos on Wilder.  Wilder pulls straight with hands up or extended, doesn't punch with you. Fury or Wilder should have taken the fight before Ruiz.  Now, Joshua will become Vlad/Lennox 2.0.  He'll prepare OT for elite opponents.  BTW, he performs best vs tall opponents. IT's short guys like takem, ruiz, povetkin and parker who give him issues.  Joshua will defeat both Wilder and Fury. Someone like Hunter will sneak up and pull the upset like Ruiz but it won't be the 2 clowns.  

Stop it, you know better than this.

"1"

[G_Thang]

I respect your opinion, but I think Fury's skill set is comparable to Joshua's. Yes AJ is technically an incredible boxer, but Fury can give him angles he isn't comfortable with. I think AJ and Klitschko are practically the same fighter. AJ is just the upgraded, younger version. I think Fury fucks their flow up pretty badly because he is a little unpredictable at times and then at other times will outbox you in a very technical way. That's frustrating.

Stop it, you know better than this.

"1"

What makes you think Wilder's right is more educated than Vlad's?  You better look at Wilder's opponents. Stiverne x 2, Brezeale, 45 yr old HBP Ortiz x 2 and a defeat to Fury.

Refused to fight Vlad for undisputed at 33-0
Refused to fight Whyte for 8-10ml
Refused to fight Joshua for 120 mil.

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.  He is going to beat Wilder.   Wilder has an Al Haymon crafted PBC resume 

[OneMoreRep]

What makes you think Wilder's right is more educated than Vlad's?  You better look at Wilder's opponents. Stiverne x 2, Brezeale, 45 yr old HBP Ortiz x 2 and a defeat to Fury.

Refused to fight Vlad for undisputed at 33-0
Refused to fight Whyte for 8-10ml
Refused to fight Joshua for 120 mil.

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.  He is going to beat Wilder.     

I have 0 doubt that Fury will beat Wilder. I think he will do so with relative ease, just as he did in the first fight. That's not in question. My contention is with your position regarding AJ beating Fury.

Come now..

"1"

[G_Thang]

I have 0 doubt that Fury will beat Wilder. I think he will do so with relative ease, just as he did in the first fight. That's not in question. My contention is with your position regarding AJ beating Fury.

Come now..

"1"

AJ beats Fury in Wembling in front of 100k.  Fury was offered a 3 fight deal with AJ at the end of it before he took the Wilder deal.  AJ will not walk around the ring vs Fury, trying to land one punch like Wilder and Vlad (actually he was a bit gun shy from Wilder's movement)  

 As horrible as Wilder is, he read Fury's movement in the 12th when he dropped him. Another 36 mins will be lethal for Fury

[hardgainerj]

AJ beats Fury in Wembling in front of 100k.  Fury was offered a 3 fight deal with AJ at the end of it before he took the Wilder deal.  AJ will not walk around the ring vs Fury, trying to land one punch like Wilder and Vlad (actually he was a bit gun shy from Wilder's movement)  

 As horrible as Wilder is, he read Fury's movement in the 12th when he dropped him. Another 36 mins will be lethal for Fury

fury DID stand up and hurt wilder remember

[hardgainerj]

i think fury beats outboxes both

[SuperTed]

i think fury beats outboxes both

I think so too. Wilder can be out-boxed comfortably but his explosiveness and awkwardness will always give him a chance against anyone.
I feel Fury will be too fluid and slick for AJ. Fury is deceptively quick and if he is prepared, I can see him making AJ look quite ordinary. Again, AJ has the tools to win and can't be written off with the power he has.

[G_Thang]

i think fury beats outboxes both

Remember Joshua pieced up and dropped Fury hard when he was an amateur, which Fury has never denied.  Wilder equals Vlad which is much easier for Fury to navigate for 12 rounds vs. a guy of similar size unloading combos with a power punch rating of 35-40%.  Joshua will defeat Fury in Wembling. It's like Khan avoiding Kell Brook. If Joshua gets Wilder in trouble like Ortiz I, Joshua will have to get him out of there. You don't need Wilder hanging around in the later rounds.

[Rascal full]

Fury could probably out box both AJ and Wilder but it's who has the judges in their pocket. That is what really matters at the top end of boxing with tens of millions at stake.

[che]

 Joshua will defeat Fury in Wembling.

WTF is Wembling

[G_Thang]

WTF is Wembling

I'm studying jackass, so I'm not really paying attention to what I'm typing on getbig.  Live with it.   

[che]

I'm studying jackass, so I'm not really paying attention to what I'm typing on getbig.  Live with it.   

You typed Wembling in two different posts , WTF is it ,I'm just asking

[pamith]

Ruiz didn't do enough!

[joswift]

I'm studying jackass, so I'm not really paying attention to what I'm typing on getbig.  Live with it.   

make sure you familiarise yourself with Weemans escapades...

[honest]

I don't think Wilder will fight Fury again and where he does it will be because Fury can only win by distance and theres no way, Fury will get the decision.  If Fury was a heavier puncher he would be getting the same treatment as AJ, Wilder talks the talk, he doesn't walk the walk. He has walked away twice from Hearn and AJ each time terms become acceptable they up them.  If AJ can generate more cash than he can, in my opinion he's entitled to it, Wilder would have made more money fighting AJ than anyone else, he doesn't want the fight.

I can see the Arabs putting up a huge sum to fight in the desert in the next year, no way Wilder will take it.

[che]

I don't think Wilder will fight Fury again

Dude ,they are fighting February 22nd

[Marty Champions]

Ruiz followed marty champions bulking diet when he fought overeem the punching bag

[che]

Ruiz didn't do enough!

Great analysis  pamith  , are you related to Max Kellerman by chance ?