Surrogate fathers for the masses: The Rock, Joe Rogan, Jocko Willink, etc...

[BBSSchlemiel]

Jordan Peterson added to list.

Is this a symptom of fatherless households or inadequate fathering?

I mean, if a young man has a wise father, why turn to these buffoons?

“Should I go to college? Trade or profession? How do I change a tire? What’s the right thing to do? Wait, let me not ask my dad or my family members. Let me turn to some guy jabbering incessantly about leadership and a 4:30 AM wake up time for lifting, a pot head, a psychology teacher or intellectual who sounds like Kermit, or a juiced-up shit actor, or a pothead who says nothing meaningful.”

[Matt]

I agree with you that Joe is pretty bad at encouraging everyone to use psychoactive drugs [if that's what you meant].  I like a lot of what Joe does, but I don't much care for that bit.

[BB]

This guy was the original gym daddy before many of them -

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[BBSSchlemiel]

This guy was the original gym daddy before many of them -

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We can include him.

What does everyone think?

[BBSSchlemiel]

I agree with you that Joe is pretty bad at encouraging everyone to use psychoactive drugs [if that's what you meant].  I like a lot of what Joe does, but I don't much care for that bit.

You’re an intelligent man. What do you think of my inquiry?

[Matt]

You’re an intelligent man. What do you think of my inquiry?

Honestly, it might just be that a lot of people don't have wise fathers.  Maybe people are looking for idols.

[_bruce_]

Public figures are full of shit - it comes with the territory and they have to tread carefully or their shmoes will throw them off.

[BBSSchlemiel]

Public figures are full of shit - it comes with the territory and they have to tread carefully or their shmoes will throw them off.

Spot on.