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Why are bodybuilders....
« on: March 07, 2020, 10:07:55 AM »
so secretive about their PED use? Is it because it's illegal? I mean, they ramble on about diet and training and supplements, but once you ask them about their PED use, they get so defensive. Why is PED use their personal business, but their diet and training is not?
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Re: Why are bodybuilders....
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2020, 10:34:35 AM »
Yes,I've wondered this.

They either outright deny use or lie about dose /downplay PEDs effect on their gains.


It seems almost impossible to find a totally sincere bodybuilder.

I think hard drug addicts are more honest.

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Re: Why are bodybuilders....
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2020, 10:41:53 AM »
Yes,I've wondered this.

They either outright deny use or lie about dose /downplay PEDs effect on their gains.


It seems almost impossible to find a totally sincere bodybuilder.

I think hard drug addicts are more honest.

Everyone knows they use PEDs. I don't understand why they are so hush hush about it.

Yet, they have no problems pushing their phony supplements to all the gullible teenagers.
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Re: Why are bodybuilders....
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2020, 10:45:10 AM »
Most pros are natural.

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Re: Why are bodybuilders....
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2020, 10:49:21 AM »
Most pros are natural.

Doug Miller is natural

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Re: Why are bodybuilders....
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2020, 10:58:05 AM »
I figure there are three points to it -

1) Financial. You can't shill hard for the supplement companies if you let it be known you're on drugs. There are a healthy amount of gym rats that already know, but there is still a huge amount of the general population that think supplements might do something magical. Also if they have their own training programs they're selling, it cuts into that too.

Also a lot of the bigger contest don't like being associated with drug use, even though it's an open secret.

2) Legality - I actually don't think this is as big as people make it out to be, unless they are supplementing their income by selling. Sure some might get hassled, but I don't think personal users would get hassled much, especially if they were smart about the language they used and what they showed.

3) Pride - This is a big one, especially with older, and second, third tier guys. Most of these guys, after all is said and done, don't have much for the decades they put into the hobby. They basically have their physique or a lifting record, and that's that. It's hard to admit that a guy can be on the same stack as you, and look 10x better or lift 500lbs more.

So a lot of these guys latch on to the "I was natural" or the "I was only on xyz" lie. Also, whatever schmoe fanbase these guys still have in old age tends to get mighty disgruntle if they find out their hero has been lying to them.

No one likes to be surpassed, and no one likes to be forgotten about.

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Re: Why are bodybuilders....
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2020, 11:15:08 AM »
Most pros are natural.
Pro poker players?

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Re: Why are bodybuilders....
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2020, 11:17:11 AM »
Doug Miller is natural



Big nose ach 100 percent believes so

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Re: Why are bodybuilders....
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2020, 11:24:37 AM »
Doug Miller is natural



Yeah he looks it

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Re: Why are bodybuilders....
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2020, 11:25:46 AM »
Pro poker players?

I doubt even they are natural.

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Re: Why are bodybuilders....
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2020, 11:43:42 AM »
I doubt even they are natural.
Just cigars, liquor and maybe a smidge of cocaine.

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Re: Why are bodybuilders....
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2020, 11:48:28 AM »
I doubt even they are natural.

They must be abusing bisoprolol

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Re: Why are bodybuilders....
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2020, 01:07:49 PM »

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Re: Why are bodybuilders....
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Re: Why are bodybuilders....
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2020, 01:31:13 PM »
so secretive about their PED use? Is it because it's illegal? I mean, they ramble on about diet and training and supplements, but once you ask them about their PED use, they get so defensive. Why is PED use their personal business, but their diet and training is not?

Because they the world to say " look at him, if he was on the gear he'd make Ronnie look like a beginner."

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Re: Why are bodybuilders....
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2020, 03:36:31 PM »
Doug Miller is natural


Just a myostatin deficiency. Ach says he’s natty so it has to be true.
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Re: Why are bodybuilders....
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2020, 11:04:53 PM »
Doug Miller is natural



Drug Miller?

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Re: Why are bodybuilders....
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2020, 11:21:47 PM »
so secretive about their PED use? Is it because it's illegal? I mean, they ramble on about diet and training and supplements, but once you ask them about their PED use, they get so defensive. Why is PED use their personal business, but their diet and training is not?

Ask yourself, who would be sponsoring these dudes if they admit that they are users of illegal drugs? What kind of advertising it would be? Can you sell supplements if you admit that all those muscles are made by illegal drugs?  ;D

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Re: Why are bodybuilders....
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2020, 03:07:49 AM »
Ask yourself, who would be sponsoring these dudes if they admit that they are users of illegal drugs? What kind of advertising it would be? Can you sell supplements if you admit that all those muscles are made by illegal drugs?  ;D

Zero to do with sponsorship.

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Re: Why are bodybuilders....
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2020, 03:43:10 AM »
so secretive about their PED use? Is it because it's illegal? I mean, they ramble on about diet and training and supplements, but once you ask them about their PED use, they get so defensive. Why is PED use their personal business, but their diet and training is not?

Bodybuilders like to tell people that they have elite genetics


That narrative goes to hell once their massive drug use is exposed

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Re: Why are bodybuilders....
« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2020, 05:43:01 AM »
The bottom line they never talk about taking drugs. They want the credit for their physique and don't want the credit to go to the drug when everyone knows what's going on. They want to appear to have the work ethic and training knowledge but where does that work ethic and training knowledge go when they are off cycle?  There are still clueless people in society who don't realize the muscle is a temporary of drug use. I hear the praise these Hollywood actors get for getting buff for a role when all guys who lift know how they got there. It wasn't a personal trainer but a drug dealer. So the bottom line is they will tell you their training protocol but will never give you the dose and the the types of drugs they took.  That takes the praise away from them.

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Re: Why are bodybuilders....
« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2020, 06:07:54 AM »
When pat banya and his schmoe sponsor came on here and claimed the key was sweet potatoes and carrying a microwave everywhere to heat said sweet potatoes was so epic lmao

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Re: Why are bodybuilders....
« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2020, 06:47:24 AM »
Bodybuilders like to tell people that they have elite genetics


That narrative goes to hell once their massive drug use is exposed

This.

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Re: Why are bodybuilders....
« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2020, 07:13:45 AM »
The bottom line they never talk about taking drugs. They want the credit for their physique and don't want the credit to go to the drug when everyone knows what's going on. They want to appear to have the work ethic and training knowledge but where does that work ethic and training knowledge go when they are off cycle?  There are still clueless people in society who don't realize the muscle is a temporary of drug use. I hear the praise these Hollywood actors get for getting buff for a role when all guys who lift know how they got there. It wasn't a personal trainer but a drug dealer. So the bottom line is they will tell you their training protocol but will never give you the dose and the the types of drugs they took.  That takes the praise away from them.

Truth.

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Re: Why are bodybuilders....
« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2020, 07:42:09 AM »
The bottom line they never talk about taking drugs. They want the credit for their physique and don't want the credit to go to the drug when everyone knows what's going on. They want to appear to have the work ethic and training knowledge but where does that work ethic and training knowledge go when they are off cycle?  There are still clueless people in society who don't realize the muscle is a temporary of drug use. I hear the praise these Hollywood actors get for getting buff for a role when all guys who lift know how they got there. It wasn't a personal trainer but a drug dealer. So the bottom line is they will tell you their training protocol but will never give you the dose and the the types of drugs they took.  That takes the praise away from them.

That's it