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Re: Love lost for bob
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2006, 08:53:42 PM »
Bob wanted a title before he retired.
Bob wanted "Masters Pro Champion BBer" under his name when he's on FOX news for the Titus trial.  He needed something to show he was a pro Bber.
He's done.  With the fans, with the competition.

IFBB needed a nice cover boy, some love for BBing.com, and VYO happy.  They got that.  It was a short term fix.

Long term, they lost fans.  We all now see what crap it was.  The camera angles were biased.  The judging was crap.  Flexonline's coverage was crap.  The fans are not stupid- we see this and we are tired of it.

Somewhere, a man named Wayne is taking notes about how NOT to lose fan support.  ANd hopefully, this Sept, we'll see a fair show, even if it means a popular and marketable guy losing :)

240, you are a fairly intelligent dude but wtf? We know that you don't like Chic and you had some controversy with him, we also know how much you support PDI... but can you make an attempt to be fair and unbiased? How can you claim in honesty that Bob's victory was fixed?
You can make a case for Rusty bad placing, but every other outcome for the 1st place would have been a scandal.
And tell me, what's wrong with Chic competing in the Masters? I guess he has the right to do it. Then you guys talk about Vince Taylor. He did the Masters O. for years, without putting any effort (he admitted this) to conquer those victories and now you bring him as an example against Chic...

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Re: Love lost for bob
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2006, 08:53:49 PM »
OH you can't go to a bb show if you're not a beast?  You can only be a true bodybuilding fan if you're heavily muscled?  WTF?

you can go but you won't be invited to the gay hot tub party afterwards.

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Re: Love lost for bob
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2006, 08:55:10 PM »
OH you can't go to a bb show if you're not a beast?  You can only be a true bodybuilding fan if you're heavily muscled?  WTF?

You missed my point completely. Rob has a target on his head, literally I suspect in some households that post here.  That was my point.
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Re: Love lost for bob
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2006, 08:55:39 PM »
So to be an NFL fan you have to go to games?
Point taken. You'd find something to complain about no matter what the results of the show Rob. That's what we've all come to expect from you. You went from doing funny gif animations to starting consipracy theories on every show.

Since you said you are a fan, just how do you quantify yourself as a fan of bodybuilding? You don't attend shows, okay. You hate all the magazines and call them rags. Bash the supplement companies. Just curious what actually makes you a fan...

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Re: Love lost for bob
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2006, 08:56:28 PM »
So to be an NFL fan you have to go to games?  Gimme a break.  lift, it's fine if you want to be blind to the fact that we all know one man would get screwed at this show and one man who would not.
You don't need to be at a game to see the play in detail, but you need to be at a bb show to see the competition.  A football game has so many eyes and angles letting you see what's going on that the guy at home often get more info about the game than many in the statium.  So yea 240, you have to go to the bb events.

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Re: Love lost for bob
« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2006, 08:57:06 PM »
I'm really enjoying another endless debate that will wind down with nothing resolved; keep it up guys. Complain about 240 then turn around and take the bait every time.. :D Where's my popcorn?

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Re: Love lost for bob
« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2006, 08:59:20 PM »
Point taken. You'd find something to complain about no matter what the results of the show Rob. That's what we've all come to expect from you. You went from doing funny gif animations to starting consipracy theories on every show.

Since you said you are a fan, just how do you quantify yourself as a fan of bodybuilding? You don't attend shows, okay. You hate all the magazines and call them rags. Bash the supplement companies. Just curious what actually makes you a fan...


Point not taken Lift.  He's fking wrong.  Its not like being an nfl fan.  ::)

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Re: Love lost for bob
« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2006, 08:59:55 PM »
Point taken. You'd find something to complain about no matter what the results of the show Rob. That's what we've all come to expect from you. You went from doing funny gif animations to starting consipracy theories on every show.

Since you said you are a fan, just how do you quantify yourself as a fan of bodybuilding? You don't attend shows, okay. You hate all the magazines and call them rags. Bash the supplement companies. Just curious what actually makes you a fan...




I'll tell you what makes me a fan Lift, I think you are HOT!!!
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Re: Love lost for bob
« Reply #33 on: April 17, 2006, 09:01:41 PM »
you can go but you won't be invited to the gay hot tub party afterwards.
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Re: Love lost for bob
« Reply #34 on: April 17, 2006, 09:07:16 PM »
Point not taken Lift.  He's fking wrong.  Its not like being an nfl fan.  ::)
I agree with you it's not like being an NFL fan in regards to watching it in person.

This is one of the only industries where guys like 240 can interact with pros and it's sad to see guys like him run most of the pros off because of their childhood banter.
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Re: Love lost for bob
« Reply #35 on: April 17, 2006, 09:10:16 PM »
I agree with you it's not like being an NFL fan in regards to watching it in person.

This is one of the only industries where guys like 240 can interact with pros and it's sad to see guys like him run most of the pros off because of their childhood banter.


Tough talk is HOT!!! Lift, what are you doing after the Colorado Pro? Wanna come over to my hotel room and watch some Guy Grundy vids with me?
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Re: Love lost for bob
« Reply #36 on: April 17, 2006, 09:16:06 PM »
Point taken. You'd find something to complain about no matter what the results of the show Rob. That's what we've all come to expect from you. You went from doing funny gif animations to starting consipracy theories on every show.

Since you said you are a fan, just how do you quantify yourself as a fan of bodybuilding? You don't attend shows, okay. You hate all the magazines and call them rags. Bash the supplement companies. Just curious what actually makes you a fan...



I read MD every month.  I get FLEX sometimes.  So I don't hate the mags, I just give them heat as I am just another market factor they consider when publishing.

When did I ever bash supp companies?  I build websites for lots of supp companies.  Do I think the masses should look twice when Vyo gives Bob Chick a cash prize which he immediately re-gifts to a charity belonging to a Vyo athlete?  Well, duh.  of course.  If the govt was doing this, lawyers would be all over it!

I am talented at taking the underdog's position and analyzing it.  Period.  I never said Bob Chick didn't deserve the win.  I did mention that if Rusty was judged incorrectly, that calls into question ALL of the judging decisions.  Doesn't it?  If a cop is arrested for corruption, they re-examine ALL his past testimony and retry ALL those cases, as a person entrusted with ability to execute decisional power of a group of individiuals.  That's what judges are too.  And when they screw Jeffers, we have to wonder why, and if there was a concerted effort to screw one guy, was there also an effort to promote another? ;)

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Re: Love lost for bob
« Reply #37 on: April 17, 2006, 09:29:50 PM »
240, you are a fairly intelligent dude but wtf? We know that you don't like Chic and you had some controversy with him, we also know how much you support PDI... but can you make an attempt to be fair and unbiased? How can you claim in honesty that Bob's victory was fixed?
You can make a case for Rusty bad placing, but every other outcome for the 1st place would have been a scandal.
And tell me, what's wrong with Chic competing in the Masters? I guess he has the right to do it. Then you guys talk about Vince Taylor. He did the Masters O. for years, without putting any effort (he admitted this) to conquer those victories and now you bring him as an example against Chic...

240 was actually calling it a fix 2 weeks ago.  It's interesting to note that he started the Fix accusations when the pics started to show Bob would be a competitive challenge.  AS SOON AS people started noting that Bob was coming in 240's mouth started the fix spew.  Where is the credibility in his accusations now knowing this ???
On March 30, 2006:
Did you already call Stan McCrary and gloat about the win?  I heard he already got his 2nd place check in the mail.  The fix is in!

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Re: Love lost for bob
« Reply #38 on: April 17, 2006, 09:32:48 PM »
The fix was in, dear.

If any athlete gets placed wrongly for political reasons, it was a fix. 
Rusty 8th = fixed.

Also, because we never saw a Pavol/Bob/Rusty posedown, the legitimacy of Bob's win will forever be cast in a shadow of doubt from the fans, his peers, and Bob himself.  It's true.


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Re: Love lost for bob
« Reply #39 on: April 17, 2006, 09:35:00 PM »
The fix was in, dear.

If any athlete gets placed wrongly for political reasons, it was a fix. 
Rusty 8th = fixed.

Also, because we never saw a Pavol/Bob/Rusty posedown, the legitimacy of Bob's win will forever be cast in a shadow of doubt from the fans, his peers, and Bob himself.  It's true.


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Re: Love lost for bob
« Reply #40 on: April 17, 2006, 10:22:15 PM »
I read MD every month.  I get FLEX sometimes.  So I don't hate the mags, I just give them heat as I am just another market factor they consider when publishing.

When did I ever bash supp companies?  I build websites for lots of supp companies.  Do I think the masses should look twice when Vyo gives Bob Chick a cash prize which he immediately re-gifts to a charity belonging to a Vyo athlete?  Well, duh.  of course.  If the govt was doing this, lawyers would be all over it!

I am talented at taking the underdog's position and analyzing it.  Period.  I never said Bob Chick didn't deserve the win.  I did mention that if Rusty was judged incorrectly, that calls into question ALL of the judging decisions.  Doesn't it?  If a cop is arrested for corruption, they re-examine ALL his past testimony and retry ALL those cases, as a person entrusted with ability to execute decisional power of a group of individiuals.  That's what judges are too.  And when they screw Jeffers, we have to wonder why, and if there was a concerted effort to screw one guy, was there also an effort to promote another? ;)


Holy shit! Now I see why bob thinks you are a complete tool.

Vyo-tec didnt have anything to do with the BB.com FAN poll. It was a on-line poll that fans could vote for THEIR favorite, and Bob won with almost 90% of the vote.

It was BOBS decision to donate the $1,000 to CHARITY. The money goes to the kids at the C.H.O.C. Hospital, not S Ray, and not Vyo-tec.




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Re: Love lost for bob
« Reply #41 on: April 17, 2006, 10:26:31 PM »
Berserker, I'll accept your inability to argue my points as your surrender.


Bob wanted a title before he retired.
Bob wanted "Masters Pro Champion BBer" under his name when he's on FOX news for the Titus trial.  He needed something to show he was a pro Bber.
He's done.  With the fans, with the competition.

IFBB needed a nice cover boy, some love for BBing.com, and VYO happy.  They got that.  It was a short term fix.

Long term, they lost fans.  We all now see what crap it was.  The camera angles were biased.  The judging was crap.  Flexonline's coverage was crap.  The fans are not stupid- we see this and we are tired of it.

Somewhere, a man named Wayne is taking notes about how NOT to lose fan support.  ANd hopefully, this Sept, we'll see a fair show, even if it means a popular and marketable guy losing


 This is not an argument. An argument is a series of logical points that lead to a conclusion. None of this shows that the show was rigged.

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Re: Love lost for bob
« Reply #42 on: April 17, 2006, 10:36:18 PM »
Berserker, address my argument point-by-point and tell me what is 'retarded' in all your grace.
Bob wanted a title before he retired.
Bob wanted "Masters Pro Champion BBer" under his name when he's on FOX news for the Titus trial.  He needed something to show he was a pro Bber.
He's done.  With the fans, with the competition.

IFBB needed a nice cover boy, some love for BBing.com, and VYO happy.  They got that.  It was a short term fix.

Long term, they lost fans.  We all now see what crap it was.  The camera angles were biased.  The judging was crap.  Flexonline's coverage was crap.  The fans are not stupid- we see this and we are tired of it.

Somewhere, a man named Wayne is taking notes about how NOT to lose fan support.  ANd hopefully, this Sept, we'll see a fair show, even if it means a popular and marketable guy losing

.....dude, seriously...there isn't any real debate over who won this show.  From the pics I saw, Bob looked like he won it...and this isn't the first time a little clout helped a guy win.

But really, do you honestly think there was some huge scam being pulled by the sponsers?  Please, man.  It's just retarded to think so....what the hell 'real' benefit could there be?  Us talking about it?....no cash there!

You're just stirring up shit cause that's what you do.  If he didn't win you'd be doing something else to get attention.  As friggin' always. 

Are you pissed cause you got skipped for the 'job' Bob was alleged to offer you, only to find out you're INSANE?

Probably.

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Re: Love lost for bob
« Reply #43 on: April 17, 2006, 10:37:32 PM »
nah, i'm just pushing his buttons :)

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Re: Love lost for bob
« Reply #44 on: April 17, 2006, 10:38:07 PM »
i thought carl won, he had the better package


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Re: Love lost for bob
« Reply #45 on: April 17, 2006, 10:39:24 PM »
nah, i'm just pushing his buttons :)

 You're a good guy, but you really need to find a new hobby.

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Re: Love lost for bob
« Reply #46 on: April 17, 2006, 10:48:01 PM »
nah, i'm just pushing his buttons :)
Spoken like a true attention whore after a fix.  At least you admit it.  Now go GET HELP!!!!

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Re: Love lost for bob
« Reply #47 on: April 17, 2006, 10:49:35 PM »
nah, i'm just pushing his buttons :)


...what was that, 2 minutes?  ....anyway, make it less obvious next time and if you're gonna pick an angle, pick something NOBODY would expect, or at least, pick a contest somebody actually gave a shit about.

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Re: Love lost for bob
« Reply #48 on: April 17, 2006, 10:50:31 PM »
i thought carl won, he had the better package


Is that the kind of image that's in controversy?  That's NOT gay porn.  It's a guy pinup.

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Re: Love lost for bob
« Reply #49 on: April 17, 2006, 10:52:28 PM »
pick a contest somebody actually gave a shit about.

Okay.

The Colorado Pro it is! :)