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Aren’t you in New York?

In New York City, but all of my investment properties are in Southern States and managed by property management companies that collect payments and take care of the day-to-day wear & tear issues.

I saw something on the news that said as many as 80% of the people in parts of NYC, including Manhattan, would default on their rent or mortgage this month. I think there is an expected exodus from the City to the suburbs of 7-10% this year. Home and rental prices in the suburbs should see a spike almost immediately.

The way we have done is as follows. We own 2 homes in NYC. One is a very humble/modest home in a beautiful suburbs area of NYC (in Queens). This is a home that was purchased in the late 90's and is fully paid off and has appreciated tremendously. We then own a condo in Tribeca that we have owned since circa 2009-2010 (right after the mortgage crisis when people were selling their homes for peanuts). We still have a mortgage on the condo, because it's just too damn expensive to pay off. We always keep about 6 months of living expenses saved away at the bank, call this our rainy day fund (covers principal, interest, taxes and insurance to our condo). We do this in case we hit the worst economic times of our lives (think 1928-1929 era). We also, as the market allows, have refinanced our mortgage a few times to slowly creep towards the interest rate we need to bleed less onto our mortgage and instead use any extra money towards other acquisitions and investments (properties, stock market, retirement funds, other ventures etc).

Once the people leave the City, but up the best of the empty properties and wait for the cycle to reverse itself in a few years.

We are not poor, but I wouldn't be so arrogant as to say we are rich. We are hard working people and need our jobs just like anyone else, in order to live well in NYC. Can we move to the South (Say Florida) and only have to keep up with monthly cost-of-living expenses (utilities for the house and food)? Of course, and that could be done with just returns on investments without ever having to work another day in our lives. But both my partner and I have too many ties to NYC (family, best friends, work, reputations at work etc), shit that in the grand scheme of things don't matter as much as we humans think it does, but it does help to define who and what we are to this world. Foolish in some ways, but it's the crazy shit that sometimes drives people.

What we won't do is invest in New York City real estate. We don't want to park our money in an expensive property with exuberant property taxes. Even once prices plummet, it won't be low enough to suggest that even a 10% down payment won't translate to 100's of thousands of dollars. We can't do it. We pick states that have lower costs of living, inexpensive price tags on properties with lower property taxes.

Anyhow, that's all I have to say.

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Positive cash flow on my rental properties...

Lets just hope that you don't have other kinds of flows that might be positive ... :)

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For me its been stay the course. Adding cash into to quality stocks as they fall. Holding all properties.

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For me its been stay the course. Adding cash into to quality stocks as they fall. Holding all properties.

The only change I made is that I'm a little more focused on stocks that I have a lot of faith in and I got out of the stuff I wasn't as sure about.  I cut my exposure to REITs and banks.  I'm dollar cost averaging in every 2 to 4 weeks.  Tech heavy.  Expecting to take some losses in the near future but I'm in it for the long haul.

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3 or 4 months ago I would have said the same thing.  Real Estate was an idiot proof investment for long term wealth creation.  Then the stupid ass virus hit.  Now before I invest in another property I have to make sure I can afford the mortgage if my renters stop paying.  In my mind, the virus just increased the barrier to entry a bit.  I'm much less likely to take a risk now by over-leveraging myself.

There's a rental across the street from me that has been vacant since last fall. It's a nice house in good condition. The owners are the landlords from hell, specially the wife. Apparently word is out about them. They've owned the house for decades so they likely have no mortgage, but taxes and upkeep continue anyway.

As a landlord, you should plan on vacancies and be able to cover them. In regular times a good realtor can give you a pretty good estimate regarding occupancy rates in the area and for a particular property. The pandemic changes makes these variables less certain.

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“Jacking off punks under the bridge for $15 bucks a pop”

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That's something to keep in mind.  ::)  Selling personal porn on cam is likely huge because of the COVID-19 shutdown.

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That's something to keep in mind.  ::)  Selling personal porn on cam is likely huge because of the COVID-19 shutdown.

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That's something to keep in mind.  ::)  Selling personal porn on cam is likely huge because of the COVID-19 shutdown.

I can't imagine there is any significant money in selling personal porn because there is just so much of it. While I was on Instagram I saw all these women trying to get you to sign up for their "Onlyfans" porn feed.  I can imagine there is an equal number of men doing it. Supply>>>>demand I 'm guessing.

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In New York City, but all of my investment properties are in Southern States and managed by property management companies that collect payments and take care of the day-to-day wear & tear issues.

The way we have done is as follows. We own 2 homes in NYC. One is a very humble/modest home in a beautiful suburbs area of NYC (in Queens). This is a home that was purchased in the late 90's and is fully paid off and has appreciated tremendously. We then own a condo in Tribeca that we have owned since circa 2009-2010 (right after the mortgage crisis when people were selling their homes for peanuts). We still have a mortgage on the condo, because it's just too damn expensive to pay off. We always keep about 6 months of living expenses saved away at the bank, call this our rainy day fund (covers principal, interest, taxes and insurance to our condo). We do this in case we hit the worst economic times of our lives (think 1928-1929 era). We also, as the market allows, have refinanced our mortgage a few times to slowly creep towards the interest rate we need to bleed less onto our mortgage and instead use any extra money towards other acquisitions and investments (properties, stock market, retirement funds, other ventures etc).

We are not poor, but I wouldn't be so arrogant as to say we are rich. We are hard working people and need our jobs just like anyone else, in order to live well in NYC. Can we move to the South (Say Florida) and only have to keep up with monthly cost-of-living expenses (utilities for the house and food)? Of course, and that could be done with just returns on investments without ever having to work another day in our lives. But both my partner and I have too many ties to NYC (family, best friends, work, reputations at work etc), shit that in the grand scheme of things don't matter as much as we humans think it does, but it does help to define who and what we are to this world. Foolish in some ways, but it's the crazy shit that sometimes drives people.

What we won't do is invest in New York City real estate. We don't want to park our money in an expensive property with exuberant property taxes. Even once prices plummet, it won't be low enough to suggest that even a 10% down payment won't translate to 100's of thousands of dollars. We can't do it. We pick states that have lower costs of living, inexpensive price tags on properties with lower property taxes.

Anyhow, that's all I have to say.

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OMR, you are a true getbigger! Living the dream!

I think as we get older, we all start to cross into the "we can start living the dream now, or it will be never" given that by then we only have 20-25 years at best left.

Also, one of the best parts about marriage is that unless a prenup is signed, what's yours is mine and what's mine is yours. This is probably one of best things about marriage, it literally expands your net worth.

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You're right about that. I got wind of it when it was around $150 a coin. Even in this "down" market it's still well over $9,000. I would have made a killing. One guy I know became a multimillionaire just on BTC alone. How much was it going for when you got in?

it was maybe 1 or 2 bucks.   I never cared because I generated all of my bitcoins but remember that I jumped in it originally 10 years ago and I'm only glad I profited long after i was divorced....lol.   But the bull run is over and anyone with a bitcoin rig that isn't solar or wind powered is a complete moron.   The rigs at this point needed are expensive...about 2,000 dollars, require maintenance, electricity and cooling to even operate.   You'll be lucky to break even in 2 years.


Karatbars is the last place you can make a profit because you can sell cryptocurrency that's already generated rather in addition to selling gold. 



People laughed me on bitcoin up here and I'm sure they'll laugh now and honestly I don't give a fuck because I laughed all the way to the bank.   Get onboard with me.

http://ourmoneyisgold.com
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I can't imagine there is any significant money in selling personal porn because there is just so much of it. While I was on Instagram I saw all these women trying to get you to sign up for their "Onlyfans" porn feed.  I can imagine there is an equal number of men doing it. Supply>>>>demand I 'm guessing.

Never understood the point of that.

But they're making money from it so there's obviously a demand.

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I can't imagine there is any significant money in selling personal porn because there is just so much of it. While I was on Instagram I saw all these women trying to get you to sign up for their "Onlyfans" porn feed.  I can imagine there is an equal number of men doing it. Supply>>>>demand I 'm guessing.

You are probably right. The world is full of reasonably attractive people who think they can make some money off selling themselves. There must not be much stigma attached to it since it is so common place now. With the pandemic, there's a lot of healthy and horny people sitting at home who would probably willingly do a virtual hook up via Snapchat or What'sAp. Even if I wanted to try something like this, I would be too embarrassed to because I hate how I look on camera.

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Never understood the point of that.

But they're making money from it so there's obviously a demand.

If you have 6000 followers on instagram, facebook, twitter, or pornhub, you can set up a page that charges $10/month.  If 1-5% of your followers subscribe to your personal “fan” page you can earn between $600-$3,000/month.

Let’s say you have 20,000 followers.  If 1-5% of your followers subscribe to your page at $15/month you can earn $3,000-$15,000/month!

If you have 50,000 followers . . . I am not a "fan" but the math starts to add up!  ::)

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How are you marketing the brand so people know about it?

Right now with expos and conventions being canceled it’s mostly word of mouth, targeted Facebook ads and sponsored ads, using both of my IG accounts to play off one another, Guerrilla marketing, and several athletes and actors that help promote Joe Local. When this ends, we have several commitments to local surf shops in Huntington Beach down to Dana Point to carry our apparel

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Right now with expos and conventions being canceled it’s mostly word of mouth, targeted Facebook ads and sponsored ads, using both of my IG accounts to play off one another, Guerrilla marketing, and several athletes and actors that help promote Joe Local. When this ends, we have several commitments to local surf shops in Huntington Beach down to Dana Point to carry our apparel

Nice.

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I can't imagine there is any significant money in selling personal porn because there is just so much of it. While I was on Instagram I saw all these women trying to get you to sign up for their "Onlyfans" porn feed.  I can imagine there is an equal number of men doing it. Supply>>>>demand I 'm guessing.
I know a girl who made $35,000 last month doing onlyfans. Shes a stripper at Speriment Rhino in Vegas, they're obviously closed so she started doing onlyfans. Shes banking, she does all kind of stuff on cam, lesbian stuff, sex with guys, masterbation. Most of her subscribers are surprisingly from the middle east.

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If you have 6000 followers on instagram, facebook, twitter, or pornhub, you can set up a page that charges $10/month.  If 1-5% of your followers subscribe to your personal “fan” page you can earn between $600-$3,000/month.

Let’s say you have 20,000 followers.  If 1-5% of your followers subscribe to your page at $15/month you can earn $3,000-$15,000/month!

If you have 50,000 followers . . . I am not a "fan" but the math starts to add up!  ::)

Too bad I am past my 'prime' despite than my handle suggests otherwise.  :'(

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I know a girl who made $35,000 last month doing onlyfans. Shes a stripper at Speriment Rhino in Vegas, they're obviously closed so she started doing onlyfans. Shes banking, she does all kind of stuff on cam, lesbian stuff, sex with guys, masterbation. Most of her subscribers are surprisingly from the middle east.

Wow, guess there really is a market for it!

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There's a rental across the street from me that has been vacant since last fall. It's a nice house in good condition. The owners are the landlords from hell, specially the wife. Apparently word is out about them. They've owned the house for decades so they likely have no mortgage, but taxes and upkeep continue anyway.

As a landlord, you should plan on vacancies and be able to cover them. In regular times a good realtor can give you a pretty good estimate regarding occupancy rates in the area and for a particular property. The pandemic changes makes these variables less certain.


Post address of that place, I'll take a look on Google Earth !.

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I think as we get older, we all start to cross into the "we can start living the dream now, or it will be never" given that by then we only have 20-25 years at best left.

Also, one of the best parts about marriage is that unless a prenup is signed, what's yours is mine and what's mine is yours. This is probably one of best things about marriage, it literally expands your net worth.

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Shit man, I thought you were in your early 50’s.

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In New York City, but all of my investment properties are in Southern States and managed by property management companies that collect payments and take care of the day-to-day wear & tear issues.

The way we have done is as follows. We own 2 homes in NYC. One is a very humble/modest home in a beautiful suburbs area of NYC (in Queens). This is a home that was purchased in the late 90's and is fully paid off and has appreciated tremendously. We then own a condo in Tribeca that we have owned since circa 2009-2010 (right after the mortgage crisis when people were selling their homes for peanuts). We still have a mortgage on the condo, because it's just too damn expensive to pay off. We always keep about 6 months of living expenses saved away at the bank, call this our rainy day fund (covers principal, interest, taxes and insurance to our condo). We do this in case we hit the worst economic times of our lives (think 1928-1929 era). We also, as the market allows, have refinanced our mortgage a few times to slowly creep towards the interest rate we need to bleed less onto our mortgage and instead use any extra money towards other acquisitions and investments (properties, stock market, retirement funds, other ventures etc).

We are not poor, but I wouldn't be so arrogant as to say we are rich. We are hard working people and need our jobs just like anyone else, in order to live well in NYC. Can we move to the South (Say Florida) and only have to keep up with monthly cost-of-living expenses (utilities for the house and food)? Of course, and that could be done with just returns on investments without ever having to work another day in our lives. But both my partner and I have too many ties to NYC (family, best friends, work, reputations at work etc), shit that in the grand scheme of things don't matter as much as we humans think it does, but it does help to define who and what we are to this world. Foolish in some ways, but it's the crazy shit that sometimes drives people.

What we won't do is invest in New York City real estate. We don't want to park our money in an expensive property with exuberant property taxes. Even once prices plummet, it won't be low enough to suggest that even a 10% down payment won't translate to 100's of thousands of dollars. We can't do it. We pick states that have lower costs of living, inexpensive price tags on properties with lower property taxes.

Anyhow, that's all I have to say.

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Thank you for the great response, I wasn’t ignoring it, just haven’t had time to respond back to you.

Glad you’re doing well and staying safe. Will type out a response first chance I get.

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We may get a housing bubble post corona because mortgage rates have fallen close to their historic lows, and first time buyers are looking to jump right on it. People will get burned.

This is in the UK anyway.

I'm hoarding silver right as insurance for these uncertaint times, and a bit of a hail mary that it might triple in value soon.

Good move.  When you consider all the funny money the Fed is creating, silver is the most undervalued asset on the planet.  It's good to have both gold and silver, gold is a bit less volatile.  Physical PMs held in your possession have no counter-party risks either.  Just wait until the hyperinflation kicks in, PMs will go to the moon.