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There is no such thing as sets or reps
« on: August 22, 2020, 11:10:44 PM »
if i do 6 sets of 10 thats 60 reps right? if i do 4 sets of 20 thats 80 reps right?

but if the weight is different in the 60 versus the 80 and the only thing thats changes is the time,   i wait in between these so called sets

then what is a set?  isnt it just rest pause? a long continual set?

now stay with me. if your doing legs 4 weeks out and your still strong. can i do 40 sets for hams and quads and not over train if my reps are low, say 10 reps but i do 6 sets per exercise. 8 exercises

look at jays face here. have you ever seen it look like this? deep eye sockets. almost asleep while sitting between sets, then totally overun with animal drive while completing a set. only a few have felt this. its quite the experience. one min your out, next its give me more.

remember he is comming off his best showing ever a year prior, so nothing changed, same program. pedal to the metal

only competitors would know what im talking here.

only serious trainers need add imput to thread.


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Re: There is no such thing as sets or reps
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2020, 11:28:18 PM »
then what is a set?  isnt it just rest pause? a long continual set?

I guess you could look at it that way.

As far as I am concerned, a set consists of as many reps as I can do until I reach muscle failure, or just shy of failure.  Each rep is performed as fast as I can perform it on the way to reaching failure.

The time between what I define as "sets" is the amount of time needed to roughly perform at the same level as I did in the previous set, with the expectation that my strength and energy levels will decline as my workout progresses.

I suppose you can call it all one continual set if you wanted to - but, IMO, reaching failure or close to failure is what defines the end of a so-called "set".

But then again, this is bodybuilding - we use the term "symmetry" to refer to the proportions of a competitor's physique, when symmetry, by definition, refers to left/right balance.

I have no idea how the term symmetry got hijacked in the bodybuilding world to mean something completely different from the dictionary definition.

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Re: There is no such thing as sets or reps
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2020, 12:16:51 AM »
 ???


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Re: There is no such thing as sets or reps
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2020, 01:07:14 AM »
TLDR...

I think what your saying is it's really just time under tension for a set? Not really reps that matter... I can agree to this to a degree.

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Re: There is no such thing as sets or reps
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2020, 01:56:23 AM »
TLDR...

I think what your saying is it's really just time under tension for a set? Not really reps that matter... I can agree to this to a degree.

Yes. Time under tension. Nothing really new was stated above.

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Re: There is no such thing as sets or reps
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2020, 02:45:07 AM »
if i do 6 sets of 10 thats 60 reps right? if i do 4 sets of 20 thats 80 reps right?

but if the weight is different in the 60 versus the 80 and the only thing thats changes is the time,   i wait in between these so called sets

then what is a set?  isnt it just rest pause? a long continual set?

now stay with me. if your doing legs 4 weeks out and your still strong. can i do 40 sets for hams and quads and not over train if my reps are low, say 10 reps but i do 6 sets per exercise. 8 exercises

look at jays face here. have you ever seen it look like this? deep eye sockets. almost asleep while sitting between sets, then totally overun with animal drive while completing a set. only a few have felt this. its quite the experience. one min your out, next its give me more.

remember he is comming off his best showing ever a year prior, so nothing changed, same program. pedal to the metal

only competitors would know what im talking here.

only serious trainers need add imput to thread.


I used to work out at his gym in Vegas and I never saw him lifting anywhere close to that much weight.

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Re: There is no such thing as sets or reps
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2020, 04:13:39 AM »
This thread belongs in the Training Section.

Sorry Spicoli, but you get an F.




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Re: There is no such thing as sets or reps
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2020, 04:40:14 AM »
Your effort is the percentage of max and how many reps and sets youre doing of that percentage of max


You can never be 100 percent sure of 1rm max of course but close enough to compare and mathmatically analyze workouts at different weights reps and sets


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Re: There is no such thing as sets or reps
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2020, 04:42:23 AM »
only competitors would know what im talking here.

only serious trainers need add imput to thread.


= you only want posts that agree with yours
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Re: There is no such thing as sets or reps
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2020, 05:59:04 AM »
   
    groundbreaking , you've disproved the whole basis of the weider system. more useless ramblings of the resident steroid hag.   
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Re: There is no such thing as sets or reps
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2020, 06:34:17 AM »
All I know is when I go to the gym its war and I unleash hell

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Re: There is no such thing as sets or reps
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2020, 06:42:13 AM »
OK, but explain this to me.  Goofy is a dog and he walks and talks like a person, while Pluto is a is also a dog but he can only act like a dog.  What the fuck?


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Re: There is no such thing as sets or reps
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2020, 08:35:03 AM »
woooooshhh




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I actually trained that stupid system.  Yes, it is a scam.  Static contraction is an even bigger scam they Sisco and Little were pushing and had Tony Robbins endorsing it.

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Re: There is no such thing as sets or reps
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2020, 09:11:34 AM »

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Re: There is no such thing as sets or reps
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2020, 10:07:59 AM »
= you only want posts that agree with yours

Careful, Epic will call you an annoying "keyboard protester".  :)

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Re: There is no such thing as sets or reps
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2020, 12:27:46 PM »
Sorry guys I was high as hell last night and thought I was onto something

I still think it’s just about the time you wait or don’t wait between sets that matters


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Re: There is no such thing as sets or reps
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2020, 01:03:00 PM »
Sorry guys I was high as hell last night and thought I was onto something

I still think it’s just about the time you wait or don’t wait between sets that matters



But what if you only do one set?

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Re: There is no such thing as sets or reps
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2020, 01:11:52 PM »
Such nonsense

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Re: There is no such thing as sets or reps
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2020, 01:17:38 PM »
Sorry guys I was high as hell last night and thought I was onto something

I still think it’s just about the time you wait or don’t wait between sets that matters

I think you’re right on about this. Rest and “recovery” between sets is vital but what I’ve found out is what works for me doesn’t work for everyone.

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Re: There is no such thing as sets or reps
« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2020, 01:20:18 PM »
I think you’re right on about this. Rest and “recovery” between sets is vital but what I’ve found out is what works for me doesn’t work for everyone.
id say no one wants to be out of shape like you, so whatever works for you, people shoul avoid.
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Re: There is no such thing as sets or reps
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2020, 02:10:34 PM »
Rest between sets is for me the only way I can lift heavy and gain strength and recover

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Re: There is no such thing as sets or reps
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2020, 03:10:59 PM »
OK, but explain this to me.  Goofy is a dog and he walks and talks like a person, while Pluto is a is also a dog but he can only act like a dog.  What the fuck?



What’s always bugged me was how scooby doo couldn’t talk but crappy doo could

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Re: There is no such thing as sets or reps
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2020, 03:18:54 PM »
What’s always bugged me was how scooby doo couldn’t talk but crappy doo could

its because they are cartoons...

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Re: There is no such thing as sets or reps
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2020, 03:45:33 PM »
id say no one wants to be out of shape like you, so whatever works for you, people shoul avoid.

Great point, you looked good juiced to the gills and now you're a clinical study for the health defects of obesity.