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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - Hero - Self Defense or Murder? Discuss
« Reply #150 on: August 29, 2020, 10:51:20 AM »
Only a white grievance voter would hail this 17 year old domestic terrorist as "a hero"
Facts don't really matter to trumptards

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - Hero - Self Defense or Murder? Discuss
« Reply #151 on: August 29, 2020, 10:56:31 AM »
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - Hero - Self Defense or Murder? Discuss
« Reply #152 on: August 29, 2020, 11:18:13 AM »
A Kenosha Militia Facebook Event Asking Attendees To Bring Weapons Was Reported 455 Times. Moderators Said It Didn’t Violate Any Rules.


CEO Mark Zuckerberg said that the reason the militia page and an associated event remained online after a shooting that killed two people was due to “an operational mistake.”

In a companywide meeting on Thursday, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg said that a militia page advocating for followers to bring weapons to an upcoming protest in Kenosha, Wisconsin, remained on the platform because of “an operational mistake.” The page and an associated event inspired widespread criticism of the company after a 17-year-old suspect allegedly shot and killed two protesters Tuesday night.

The event associated with the Kenosha Guard page, however, was flagged to Facebook at least 455 times after its creation, according to an internal report viewed by BuzzFeed News, and had been cleared by four moderators, all of whom deemed it “non-violating.” The page and event were eventually removed from the platform on Wednesday — several hours after the shooting.

“To put that number into perspective, it made up 66% of all event reports that day,” one Facebook worker wrote in the internal “Violence and Incitement Working Group” to illustrate the number of complaints the company had received about the event.

BuzzFeed News could not verify the content on the militia page or its associated event because they had been removed from the platform. A previous story from the Verge noted that the page had issued a “call to arms” and hosted a number of commenters advocating for violence in Kenosha following the police shooting of 29-year-old Black man Jacob Blake.

A Facebook spokesperson declined to comment.

The internal report seen by BuzzFeed News reveals the extent to which concerned Facebook users went to warn the company of a group calling for public violence, and how the company failed to act. “The event is highly unusual in retrospect,” reads the report, which notes that the next highest event for the day had been flagged 18 times by users compared to the 455 times of the Kenosha Guard event.

After militia gathered in Kenosha on Tuesday night, a 17-year-old with a rifle allegedly killed two protesters. Facebook has maintained that the suspect, whose Facebook and Instagram profiles were taken down after the incident, had no direct connection with the Kenosha Guard page or event.

During Facebook’s Thursday all-hands meeting, Zuckerberg said that the images from Wisconsin were “painful and really discouraging,” before acknowledging that the company had made a mistake in not taking the Kenosha Guard page and event down sooner. The page had violated Facebook’s new rules introduced last week that labeled militia and QAnon groups as “Dangerous Individuals and Organizations” for their celebrations of violence.

The company did not catch the page despite user reports, Zuckerberg said, because the complaints had been sent to content moderation contractors who were not versed in “how certain militias” operate. “On second review, doing it more sensitively, the team that was responsible for dangerous organizations recognized that this violated the policies and we took it down.”

During the talk, Facebook employees hammered Zuckerberg for continuing to allow the spread of hatred on the platform.

“At what point do we take responsibility for enabling hate filled bile to spread across our services?” wrote one employee. “[A]nti semitism, conspiracy, and white supremacy reeks across our services.”

The internal report seen by BuzzFeed News sheds more light on Facebook’s failure.

“Organizers… advocated for attendees to bring weapons to an event in the event description,” the internal report reads. “There are multiple news articles about our delay in taking down the event.”

One Facebook user who flagged the Kenosha Guard page “for a credible threat of violence” was told “it doesn’t go against one of our specific Community Standards,” according to a screenshot they sent to BuzzFeed News.

In addition to the four manual reviews that determined the Kenosha Guard page to be non-violative, the Facebook report also noted a number of reviews that “were handled by automation” had reached the same conclusion. As part of a proposed change, the Facebook employee writing the report said that the company should monitor spikes in feedback reports for events and “trigger investigation immediately given this has proved to be a good signal for imminent harm.”

The report seems to acknowledge that Facebook was late to act.

“This post provides more details around what happened and changes we are making to detect and investigate similar events sooner,” the worker wrote. “This is a sobering reminder of the importance of the work we do, especially during this charged period.”

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/kenosha-militia-facebook-reported-455-times-moderators?utm_source=dynamic&utm_campaign=bffbbuzzfeed&ref=bffbbuzzfeed&&fbclid=IwAR0nPHXMOc2Z612Yq73kvcc_dE62lXS1nSMfA3c1W3OKjsZQZ8vNAanvcUk

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - Hero - Self Defense or Murder? Discuss
« Reply #153 on: August 29, 2020, 11:22:47 AM »
He’s a Murderer.  If I were on the jury I’d vote for the electric chair.  A skateboard and a gun are not equal weapons.

I’m not surprised at the support this dumb, asshole kid has here, what with all the racists and haters.


He killed two white guys and injured another, wouldn’t it be better for you if he killed all 3 and they were black?

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - Hero - Self Defense or Murder? Discuss
« Reply #154 on: August 29, 2020, 11:32:52 AM »
He shouldn't have been in that riot holding a gun. He was chased and he ran away. When he was caught what should he have done? Surrendered his weapon? Do you realize the guy chasing him had a criminal felony record?   What would he done with the weapon after he took it off the kid? Glad we never had a chance to find out.

Tired of these rioting Democrats. They murder, assault, arson, loot, vandalize, intimidate and block roadways. When they meet resistance they cry foul. Fuck these liberal Democrats. I bet if the unemployment wasn't so high they would back to work with no time to riot.

Want to know what a peaceful protest actually is?  It's when 100K anti abortion people gather in Washington DC every year. No crime gets committed and there is nothing but peace. No assault, arson, vandalizing or looting takes place. The only ones that cause trouble is a tiny group of pro abortion people that show up.

I hope all the businesses that got destroyed pack up and move to a Red state. Liberals turned their cities into Detroit. They should enjoy what they created.

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - Hero - Self Defense or Murder? Discuss
« Reply #155 on: August 29, 2020, 11:36:05 AM »
Weird how corporations condition people to believe burning cities, killing dozens, injuring countless, for months and months....

 is love


and bringing guns to protect property is hate and "White supremacy". F#ck you, gullible ADL sap.

People's whole lives, thoughts, beliefs, and morals are dictated by what tv shows, movies, and corporations tell them is right or wrong.

Your temples are teaching you to hate White Christians and use Blacks as weapons, your proxy warriors to commit violence.

It's also led to inconceivable ethno masocism.

Shame on you if you get off on seeing self-hating Whites doing this because your faith tells you everyone not in your 'ingroup' is a "Nazi":




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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - Hero - Self Defense or Murder? Discuss
« Reply #156 on: August 29, 2020, 12:45:40 PM »

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - Hero - Self Defense or Murder? Discuss
« Reply #157 on: August 29, 2020, 01:28:43 PM »
He’s a Murderer.  If I were on the jury I’d vote for the electric chair.  A skateboard and a gun are not equal weapons.

I’m not surprised at the support this dumb, asshole kid has here, what with all the racists and haters.

He worked in Kenosha.  After work he went to clean graffiti off school walls.  When he heard a local business was asking for help defending their livelihood against rioters, he went to protect them.

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - Hero - Self Defense or Murder? Discuss
« Reply #158 on: August 29, 2020, 01:43:26 PM »
He worked in Kenosha.  After work he went to clean graffiti off school walls.  When he heard a local business was asking for help defending their livelihood against rioters, he went to protect them.

You spend your day looking at dick pics in the gay threads here.

nice right wing narrative, the truth is that this triggered domestic terrorist murdered 2 civilians as a result of listening to "dear leader"


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - Hero - Self Defense or Murder? Discuss
« Reply #159 on: August 29, 2020, 01:47:59 PM »
nice right wing narrative, the truth is that this triggered domestic terrorist murdered 2 civilians as a result of listening to "dear leader"


It's not a right wing narrative, it's from his defense attorneys.

But let's list some examples of why your post sucks:

1. Doesn't counter the post it's replying to with anything tangible.
2. Applies emotional subjectivity not supported by facts.
3. Posted by TDS infected loser who can't even post under original screen name.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - Hero - Self Defense or Murder? Discuss
« Reply #160 on: August 29, 2020, 02:21:29 PM »
Only a white grievance voter would hail this 17 year old domestic terrorist as "a hero"
Facts don't really matter to trumptards

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - Hero - Self Defense or Murder? Discuss
« Reply #161 on: August 29, 2020, 02:23:45 PM »
nice right wing narrative, the truth is that this triggered domestic terrorist murdered 2 civilians as a result of listening to "dear leader"



Shut the fuck up...retard

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - Hero - Self Defense or Murder? Discuss
« Reply #162 on: August 29, 2020, 02:56:17 PM »
I'm sure he'll be happy to see you when you visit him in prison


But BOB, I'm sure that you'll be happy if GB's visit you in NFM  ;D

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - Hero - Self Defense or Murder? Discuss
« Reply #163 on: August 29, 2020, 02:59:37 PM »
I'd like to see how kang lebron and co would feel about some ghetto dindus burning down their street and taking reparations from their property.


LeBron lives in Brentwood, he’s very tied into the struggle that he was able to pull himself out of.

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - Hero - Self Defense or Murder? Discuss
« Reply #164 on: August 29, 2020, 03:20:13 PM »

LeBron lives in Brentwood, he’s very tied into the struggle that he was able to pull himself out of.

He lives in a brand new $23 million dollar mansion.  How is that being tied to the struggle?  ???


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - Hero - Self Defense or Murder? Discuss
« Reply #165 on: August 29, 2020, 03:29:22 PM »
He lives in a brand new $23 million dollar mansion.  How is that being tied to the struggle?  ???

It sounds like my comment went over your head brother.

Brentwood is a 180 from Akron.

He didn’t move to Compton, Inglewood or even LA, he moved to the nicest area he could, and that’s 100% his right. I’m just pointing out the fact that the guy who climbed out of the gutter left it behind.

He’s done many good works and deserves everything he has in life but maybe if his focus was on the issues “his people, black people” struggle with instead of criminals acting like criminals and in turn costing them their life, maybe his opinion would hold some weight.

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - Hero - Self Defense or Murder? Discuss
« Reply #166 on: August 29, 2020, 03:31:28 PM »
He’s done many good works and deserves everything he has in life but maybe if his focus was on the issues “his people, black people” struggle with instead of criminals acting like criminals and in turn costing them their life, maybe his opinion would hold some weight.

This is a very reasonable take.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - Hero - Self Defense or Murder? Discuss
« Reply #167 on: August 29, 2020, 04:02:11 PM »
This breakdown of the the whole incident is the best I've seen so far -

https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/The-Kenosha-Shootings-Kyle-Rittenhouse-A-Tactical-and-Legal-Analysis-UPDATED-1st-Shooter-ID-d-/5-2362796/ .

It's long, but worth it.


Totally agree - great link thanks for posting (I'd never have found something like that)  8)


Edit: "The crowd at Ultimate being unable to achieve their objectives at that location, apparently seek to find other venues to articulate the critical import of their views on the human condition and their opinions on the current state of the social compact. In particular, "Car Source," the maintenance facility/service garage of a car dealership some 300 meters to the south of Ultimate long known as a typical locale for the post-midnight speaking of public speeches, Oxford-style debate, and constructive airing of grievances, much like the famous Roman Forum of ancient times."

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - Hero - Self Defense or Murder? Discuss
« Reply #168 on: August 29, 2020, 04:08:08 PM »
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Re: How is this 17 year old kid not an American hero
« Reply #169 on: August 29, 2020, 04:10:39 PM »
Why hide, Rob?


No rioting in Bob's shitty looking street (Line) !. Nothing to looth there  :-\

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - Hero - Self Defense or Murder? Discuss
« Reply #170 on: August 29, 2020, 04:12:06 PM »
Only a white grievance voter would hail this 17 year old domestic terrorist as "a hero"
Facts don't really matter to trumptards

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btw - dearth why is your face black?

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - Hero - Self Defense or Murder? Discuss
« Reply #171 on: August 29, 2020, 04:13:28 PM »
nice right wing narrative, the truth is that this triggered domestic terrorist murdered 2 civilians as a result of listening to "dear leader"



The only gripe I have is he didn’t kill more of these piece of shits, wouldn’t bat an eye if he wiped out 20 or more including you

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - Hero - Self Defense or Murder? Discuss
« Reply #172 on: August 29, 2020, 04:16:54 PM »
nice right wing narrative, the truth is that this triggered domestic terrorist murdered 2 civilians as a result of listening to "dear leader"



bitch dearth (soon to be ID, just like BOB) is gone emotional  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - Hero - Self Defense or Murder? Discuss
« Reply #174 on: August 29, 2020, 04:50:43 PM »
nice right wing narrative, the truth is that this triggered domestic terrorist murdered 2 civilians as a result of listening to "dear leader"



Trump told people to go out with guns and defend the city. Didn't he offer to provide Federal protection to any city that wanted it? Who were the rioters and looters listening too and told to go out and destroy other people's property?

What would you do if you had a business there?