Years ago as in 5 to 6 years ago, whereas he already had been competing for some while and was already firm in what he felt brought the best package to stage... it wasnt like he was a novice experimenting with it... he knew what he was doing and obviously felt bad about it casue he condemns the hell out of it. But I like Milos and his tips are helpful and he is one of the only ones to face the music.