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https://www.yahoo.com/news/analysis-taliban-advances-china-lays-044110740.html

"The Taliban's momentum as U.S. forces withdraw is awkward for China, which has blamed religious extremism as a destabilizing force in its western Xinjiang region and has long worried that Taliban-controlled territory would be used to harbour separatist forces."

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Re: As Taliban advances, China lays groundwork to accept an awkward reality
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2021, 02:20:18 PM »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/analysis-taliban-advances-china-lays-044110740.html

"The Taliban's momentum as U.S. forces withdraw is awkward for China, which has blamed religious extremism as a destabilizing force in its western Xinjiang region and has long worried that Taliban-controlled territory would be used to harbour separatist forces."


Taliban is 11km away from Kabul  :P

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Re: As Taliban advances, China lays groundwork to accept an awkward reality
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2021, 03:24:08 PM »
I’m sure if we just stay there for another 20 years we could straighten that place out. 😂😂

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Re: As Taliban advances, China lays groundwork to accept an awkward reality
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2021, 06:12:48 PM »
Things are becoming complicated:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/afghanistan-withdrawal-biden-pakistan-taliban-russia-china-belt-and-road-cpec-economic-corridor-11628868392?mod=opinion_lead_pos7



The Taliban’s Afghan Advance Spells Trouble for Pakistan and China
Instability threatens the government in Islamabad and Beijing’s economic program in Central Asia.

The Taliban are taking over city after city in Afghanistan at a stunning speed. But as the U.S. found in 2001, it’s one thing to topple a regime, another to set up a stable new one. Even if the Taliban can negotiate a formal return to power, the country will remain chaotic for a long time, with serious implications for the region, especially for Pakistan and China—in different but geopolitically significant ways.

The impact will be most immediate for Pakistan, which is already feeling it. In the past two decades the Taliban have gone from being a proxy of Islamabad to a threat. When Washington toppled the Taliban in late 2001, Pakistan saw it as a major foreign-policy loss even though it cooperated with the U.S. Islamabad continued to view the Afghan jihadist movement as an ally even in 2007-14, when it faced a major insurgency on its own soil from the Pakistani Taliban rebels. For more than a decade the “good vs. bad Taliban” narrative dominated the national conversation, distinguishing between those who fought in Afghanistan and those who sought to topple the Pakistani state.

It wasn’t until early last month that the country’s top two generals—the army chief and the head of Inter-Services Intelligence—acknowledged, in a rare briefing to opposition members of Parliament, that the Afghan and Pakistani Taliban were “two faces of the same coin.” These remarks underscore that the Pakistani elite now fears its erstwhile proxies because their own country has been deeply penetrated by the Taliban ideology.

The Taliban comeback in Afghanistan will galvanize many Islamist actors in Pakistan to emulate the Afghan jihadist movement. It will be a huge challenge for a terribly weakened Islamic Republic of Pakistan to sustain itself with an Islamic emirate next door. Only a few years ago, and at great cost in blood and treasure, was Islamabad able to take back large swathes of its territory near the Afghan border from Taliban rebels. Those gains are at risk of being lost again.

Since the end of major military operations against Taliban insurgents in 2015, Pakistan has been increasingly dependent on China for its economic recovery. The biggest project of China’s Belt and Road Initiative is the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, in which Beijing has invested tens of billions of dollars. The fate of CPEC has increasingly come into question, especially in recent weeks with growing attacks, likely by Pakistani Taliban, targeting Chinese workers in the country. From Beijing’s point of view, a spillover of insecurity from Afghanistan will undermine its investments in Pakistan.

But a post-American Afghanistan also threatens Chinese interests outside Pakistan. For many years Beijing benefited from the U.S. military presence in Afghanistan. China pushed ahead with its Belt and Road plans in Central Asia because the U.S. was ensuring that violence was contained within Afghanistan. In March Beijing announced that it would invest as much as $400 billion in Iran over 25 years in anticipation that a new nuclear deal would open Iran for business.

The U.S. decision to withdraw from Afghanistan has plunged China’s business plans in the region into uncertainty. Each of these Chinese projects is at risk of the violence radiating out of Afghanistan. And China isn’t alone in scrambling for solutions. This week Russian troops conducted joint exercises with forces from Tajikistan and Uzbekistan on their borders with Afghanistan. But China has far more at stake than Russia, and unlike the Kremlin the People’s Liberation Army has never deployed a multidivisional force to maintain security beyond its borders.

China doesn’t have good options. It will work with Pakistan, Iran, Russia and the Central Asian nations to limit the disruption of its economic interests by the Afghan chaos. But each of these nations will be struggling to protect its own interests. This is why we see the Chinese enhancing their diplomatic ties with the Taliban. On Thursday U.S. News reported that China is prepared to recognize a Taliban regime even if it takes the country over militarily. This is in sharp contrast with the position of most other international and regional players, which have made clear that they would recognize a Taliban-dominated government only if it is formed as part of a negotiated settlement.

As we have seen in so many situations during the past two decades in places like Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen and Libya, regime change is a terribly messy process. Weak regimes can be toppled; replacing them is the hard part. It is only a matter of time before the Afghan state collapses, unleashing chaos that will spill beyond its borders. All of Afghanistan’s neighbors will be affected to varying degrees, but Pakistan and China have the most to lose.

Mr. Bokhari is director of analytical development at the Newlines Institute for Strategy and Policy and a national-security and foreign-policy specialist at the University of Ottawa’s Professional Development Institute.

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Re: As Taliban advances, China lays groundwork to accept an awkward reality
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2021, 01:40:24 PM »
Then let Pakistan and China send troops.

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Re: As Taliban advances, China lays groundwork to accept an awkward reality
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2021, 01:43:59 PM »
I'm looking forward to seeing China's President Xi wearing Taliban style headgarb.

When in Rome...

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Re: As Taliban advances, China lays groundwork to accept an awkward reality
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2021, 02:08:54 PM »


Taliban is in Kabul !.

Ask Joe Biden for more details !.

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Re: As Taliban advances, China lays groundwork to accept an awkward reality
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2021, 03:04:44 PM »
I'm looking forward to Kabul opening for tourism.

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Re: As Taliban advances, China lays groundwork to accept an awkward reality
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2021, 03:13:32 PM »
I'm looking forward to seeing China's President Xi wearing Taliban style headgarb.

When in Rome...


China already recognize Islamic Emirates Afghanistan !.

(CNN will report this in 4 -5 days)

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Re: As Taliban advances, China lays groundwork to accept an awkward reality
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2021, 03:16:11 PM »
I'm looking forward to Kabul opening for tourism.

Great place to meet Bob Straw,funk41,Howard .............. 8)

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Re: As Taliban advances, China lays groundwork to accept an awkward reality
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2021, 06:30:12 PM »
It bears repeating:

Joe Biden wasn't elected, he was selected. 

And this is what the world gets when the Leader of the Free World is supplanted by the leader of the freak world.