I bet half of you didn't even lift today

[bhank]

No legs or back right Bhank?        

I asked if you had abs because yes while you appear to be in pretty decent shape you still have not shown your midsection which is what actually tells the story especially as we get older.

[Soul Crusher]

That's the point. Just admit you take steroids.  Nobody cares

I don’t take anything other than I listed.   

[bhank]

I don’t take anything other than I listed.   

Really you don't drink water or eat meat because it is all contaminated with hormones

[bhank]

That's the point. Just admit you take steroids.  Nobody cares

You do realize steroids don't magically turn 250lb slobs in Arnold yes? I know you like to think the only difference between you a person who has never exercised their entire life and a bodybuilder is a magic pill but it's not. You can take everything and train all day everyday it's already too late you are a slob for life at this point.

Why not start by putting down the whiskey and going to the gym today you can at least raise your endorphins and feel better

[webstar]

You do realize steroids don't magically turn 250lb slobs in Arnold yes? I know you like to think the only difference between you a person who has never exercised their entire life and a bodybuilder is a magic pill but it's not. You can take everything and train all day everyday it's already too late you are a slob for life at this point.

you need a new coach..

my first coach John Oregan had me loaded up on gear i trained 2 days a week sometimes 1 and grew like a weed.

[Primemuscle]

Yeah I will shave and put some product in my hair on contest day but not for you gay fucktwats

Did I ask you to shave? No. I could care less if you shaved or not. I may be bisexual, but I still have standards and you don't meet them. Sorry fella with the oversized ego. 

[bhank]

you need a new coach..

my first coach John Oregan had me loaded up on gear i trained 2 days a week sometimes 1 and grew like a weed.

Coaches are for mentally week people who don't take responsibility for themselves

[webstar]

Coaches are for mentally week people who don't take responsibility for themselves

okay Shawn Ray.

Ronnie, Ray, kamali, trey brewer, flex, flex lewis all have/had coaches...

[Grape Ape]

Really you don't drink water or eat meat because it is all contaminated with hormones

Not if you consider the source when purchasing.

[robcguns]

okay Shawn Ray.

Ronnie, Ray, kamali, trey brewer, flex, flex lewis all have/had coaches...

Hahaha at trey brewer and kamali

[webstar]

Hahaha at trey brewer and kamali

haha threw them gems in there...

i will also add Ben White, Marcus Haley, Tricky Jackson, Bill Wilmore and Craig Richardson all had coaches too.

[IroNat]

Yeah I will shave and put some product in my hair on contest day but not for you gay fucktwats

[bhank]

okay Shawn Ray.

Ronnie, Ray, kamali, trey brewer, flex, flex lewis all have/had coaches...

Shawn Ray didn't and have you seen interviews with the above? Flex and Ronnie talked like children in the 90s it was like watching a 20 year old Mike Tyson trying to speak to reporters. These are not rocket scientist with strong sense of self independence and awareness and reliance. They were basically mentally socially retarded toddlers who lifted weights. And now all these idiots who trusted their "coaches" have liver and kidney failure and are losing fucking limbs brilliant

[bhank]

Not if you consider the source when purchasing.

Bullshit your tap water is contaminated the rivers are contaminated there is no clean water left they can't get this stuff out waste water treatment facilities don't remove it

https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/2016-12/documents/lenehan-hormones_in_water_using_spe_and_lc-ms.pdf

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/03/160304092230.htm

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/study-confirms-estrogen-in-water-from-the-pill-devastating-to-fish-populati/

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/160203-feminized-fish-endocrine-disruption-hormones-wildlife-refuges

https://hormoneimbalanced.com/chemestro.html

https://patch.com/new-jersey/brick/intersex-fish-raise-concerns-estrogen-nj-drinking-water-0

[Soul Crusher]

You do realize steroids don't magically turn 250lb slobs in Arnold yes? I know you like to think the only difference between you a person who has never exercised their entire life and a bodybuilder is a magic pill but it's not. You can take everything and train all day everyday it's already too late you are a slob for life at this point.

Why not start by putting down the whiskey and going to the gym today you can at least raise your endorphins and feel better

I love training and have since I was a kid.  Its been my main pursuit now for 33 years.  My first show was in 1997 at 22 YO  - Ronnie guest posed.   I've been training for for literally 3 decades now.   

[bhank]

I love training and have since I was a kid.  Its been my main pursuit now for 33 years.  My first show was in 1997 at 22 YO  - Ronnie guest posed.   I've been training for for literally 3 decades now.

Yeah great so have I and that message was to shizzo not you. Again you are in pretty good shape but I think it is from lifting weights not doing burpees and ruck marches. We are both in pretty good shape do you actually have abs still we don't know I do. But whatever we are about the same age FFMI and development so not sure what you want to argue about. I am a little heavier because you are a little shorter. But when you pretend lifting weights is vanity and not training that is nonsense.

I didn't have a single drink from 19-21 years old in college because I took my lifting and training that serious. I went from 170-220lbs in that time period and have maintaned it more or less since.

[Grape Ape]

Bullshit your tap water is contaminated the rivers are contaminated there is no clean water left they can't get this stuff out waste water treatment facilities don't remove it

https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/2016-12/documents/lenehan-hormones_in_water_using_spe_and_lc-ms.pdf

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/03/160304092230.htm

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/study-confirms-estrogen-in-water-from-the-pill-devastating-to-fish-populati/

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/160203-feminized-fish-endocrine-disruption-hormones-wildlife-refuges

https://hormoneimbalanced.com/chemestro.html

https://patch.com/new-jersey/brick/intersex-fish-raise-concerns-estrogen-nj-drinking-water-0

Who said tap water.

However, you did take the time to find six links to post.

Abnormal.

Carry on.

[bhank]

Who said tap water.  And you ignored the meat part.

However, you did take the time to find six links to post.

Abnormal.

Carry on.

The fuck do you think the animals you eat are drinking? The worldwide environment is contaminated with hormones and oestrogenic chemicals you can't avoid them

[webstar]

Shawn Ray didn't and have you seen interviews with the above? Flex and Ronnie talked like children in the 90s it was like watching a 20 year old Mike Tyson trying to speak to reporters. These are not rocket scientist with strong sense of self independence and awareness and reliance. They were basically mentally socially retarded toddlers who lifted weights. And now all these idiots who trusted their "coaches" have liver and kidney failure and are losing fucking limbs brilliant

No wonder why you are jobless. Your reading comprehension is dog shit...

I said: okay, shawn ray- because he is anti coaching.. so i was inferring you are shawn ray.

do you follow? that der George Mason edumacation.


What about Jay full head of hair unlike you had a coach... ronnie is healthly as an ox its the football injures. Lee preist, milos the mind all healthy and well, dexter jackson, joel stubbs, gustavo badell, dennis wolf all healthy.

[Grape Ape]

The fuck do you think the animals you eat are drinking?

I only eat grass fed organic uncured meat where the grass has been watered with only the finest waters from glacial springs, and the rainwater that feeds it runs through covered filters guaranteeing 100% purity.

Lurkernomore gave me the link where to get it

PM him if you want it

[Soul Crusher]

Yeah great so have I and that message was to shizzo not you. Again you are in pretty good shape but I think it is from lifting weights not doing burpees and ruck marches. We are both in pretty good shape do you actually have abs still we don't know I do. But whatever we are about the same age FFMI and development so not sure what you want to argue about. I am a little heavier because you are a little shorter. But when you pretend lifting weights is vanity and not training that is nonsense.

I said lifting for vanity is not the same as being "in shape."   I was referring to the many BB dying left and right who look like they  are in shape, but are anything but. 

And yes you are right about size for me.   I was straight BB and hypertrophy for many years early on.   I advise all the young guys in my gym to not train the way I do now if they want to get bigger and straight size.   

[bhank]

No wonder why you are jobless. Your reading comprehension is dog shit...

I said: okay, shawn ray- because he is anti coaching.. so i was inferring you are shawn ray.

do you follow? that der George Mason edumacation.


What about Jay full head of hair unlike you had a coach... ronnie is healthly as an ox its the football injures. Lee preist, milos the mind all healthy and well, dexter jackson, joel stubbs, gustavo badell, dennis wolf all healthy.

So you know all these guys doctors and have reviewed all their bloodwork and cardiology reports you know their liver and kidney functions? Half those dudes look like they have jaundice.

My dad was bald at my age and never touched a weight

[webstar]

Yeah great so have I and that message was to shizzo not you. Again you are in pretty good shape but I think it is from lifting weights not doing burpees and ruck marches. We are both in pretty good shape do you actually have abs still we don't know I do. But whatever we are about the same age FFMI and development so not sure what you want to argue about. I am a little heavier because you are a little shorter. But when you pretend lifting weights is vanity and not training that is nonsense.

I didn't have a single drink from 19-21 years old in college because I took my lifting and training that serious. I went from 170-220lbs in that time period and have maintaned it more or less since.

You said you were using a cane and anorexic during these years. cant keep up with the lies yourself ? put on 30+ lbs using a cane?

[IroNat]

I only eat grass fed organic uncured meat where the grass has been watered with only the finest waters from glacial springs, and the rainwater that feeds it runs through covered filters guaranteeing 100% purity.

Lurkernomore gave me the link where to get it

PM him if you want it

But do you rinse the meat?

[Grape Ape]

But do you rinse the meat?

gayer than asking a dude what he does with his meat