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[OAK]

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Ok. I understand the first 2 points, but I don't understand this point at all:

It's about power. NIH, CDC, WHO, China..the US is QUICKLY being taken over by China thanks to Biden but the "Build Back Better" tag line isn't just a US tagline...it's world wide and calling it a "reset". You can take from there.

Are you saying China is using the Coronavirus to take over the US???

[OAK]

It’s been over a month since my wife and I had it. I’m still fighting certain after affects

So you've had the virus???

[Primemuscle]

yep, the only ones that get any airtime..

I'd rather listen to what "the experts" have to say than some Joe Shmoe who likely knows nothing about viruses other than from personal experience.

[joswift]

Ok.

So what's going on here? Why isn't the government following what the scientists recommend? Any examples?

I have been through this ad infinitum, Im not doing it again.
Try this one...

Most infections occur in the home so why would scientists tell people to stay in them after walking around unmasked for 7 weeks?

[joswift]

I'd rather listen to what "the experts" have to say than some Joe Shmoe who likely knows nothing about viruses other than from personal experience.

there are some experts here

try reading what they have to say

https://gbdeclaration.org

[Primemuscle]

there are some experts here

try reading what they have to say

https://gbdeclaration.org

Very interesting. This declaration was written a year ago. Do you know whether it has been updated? While most of the COVID deaths in Oregon remain among the old and infirmed, there seems to be increasing numbers of younger people, including children dying from COVID. In the declaration the focus seems to be on lockdowns. Lockdowns in many places have been lifted. That is definitely true where I live. Aside from people wearing masks in stores, doctor's offices, and some other mostly indoor places, the world around me looks pretty normal. Granted it might be different where you live.

[OAK]

I have been through this ad infinitum, Im not doing it again.
Try this one...

Most infections occur in the home so why would scientists tell people to stay in them after walking around unmasked for 7 weeks?

I’m trying to understand what’s driving your belief system.

Are scientists wrong or are they corrupt?

98% of Doctors took the vaccine. How do you explain this?

How did the world get things soo wrong?

[D.O.A.]

Live where I am and let’s see how calm you remain.

If it gets too bad I come and save you(r) Booty!

[Dave D]

I’m trying to understand what’s driving your belief system.

Are scientists wrong or are they corrupt?

98% of Doctors took the vaccine. How do you explain this?

How did the world get things soo wrong?

Oak you keep saying 98% of doctors took the vaccine, you said this about Australia as well. Where are these stats coming from?

[Primemuscle]

Live where I am and let’s see how calm you remain.

You are right. You most often have to be there to know how bad something is. This is not a trick question, I am genuinely interested; how are the Australian government's mandates and restrictions impacting your life? Awhile back, you mentioned travel restrictions including within your state. What other things have a direct impact on you? What are you doing to cope with them? Are you employed? If so, have these restrictions affected your job and your income?

Being retired, when Oregon was going through the most stringent 'restrictions' (our governor didn't like to refer to them as mandates), just short of a lockdown, I was barely impacted. Aside from the fact that wearing a mask makes me feel like I can't breathe and fogs my glasses so I can't see plus not being able to hang out with friends, go out to eat and go to the gym, the restrictions had very little impact on me. One real bummer is that my son and his family live in Germany and I've missed being able to attend some milestone events with them because of travel restrictions and my own concern about being confined in a airplane for 13 hours with people who might be unknowingly be sharing COVID with us other passengers.

I see the pandemic as the problem, not what our government or public pressure is doing. Considering this, my main focus is on doing whatever is possible to end the pandemic.....not saying COVID because there probably is no way to end it anytime in the foreseeable future. 

[Coach is Back!]

Ok.

So what's going on here? Why isn't the government following what the scientists recommend? Any examples?

A good example is what I said about Newsom not implementing these mandates until the NEXT school year. There is zero scientific evidence for doing this considering the almost zero death rate, but you rarely hear in the media about death because it's low...what you hear about is the infection rate. Why? it's not hard to figure out. 

[Primemuscle]

A good example is what I said about Newsom not implementing these mandates until the NEXT school year. There is zero scientific evidence for doing this considering the almost zero death rate, but you rarely hear in the media about death because it's low...what you hear about is the infection rate. Why? it's not hard to figure out.

Well, this suggests you've figured out why you mainly hear about the infection rate. How about sharing what you've learned with regards to this. Also what is a low death rate, in your opinion? Is 700,000 deaths in the U.S. over the course of this thing, low in your opinion? Has anyone in your circle of friends and family died from COVID-19 or complications relating to it?

[Coach is Back!]

Ok. I understand the first 2 points, but I don't understand this point at all:

It's about power. NIH, CDC, WHO, China..the US is QUICKLY being taken over by China thanks to Biden but the "Build Back Better" tag line isn't just a US tagline...it's world wide and calling it a "reset". You can take from there.

Are you saying China is using the Coronavirus to take over the US???

Yes..and the Biden administration is complying. But also look at Canada and Austrailia. Australia has gone full commie and Canada is right there. The pastor that was dragged out of his Church and arrested for not wearing a mask. So, no. It's not in the least about the "science"

[Coach is Back!]

Well, this suggests you've figured out why you mainly hear about the infection rate. How about sharing what you've learned with regards to this. Also what is a low death rate, in your opinion? Is 700,000 deaths in the U.S. over the course of this thing, low in your opinion? Has anyone in your circle of friends and family died from COVID-19 or complications relating to it?

Whats the math out of 340million people??

[OAK]

Whats the math out of 340million people??

Does it matter?

If so please explain.

[Coach is Back!]

Does it matter?

If so please explain.

Of course it does. That’s .01% of the population and if you take the numbers out by the CDC only 6% of that were from actual “Covid” which comes out to 42,000. That’s about 20,000 less than the 2018-2019 influenza season which was something like 62,000. It’s all bullshit.

[OAK]

Of course it does. That’s .01% of the population and if you take the numbers out by the CDC only 6% of that were from actual “Covid” which comes out to 42,000. That’s about 20,000 less than the 2018-2019 influenza season which was something like 62,000. It’s all bullshit.

…how only 6% from COVID?

[Coach is Back!]

…how only 6% from COVID?

Only covid. Not “covid related”

[pamith]

Downright evil

[OAK]

Only covid. Not “covid related”

 How were the influenza deaths calculated. Did they ignore comorbidities?

[Coach is Back!]

How were the influenza deaths calculated. Did they ignore comorbidities?

Don’t know. Influenza was never political at any point that I’m aware of. Those numbers and prior were pre-Chinavirus in a non-election year

[OAK]

Don’t know. Influenza was never political at any point that I’m aware of. Those numbers and prior were pre-Chinavirus in a non-election year

If you don’t know could it be possible that your “COVID only” stat comparison to the influenza numbers was wrong?

[Coach is Back!]

If you don’t know could it be possible that your “COVID only” stat comparison to the influenza numbers was wrong?

Mmmmmm…no.

[OAK]

Mmmmmm…no.

If you don’t know how the influenza stats were calculated how do you know they weren’t “wrong” too?

[Coach is Back!]

If you don’t know how the influenza stats were calculated how do you know they weren’t “wrong” too?

I already told you