UFC's Dana White Brutal Owning Of De La Hoya

[pellius]

I don't even follow the UFC.  He and Oscar are good targets. Outside of that I could care less.

Props on your honesty. That makes sense.

[pellius]

UFC is a monopoly not a free market idiot in a free market other promoters would purse bid on your fight line in boxing

No, idiot, there are other MMA promotions. Being under contract does not make it a monopoly.

[pellius]

It is not a monopoly.  There are other MMA organizations but most competitors want to compete in UFC because it's the best.

Every post that grandpa Bhanks makes is thrown back in his face.

[Humble Narcissist]

Every post that grandpa Bhanks makes is thrown back in his face.

It won't be the last.

[oldtimer1]

Nobody is forcing anybody to fight for the UFC. Anybody that has competed in martial art tournaments not only does it for no pay, but they also pay to compete. Most people who train in MMA do it for free and end one paying a lot to train and compete. In my day, it would cost $60 to compete in a BJJ tournament and paid $240 a month for groups classes and a once week private session with Rickson. You get paid by the amount of money you generate. Many fighters have become millionaires in the UFC. Something they would not have done doing anything else in their life. All transactions are between the buyer and the seller. It's nobody else's business to tell a buyer how much they should pay or how much the seller should receive.

If competing in the UFC is so horrible that fighters are treated so unfairly and exploited, how come thousands and thousands devote their lives to brutal training and competition to be able to fight in the UFC? That their ultimate dream is to walk down that ramp and enter the Octagon under the UFC banner?

Dana White grew that sport into a massive worldwide empire and created a lot of millionaires in their own right and enabled people to support their families and increased opportunities and pay far beyond what the fighters got during the Tank Abbot era. It came so close to failing altogether.

And when our government told him he can't have his events anymore, he just said "fuck you" and built his own empire in Abu Dhabi keeping athletes and employees active.

And LOL @ calling Dana a drug dealer and a cuck when it is well known that it is Oscar that's the coke head and a crossdressing cuck.

It's the only game in town. Think Belator is paying? Of course those that want to make a living off of MMA have to grovel to Dana.  For every millionaire fighter in the UFC there are guys fighting on the main card for 200K I bet. I don't know the exact figure because by contract they can't bring it up without being sued.  Fight for a boxing championship and guys a getting paid 5-10- 20plus million for the fight. I see the pay per view numbers are very high for the UFC so they are taking in the bucks. I bet Jones dosen't get more than 2 million to fight and he's the best fighter they have.

[GymnJuice]

It is not a monopoly.  There are other MMA organizations but most competitors want to compete in UFC because it's the best.

This reminds me of NFL vs AFL.  NBA vs ABA. 

Dana did make some good points.  He still looks like an average fat guy on TRT.

[Notomorrow]

De la Hoya has a very bad reputation in the business world of combat sports. He has been in and out of court multiple times, and just lost the biggest commodity in boxing, Canelo Alvarez who said the exact same thing White is saying, that Oscar is an alcoholic drug addict who doesn't know how to run the business. Why would a guy like Alvarez, with a $300 million+ contract with Golden Boy go to court and demand to be released from that contract?
     As far as fighter pay, it's a lot more complicated than greed. If you pay a main event too much, undercard fighters, advertisers, venues, ppv streams, etc will get less and you have problems. That's what De la Hoya did with Canelo. His huge contract made the PPV distributor complain and want money comparable to what Canelo was getting, so Oscar didn't now how to run the business and lost his main attraction. Look at Mcmahon's WBF experiment. Threw tons of money at the bodybuilders to get the names, but then didn't have proper money to build the brand. Then Vince tried the opposite approach with the XFL and had no name players but a shitload of money in promotion and branding and failed again. It's a fine balancing act to run a sports/entertainment business and Dana White is a master at it.

[pellius]

It's the only game in town. Think Belator is paying? Of course those that want to make a living off of MMA have to grovel to Dana.  For every millionaire fighter in the UFC there are guys fighting on the main card for 200K I bet. I don't know the exact figure because by contract they can't bring it up without being sued.  Fight for a boxing championship and guys a getting paid 5-10- 20plus million for the fight. I see the pay per view numbers are very high for the UFC so they are taking in the bucks. I bet Jones dosen't get more than 2 million to fight and he's the best fighter they have.

And those guys making only 200 grand, what else would they be doing? Being a bouncer, personal trainer, maybe a cop or fireman if they are somewhat intelligent.

Again, it's a free market. What do you want to do? Pass a law forcing the UFC to pay a certain amount to every fighter? If so, how much and who should decide? There are a lot of fighters on contract that you've never heard of. If you substantially increase the cost for a fighter's contract would that be an incentive to increase or decrease the number of fighters you have on the payroll? It took 10 years for Dustin Poirier to make a name for himself. Charles Olivier fought for 11 years before finally getting a title shot. Will either of those two have been kept on the payroll if the UFC was forced to pay them a certain amount they would not pay giving a free market?