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Re: Kali Muscle Heart Attack
« Reply #75 on: November 08, 2021, 12:37:28 PM »
Steroids have been a factor for as long as we can remember. Nothing new.

There has been an increase in the frequency of these events in the BB world, meaning something  has changed.  My guess is the vaccine. It's known to cause clotting and inflammation.


Meadows has/had Health issues, heart problems before Any vaccines, he was a walking time bomb

Rhoden, wasn’t vaccinated, if I remember throughout his career he was very small off-season, he would grow into shows, lately he has been walking around at 300 off season, and him being 46, wasn’t going to end well

Everything in bbing happening is an increase in all dosages, and careless protocols, diuretics, GH, insulin, much more than any decade

People can deny all they want but bodies are going to continue piling up more than decades past

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Re: Kali Muscle Heart Attack
« Reply #76 on: November 08, 2021, 12:38:57 PM »

Meadows has/had Health issues, heart problems before Any vaccines, he was a walking time bomb

Rhoden, wasn’t vaccinated, if I remember throughout his career he was very small off-season, he would grow into shows, lately he has been walking around at 300 off season, and him being 46, wasn’t going to end well

Everything in bbing happening is an increase in all dosages, and careless protocols, diuretics, GH, insulin, much more than any decade

People can deny all they want but bodies are going to continue piling up more than decades past

Protocols . . . . . . . .     ::)  ::)  ::)

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Re: Kali Muscle Heart Attack
« Reply #77 on: November 08, 2021, 12:50:12 PM »

She's dead, like Straw's your sense of humor.

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Re: Kali Muscle Heart Attack
« Reply #78 on: November 08, 2021, 01:08:12 PM »
Its sad that Kali and Rhoden had heart attack but statistically speaking it's not that unusual for people to have heart attacks. We all have a very different health history. It doesn't mean everyone who lifts weights is going to have a heart attack. So everyone needs to settle down before promoting we all go vegan and take up Yoga

Like always, you are completely off subject.

Not a single person is saying bodybuilding is bad for your health.

It's the high amounts of gear/drugs and food for extended periods of time.

Your day is coming too.

Hopefully sooner rather than later.

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Re: Kali Muscle Heart Attack
« Reply #79 on: November 08, 2021, 01:11:29 PM »
Like always, you are completely off subject.

Not a single person is saying bodybuilding is bad for your health.

It's the high amounts of gear/drugs and food for extended periods of time.

Your day is coming too.

Hopefully sooner rather than later.

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Re: Kali Muscle Heart Attack
« Reply #80 on: November 08, 2021, 01:16:48 PM »
Bhanks saving grace is that he despite all the steroids, growth hormones and insulin still carries the mass of a natural long distance swimmer

Not entirely accurate but yes it is the added weight these guys carry more than anything else that puts stress on the system. Luckily my total cholesterol is only 137 and like you said I am not 300lbs. But my weight fluctuates and absolutely you can feel your heart working harder when you are 20lbs heavier.

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Re: Kali Muscle Heart Attack
« Reply #81 on: November 08, 2021, 01:28:18 PM »
I am so hard I can't be faded

Do you think all your health problems will get better with age?

Like a fine wine?

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Re: Kali Muscle Heart Attack
« Reply #82 on: November 08, 2021, 01:34:38 PM »
Too much hyphy mud.
Too many pricks.
Too many (meat) injections.

Hopefully Chuck Badger will be saved from his life of sin.

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Re: Kali Muscle Heart Attack
« Reply #83 on: November 08, 2021, 01:48:36 PM »
What I don't get is that every IFBB pro  wants to be ripped and huge well in to their 40's ...

I remember back in the fall 1989 , Frank Zane at age 47, was ripped , but around 170 lbs at 5'9" and that was a big deal (back then) ...

Rhoden at about same height and age as Zane was pushing 300 lbs


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Re: Kali Muscle Heart Attack
« Reply #84 on: November 08, 2021, 01:55:54 PM »
I am so hard I can't be faded

too bad your hairline thinks otherwise

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Re: Kali Muscle Heart Attack
« Reply #85 on: November 08, 2021, 02:07:01 PM »
is there any sport where you can continue to look the same into your 40s-50s?

not sure why bodybuilding would be the exception - especially when people talk about Dexter being some gem - I get it but he's just the exception

47 is bodybuilding seems to be like the 27 in music artists in the 70s/and Jesus was 27 I think , anyway, seems like being healthy is a NORM, something normal people do by not overconsuming ANYTHING in life - drugs, food, attention, plastic trophies, admiration from gay men

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Re: Kali Muscle Heart Attack
« Reply #86 on: November 08, 2021, 02:33:12 PM »
is there any sport where you can continue to look the same into your 40s-50s?

not sure why bodybuilding would be the exception
- especially when people talk about Dexter being some gem - I get it but he's just the exception

47 is bodybuilding seems to be like the 27 in music artists in the 70s/and Jesus was 27 I think , anyway, seems like being healthy is a NORM, something normal people do by not overconsuming ANYTHING in life - drugs, food, attention, plastic trophies, admiration from gay men

Bodybuilders try to look big .lean and dense as they age ....and they manage to do so , because its about upping the dose ... Plain and simple

I mean, in MLB, take Albert Pujols he is 41,  and could probably hit 25 HRs if he's allowed to play an entire season ( not anywhere the HRs he hit when he was younger) but he is still somewhat competitive among younger opponents/rivals...

In Bodybuilding Sadly you are your OWN enemy;  Cali Muscle,J. Meadows, Piana, Rhoden etc  all of them in their late 40's not competing and yet they're putting the same toxic shit in to their bodies as they did when they were in their 20's .




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Re: Kali Muscle Heart Attack
« Reply #87 on: November 08, 2021, 02:36:34 PM »
Bodybuilders try to look big .lean and dense as they age ....and they manage to do so , because its about upping the dose ... Plain and simple

I mean, in MLB, take Albert Pujols he is 41,  and could probably hit 25 HRs if he's allowed to play an entire season ( not anywhere the HRs he hit when he was younger) but he is still somewhat competitive among younger opponents/rivals...

In Bodybuilding Sadly you are your OWN enemy;  Cali Muscle,J. Meadows, Piana, Rhoden etc  all of them in their late 40's not competing and yet they're putting the same toxic shit in to their bodies as they did when they were in their 20's .




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Re: Kali Muscle Heart Attack
« Reply #88 on: November 08, 2021, 02:48:51 PM »
Heart attacks honestly are not as scary in terms of bodybuilding as is heart failure. Heart failure means the excess weight is causing the heart to work harder and this can lead to edema, blood clotting, and eventual stroke or sudden cardiac arrest(not a heart attack). It often does this through causing an arrhythmia, which also can lead to clotting and stroke.  This is where a sudden death can occur.

A heart attack usually comes from atherosclerosis, a buildup of plaque which doesn't happen overnight. It usually takes years of coronary arteries becoming narrower and narrower from bad cholesterol,etc. Kali Muscle had near 100% blockage of his arteries. So did McCarver. This is preventable through some basic medical tests(angiogram, blood tests, stress test,etc). Unless completely genetic, these heart attacks can be prevented. But once you have a heart attack, there is severe damage done to the heart and now you are looking at heart failure, basically a weak heart. This causes clotting issues, strokes, and sudden cardiac arrest like Meadows. That's the instant death out of nowhere stuff and at that point not much you can do. These guys are not monitoring their health as they claim they are.

It's now sheik to claim that "throughout my whole career I always got bloodwork and got a physical exam at least 2-3 times a year". Bullshit. If a halfway decent doctor saw really bad cholesterol numbers, bad calcium channel scores, etc., he would probably order some heart tests to see if there was coronary blockage. Same with kidneys. Basic check of not only creatinine but urea nitrogen, etc. and you'll know you're kidneys are at risk. Not these stories that "out of nowhere" you just had multiple organ failure.

So guys in their 40's and 50's with super bad cholesterol numbers weighing 300lbs, doing "dirty bulks" and not checking basic health parameters having heart attacks is really not that surprising. It certainly is preventable though. The likely culprit for heart attacks in bodybuilders, as boring as it sounds, is probably diet. Matarazzo talked about how he had LBS. of red meat per day to bulk. Piana and his Ben and Jerry's nightly. Given that anabolic steroids are known to make cholesterol values worse, the combination of horrible diet and ALOT of that type of food for years, with the contributing factor of steroids really makes perfect sense for heart attacks in bodybuilders. Same with high blood pressure and kidney failure.

Heart failure is a whole different story.


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Re: Kali Muscle Heart Attack
« Reply #89 on: November 08, 2021, 02:54:25 PM »
Heart attacks honestly are not as scary in terms of bodybuilding as is heart failure. Heart failure means the excess weight is causing the heart to work harder and this can lead to edema, blood clotting, and eventual stroke or sudden cardiac arrest(not a heart attack). It often does this through causing an arrhythmia, which also can lead to clotting and stroke.  This is where a sudden death can occur.

A heart attack usually comes from atherosclerosis, a buildup of plaque which doesn't happen overnight. It usually takes years of coronary arteries becoming narrower and narrower from bad cholesterol,etc. Kali Muscle had near 100% blockage of his arteries. So did McCarver. This is preventable through some basic medical tests(angiogram, blood tests, stress test,etc). Unless completely genetic, these heart attacks can be prevented. But once you have a heart attack, there is severe damage done to the heart and now you are looking at heart failure, basically a weak heart. This causes clotting issues, strokes, and sudden cardiac arrest like Meadows. That's the instant death out of nowhere stuff and at that point not much you can do. These guys are not monitoring their health as they claim they are.

It's now sheik to claim that "throughout my whole career I always got bloodwork and got a physical exam at least 2-3 times a year". Bullshit. If a halfway decent doctor saw really bad cholesterol numbers, bad calcium channel scores, etc., he would probably order some heart tests to see if there was coronary blockage. Same with kidneys. Basic check of not only creatinine but urea nitrogen, etc. and you'll know you're kidneys are at risk. Not these stories that "out of nowhere" you just had multiple organ failure.

So guys in their 40's and 50's with super bad cholesterol numbers weighing 300lbs, doing "dirty bulks" and not checking basic health parameters having heart attacks is really not that surprising. It certainly is preventable though. The likely culprit for heart attacks in bodybuilders, as boring as it sounds, is probably diet. Matarazzo talked about how he had LBS. of red meat per day to bulk. Piana and his Ben and Jerry's nightly. Given that anabolic steroids are known to make cholesterol values worse, the combination of horrible diet and ALOT of that type of food for years, with the contributing factor of steroids really makes perfect sense for heart attacks in bodybuilders. Same with high blood pressure and kidney failure.

Heart failure is a whole different story.

True....  However Bodybuilders rarely admit they have had a health scare at some point,  (if they can hide it) they will .




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Re: Kali Muscle Heart Attack
« Reply #90 on: November 08, 2021, 02:56:20 PM »
Just take up bowling, and golf

Those two are taken more serious as  athletes than Bodybuilders .


Sad but true



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Re: Kali Muscle Heart Attack
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Re: Kali Muscle Heart Attack
« Reply #92 on: November 08, 2021, 03:40:00 PM »
Those two are taken more serious as  athletes than Bodybuilders .


Sad but true



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Re: Kali Muscle Heart Attack
« Reply #93 on: November 08, 2021, 03:49:23 PM »
This is a good one.   Also with a window maker ie 100% left anterior descending artery (LAD) blockage bypass is the optimal treatment.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/is-angioplasty-plus-stenting-or-coronary-artery-bypass-surgery-better-for-treating-left-main-coronary-artery-disease-2020042719648


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Re: Kali Muscle Heart Attack
« Reply #94 on: November 08, 2021, 03:56:34 PM »
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Meadows has/had Health issues, heart problems before Any vaccines, he was a walking time bomb

Rhoden, wasn’t vaccinated, if I remember throughout his career he was very small off-season, he would grow into shows, lately he has been walking around at 300 off season, and him being 46, wasn’t going to end well

Everything in bbing happening is an increase in all dosages, and careless protocols, diuretics, GH, insulin, much more than any decade

People can deny all they want but bodies are going to continue piling up more than decades past

My suspicion is the vaccine can exasperate other issues and sides from the drugs, such as in Meadows' case.. We've had at least 3 well known bodybuilders die in the past 3 months and Kali as well. The dosages are high, but come on, everyone didn't just get in a huddle and decide to quadruple the dosages.

It's more than just the drugs....

You also don't know with 100% certainty that Rhoden wasn't vaccinated.

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Re: Kali Muscle Heart Attack
« Reply #95 on: November 08, 2021, 04:23:42 PM »
Is that deader than your Trumpy loving braincells?  Both of them?


Your hero Buttigieg said the USA's roads are racist today. Don't you have other things to worry about? This is the Transportation Secretary...you support that.

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Re: Kali Muscle Heart Attack
« Reply #96 on: November 08, 2021, 04:33:25 PM »
True....  However Bodybuilders rarely admit they have had a health scare at some point,  (if they can hide it) they will .




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To be fair, a lot of men are like this in general.

Refuse to believe anything bad can happen until it does. Then when it does they hide it because they don't want to be seen as weak.

Almost all BBer's are men and the ones who claim to be women are pretty much men anyway. ;D

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Re: Kali Muscle Heart Attack
« Reply #97 on: November 08, 2021, 04:51:51 PM »
Too much hyphy mud.
Too many pricks.
Too many (meat) injections.

Hopefully Chuck Badger will be saved from his life of sin.

Wasn't this shit just basically mega-dosing caffeine..?



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So guys in their 40's and 50's with super bad cholesterol numbers weighing 300lbs, doing "dirty bulks" and not checking basic health parameters having heart attacks is really not that surprising. It certainly is preventable though. The likely culprit for heart attacks in bodybuilders, as boring as it sounds, is probably diet. Matarazzo talked about how he had LBS. of red meat per day to bulk. Piana and his Ben and Jerry's nightly. Given that anabolic steroids are known to make cholesterol values worse, the combination of horrible diet and ALOT of that type of food for years, with the contributing factor of steroids really makes perfect sense for heart attacks in bodybuilders. Same with high blood pressure and kidney failure.

I think this is a solid point - I've never f**ked with GH, but I 've read a lot of times that it allows you to get away with eating all sorts without paying the price of added bodyfat/suet - externally - of course nobody knows what kind of accelerated internal build-up is being provoked with guys that go that route...

I'm not suggesting anyone should watch even 1 second of these below, but even a cursory glance at his channel shows a lot of these competitive eating style videos over the past couple of months - bro-science leads to me believe that if nothing else, this sort of sh1t had to be messing with his BP - I mean, surely..?





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Re: Kali Muscle Heart Attack
« Reply #98 on: November 08, 2021, 06:48:35 PM »

Your hero Buttigieg said the USA's roads are racist today. Don't you have other things to worry about? This is the Transportation Secretary...you support that.

Your hero said windmills cause cancer, we can nuke hurricanes, you can wash coal off, take fish tablets, signed his name to blank pages pretending they were important documents, jet planes were invisible, we took over airports during the American Revolution, and was invited to the World Series.

Your little hero said that.  You support that.  So just fuck right off with your sad ass attempt - at what again- and finish eating that shit.

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Re: Kali Muscle Heart Attack
« Reply #99 on: November 08, 2021, 07:05:12 PM »
Dr. Tells him to get checked out but he thought it was just dr.'s wanting money....to dumb to take professional advice and too vain to get off the gas. Early bets he will be in the deadpool 2022?
once this shit happens, its over. Deadpool 4 sure. All that Ramen Noodles he used to eat in prison and Coca Cola for fast energy is catching up.
I always thought Kali was entertaining and fun to watch but seemed also crazy as fuck.