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Re: The Covid Emergency is Over
« Reply #425 on: January 30, 2026, 08:21:44 PM »

they do lose money quite often on big failures in drug trials.

I did a five year stint in pharmacy financial planning, and went through the period where the pharmacies were basically printing money during what they called the "sweet spot", when a drug would go generic, but the PBMs would over compensate since they were clueless to what the actual cost of the drug was, due to the odd nature of the business (manufacturers selling to wholesalers, wholesalers selling to pharmacies, manufactures kicking back rebates outside of the wholesaler's knowledge, so the "true" price wasn't known).  Then I went through when that gravy train ended......right around the time lipitor was going generic.

I know the costs big pharma spends to get a drug to market, and how the drugs that make it are priced to recover the failures of others.

None of that absolves big pharma from what chaos is pointing out.  Use Vioxx as an example.

While these companies have produced legit medications that have improved quality of life, they are not above corruption.

I personally cannot trust them after the covid vax. You feel it was all "the best we knew at the time"....I feel there was too much information withheld, and the messaging around efficacy, effectiveness, and side effects was piss poor.

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Re: The Covid Emergency is Over
« Reply #426 on: Today at 07:14:27 AM »
I did a five year stint in pharmacy financial planning, and went through the period where the pharmacies were basically printing money during what they called the "sweet spot", when a drug would go generic, but the PBMs would over compensate since they were clueless to what the actual cost of the drug was, due to the odd nature of the business (manufacturers selling to wholesalers, wholesalers selling to pharmacies, manufactures kicking back rebates outside of the wholesaler's knowledge, so the "true" price wasn't known).  Then I went through when that gravy train ended......right around the time lipitor was going generic.

I know the costs big pharma spends to get a drug to market, and how the drugs that make it are priced to recover the failures of others.

None of that absolves big pharma from what chaos is pointing out.  Use Vioxx as an example.

While these companies have produced legit medications that have improved quality of life, they are not above corruption.

I personally cannot trust them after the covid vax. You feel it was all "the best we knew at the time"....I feel there was too much information withheld, and the messaging around efficacy, effectiveness, and side effects was piss poor.

They have produced all of the lifesaving medications used and all the legit medications used. They aren't above corruption obviously, nothing is.

It was using a new type of vaccine that was researched for cancer for the first time in history for a virus I think came from a lab so they knew it was a fucking nightmare at first. I do firmly believe that. It has many oddities with it, the long aspect of it and neurological damage is very unique in several senses.

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Re: The Covid Emergency is Over
« Reply #427 on: Today at 09:40:04 AM »
They have produced all of the lifesaving medications used and all the legit medications used. They aren't above corruption obviously, nothing is.

It was using a new type of vaccine that was researched for cancer for the first time in history for a virus I think came from a lab so they knew it was a fucking nightmare at first. I do firmly believe that. It has many oddities with it, the long aspect of it and neurological damage is very unique in several senses.

That's part of the issue.  There actually was a point in time if you said it came from a lab, you were vilified, demonetized, canceled etc....there are plenty of examples of youtube and such doing this.

And that is just for something completely benign.  It was worse if you questioned the vaccine, provided alternative ideas, challenged efficacy, etc......the whole thing was incompetence at best, nefarious at worst.

The communication from the government was not honest.  It was one option, and one option only.

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