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[FitnessFrenzy]

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Cool pic

[arce1988]

[arce1988]

[Kwon_2]

[DroppingPlates]

It must be cold in the Firehouse..

[arce1988]

Cost of a typical handgun = $500
Cost of typical ammo for a year = $1,000
Cost of CCW and courses = $300
Cost of accessories = $100

Value of being able to defend yourself and your family = priceless

[anabolichalo]

Cost of a typical handgun = $500
Cost of typical ammo for a year = $1,000
Cost of CCW and courses = $300
Cost of accessories = $100

Value of being able to defend yourself and your family = priceless

who is annually firing $1,000 worth of ammo to defend his family?

 

[FitnessFrenzy]

[DroppingPlates]

Cost of a typical handgun = $500
Cost of typical ammo for a year = $1,000
Cost of CCW and courses = $300
Cost of accessories = $100

Value of being able to defend yourself and your family = priceless

Value of losing a loved one = priceless
Banning guns = less deaths, statistics don't lie in this case..

[NarcissisticDeity]

Value of losing a loved one = priceless
Banning guns = less deaths, statistics don't lie in this case..

Yes just like banning drugs means less drug users 

[DroppingPlates]

Yes just like banning drugs means less drug users  

Apples, oranges..
No, being from the Netherlands, I'm not that naive.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Apples, oranges..
No, being from the Netherlands, I'm not that naive.

You're not naive you're flat out wrong.

WOULD BANNING FIREARMSREDUCE
MURDER AND SUICIDE?

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf

Harvard study , let me summarize it's a resounding NO to the question proposed.

[Migs]

who is this!

[NarcissisticDeity]

who is this!

You're next wife

[DroppingPlates]

You're not naive you're flat out wrong.

WOULD BANNING FIREARMSREDUCE
MURDER AND SUICIDE?

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf

Harvard study , let me summarize it's a resounding NO to the question proposed.

They end their paper with:

"To bear that burden would at the very least
require showing that a large number of nations with more
guns have more death and that nations that have imposed
stringent gun controls have achieved substantial reductions
in criminal violence (or suicide). But those correlations are
not observed when a large number of nations are compared
across the world."

So in other words, they don't draw an end conclusion, but they believe that more research is required.
I believe they're right in what they say about suicides, but I was referring to killings/murders.

"People do not commit suicide because they
have guns available. They kill themselves for reasons they
deem sufficient, and in the absence of firearms they just kill
themselves in some other way."

But listen, we can continue this classic debate for over 100 pages, but why not take a good look at that map. Why have Canada and Europe lower rates?

[NarcissisticDeity]

They end their paper with:

"To bear that burden would at the very least
require showing that a large number of nations with more
guns have more death and that nations that have imposed
stringent gun controls have achieved substantial reductions
in criminal violence (or suicide). But those correlations are
not observed when a large number of nations are compared
across the world."

So in other words, they don't draw an end conclusion, but they believe that more research is required.
I believe they're right in what they say about suicides, but I was referring to killings/murders.

"People do not commit suicide because they
have guns available. They kill themselves for reasons they
deem sufficient, and in the absence of firearms they just kill
themselves in some other way."

But listen, we can continue this classic debate for over 100 pages, but why not take a good look at that map. Why have Canada and Europe lower rates?

There is NO debate , just denial of facts.

[avxo]

But listen, we can continue this classic debate for over 100 pages, but why not take a good look at that map. Why have Canada and Europe lower rates?

Repeat after me: Correlation does not imply causation.

[Radical Plato]

Racism In White Americans Linked To Gun Ownership And Gun Control Opposition

http://www.medicaldaily.com/racism-white-americans-linked-gun-ownership-and-gun-control-opposition-261618

[DroppingPlates]

There is NO debate , just denial of facts.

I guess you're color blind regarding that map, since you can't/won't answer my simple question.
A good debate is only possible with reasonable people, you're clearly a biased fundamentalist.

[Shockwave]

Racism In White Americans Linked To Gun Ownership And Gun Control Opposition

http://www.medicaldaily.com/racism-white-americans-linked-gun-ownership-and-gun-control-opposition-261618

Jesus christ.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I guess you're color blind regarding that map, since you can't/won't answer my simple question.
A good debate is only possible with reasonable people, you're clearly a biased fundamentalist.

One this thread isn't the place for this conversation. Two there is no debate , I corrected your assertion with facts. Three I'm swayed by facts not emotions , fundamentalists are the opposite.


 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Racism In White Americans Linked To Gun Ownership And Gun Control Opposition

http://www.medicaldaily.com/racism-white-americans-linked-gun-ownership-and-gun-control-opposition-261618

Not even worthy of a dignified response. And what are you doing back? I thought you were done with this place? 

[DroppingPlates]

One this thread isn't the place for this conversation. Two there is no debate , I corrected your assertion with facts. Three I'm swayed by facts not emotions , fundamentalists are the opposite.

Well, you've started this. I've only replied on Steve's posting, that's all.
'Facts' are interpretations, but you seem to narrow minded to understand that.
Nevertheless, I respect people with other opinions.

[FitnessFrenzy]