Russia has penetrated Ukraine

[OAK]

That's because Cuba never joined the USSR.

Had it happened, the USA would have attacked.

The situations are completely analogous.

Did the US spend TRILLIONS of dollars fighting Cuba?

🙄

[Matt]

Did the US spend TRILLIONS of dollars fighting Cuba?

🙄

Trillions of Rubles, not USA dollars.

And yes they would have, had Cuba acquired Russian missiles.

[OAK]

Trillions of Rubles, not USA dollars.

And yes they would have, had Cuba acquired Russian missiles.

D-O-L-L-A-R-S

Can’t you read?

🙄🙄

[LurkerNoMore]

Putin:

- drove Sweden, Finland and Ukraine into Nato's arms
- lost 200,000 soldiers in Ukraine
- destroyed half of his country's military materiel
- is slowly subsuming his country's interests to those of China

Putin = master strategist

This sums it up.

[LurkerNoMore]

LOL, don't make me laugh.

Sovereign democracies are subject to the will of their people, not some 5'4 midget who's had more plastic surgery than Dolly fucking Parton.

This sums it up even better.

[Matt]

D-O-L-L-A-R-S

Can’t you read?

🙄🙄

Russia doesn't have a trillions of dollars lying around for a war, so no.

Russia's defense budget is $48 billion per year.

It may have gone up to twice that though.

It's very unlikely to have hit anything close to one trillion yet.

$100 billion or more, yes.

NATO's defense budget is $1 trillion per year, so NATO is over the $1 trillion figure already.

[Automation]

I didn’t comment on Putin's intelligence.

He isn't fighting Ukraine though - he's fighting Ukraine with all of NATO's weapons.

It's not the same thing.

All of NATOs weapons? Hardly mate. They don’t have any of the best toys and Russia is still getting a pasting.

[Matt]

All of NATOs weapons? Hardly mate. They don’t have any of the best toys and Russia is still getting a pasting.

Maybe "all" is hyperbole, but Ukraine has a massive amount of aid, and Putin continues to push eastward - the map of Ukraine keeps getting redder:



If Putin's goal is just to take Eastern Ukraine, I can't fathom that being stopped without triggering nuclear war.

He's only seeking to get Eastern Ukraine, right? Then once he takes it...that's it?

As someone said much earlier in this thread, Russia can fight a war of attrition...Ukraine can't.

If Putin's only goal is to occupy half of Ukraine then stop, I don't see any way that doesn't happen, unless NATO chooses to declare an actual war [not this proxy war, just sending equipment and money to Ukraine].

I mean, really - what do you see as the best case scenario here, Automation?

If it was up to me, NATO would never have been allowed to join NATO, for the same reasons Cuba wasn't allowed to join the USSR [too close for comfort].

Then none of this would have happened.

Under your model, Ukraine joins NATO, Putin objects [obviously - for the same reason why USA objected to the Cuba situation], Russia declares war, potentially hundreds of thousands - even MILLIONS - of people die...and all for what?

So Ukraine is a part of NATO?

Is that THAT important to you?

[Rusty Trombone]

Sovereign democracies are subject to the will of their people, not some 5'4 midget who's had more plastic surgery than Dolly fucking Parton

LMAO, clueless fucking retard.

[Raymondo]

LMAO, clueless fucking retard.

If that's really your face, I feel sorry for you poor bastard, I really do.

[Matt]

If that's really your face, I feel sorry for you poor bastard, I really do.

Is Putin's goal to just take Eastern Ukraine?

If succeeds and just stops...what happens next?

Will NATO chase him out?

[Griffith]

2022 vs 2023

[Skeletor]

Russian Army Numbers Growing Inside Ukraine, Says Top NATO Commander

The Russian army operating in Ukraine today is larger than when the Kremlin launched its invasion in February 2022, but remains vulnerable to a Kyiv counteroffensive expected in the coming weeks, NATO’s top commander told the House and Senate armed services committees this week.

“This war is far from over,” Army Gen. Christopher Cavoli told the House panel on Wednesday. On Thursday, he added to the Senate, “I think [the Russians] can fight another year.”

But in testimony to both panels, he said the United States and allies already have provided the Ukrainians 98 percent of the artillery, tanks and armored vehicles Kyiv said it needs to launch the counteroffensive.

The Ukrainians “have to be better than the Russian force they will face” when and where they will strike. He said Russia has strategic depth in manpower despite thousands of killed and wounded. Cavoli said the Kremlin is moving to address vulnerabilities that have been exposed in 14 months of combat. Russia has only lost one warship and about 80 fighters and tactical bombers in an air fleet numbering about 1,000 so far in the war, he added.

At the House hearing, Cavoli said Russian submarine activity has picked up in the North Atlantic since the beginning of the war and none of the Kremlin’s strategic nuclear forces have been affected by operations in Ukraine.

https://news.usni.org/2023/04/27/russian-army-ranks-growing-inside-ukraine-says-top-nato-commander

[Humble Narcissist]

Can Ukraine go another year?

[Kwon]

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/16/politics/patriot-missile-damage-ukraine/index.html

US officials say damage to Patriot missile defense system was minimal following Russian attack near Kyiv

[Gym Rat]

Even war is a hysterical joke, in modern day (social-media / fake-news).
Like watching a retard-reality show...

[Kwon]

Russian Army Numbers Growing Inside Ukraine, Says Top NATO Commander

The Russian army operating in Ukraine today is larger than when the Kremlin launched its invasion in February 2022, but remains vulnerable to a Kyiv counteroffensive expected in the coming weeks, NATO’s top commander told the House and Senate armed services committees this week.

“This war is far from over,” Army Gen. Christopher Cavoli told the House panel on Wednesday. On Thursday, he added to the Senate, “I think [the Russians] can fight another year.”

But in testimony to both panels, he said the United States and allies already have provided the Ukrainians 98 percent of the artillery, tanks and armored vehicles Kyiv said it needs to launch the counteroffensive.

The Ukrainians “have to be better than the Russian force they will face” when and where they will strike. He said Russia has strategic depth in manpower despite thousands of killed and wounded. Cavoli said the Kremlin is moving to address vulnerabilities that have been exposed in 14 months of combat. Russia has only lost one warship and about 80 fighters and tactical bombers in an air fleet numbering about 1,000 so far in the war, he added.

At the House hearing, Cavoli said Russian submarine activity has picked up in the North Atlantic since the beginning of the war and none of the Kremlin’s strategic nuclear forces have been affected by operations in Ukraine.

https://news.usni.org/2023/04/27/russian-army-ranks-growing-inside-ukraine-says-top-nato-commander

Nice

[Kwon]

Even war is a hysterical joke, in modern day (social-media / fake-news).
Like watching a retard-reality show...

Can't trust any side regarding news these days

Everything is Proper Ganosh (Pooperganda)

[Raymondo]

What about Cuba's right to have Russian missiles ??
Where's your defending their right as an independent country.??

Fuck I bet your own Mirror hates you.

Sheep 🐑  like Idiotic Clown 🤡

False equivalence fallacy.

Whataboutery (appeal to hypocrisy fallacy).

[Automation]

False equivalence fallacy.

Whataboutery (appeal to hypocrisy fallacy).

Dude is dumber than a bunch of rocks.

[LurkerNoMore]

Dude is dumber than a bunch of rocks.

Not to mention an easily exposed habitual liar as well.

[OAK]

LOL

illuminati SURE is quiet today!

That's not like him.

 

[Fortress]

This war still happening?

What’s the status of Penn’s assault on the Russian invaders?

[Teutonic Knight]

This war still happening?

What’s the status of Penn’s assault on the Russian invaders?

PMC Wagner is meat grading tottaly surrounded Ukrainians inside the 'Domino' block of Artemovsk 

Domino is gonna look like a Hiroshima 1945 

Only the dumb Ukers & western fools believed that Wagner was running out of ammo on the 9th of May 



Ukraine is "still winning"   

[Teutonic Knight]

LOL

illuminati SURE is quiet today!



 

But Russian artillery & air force is not 

Air raid sirens a blasting all over Ukraine 

Have a very  day !.