Russia has penetrated Ukraine

[OAK]

But Nato did not enter Ukraine?

Exactly!

Also, if NATO did "enter" Ukraine (they didn't) that doesn't give Russia the right to attack them......they're an independent country.

[Matt]

But Nato did not enter Ukraine?

Didn't they sign an intention to do so so?

[BigRo]

Didn't they sign an intention to do so so?

Nato has been blocking Ukraine's request to join for years.

[LurkerNoMore]

BBC reporting Ukraine has taken three villages. In a separate article, they say Russian army is taking over Wagner Group and giving them until the end of the month to sign a commitment to the army.

Hahaha Russia run out of prisoners and stray dogs to recruit? 

[Matt]

Exactly!

Also, if NATO did "enter" Ukraine (they didn't) that doesn't give Russia the right to attack them......they're an independent country.

Is Cuba an independent country?

[OAK]

Is Cuba an independent country?

Yes.

[Matt]

Over 400 fires in Canada and Turdeau visits Ukraine to give them more money?

Trudeau admitted to the fact that he doesn't understand simple math. So it stands to reason that he doesn't understand how to allocate finite financial resources efficiently. And when do governments ever spend money efficiently anyway?

This video is of Trudeau admitting that he doesn't understand the difference between small and big numbers - so he could bankrupt Canada's economy, and not even understand what he did:

https://twitter.com/6ixbuzztv/status/1516809441890418689

[Kwon]

Turdeau is the Epitome of Bunk Kigs

[Teutonic Knight]

Russian Spetsnas captured NATO UAV (Black Hornet) in Ukraine, 1 of those mini size drones costs $ 230K , complete dron set + $ 1 million !. 

[Matt]

Yes.

So the Cuban Missile Crisis was understandable.

I can understand why Putin wouldn't want NATO in Ukraine.

It's too close for comfort.

[Teutonic Knight]

Yes.

Is that why is China building millitary base in Cuba 

[Matt]

Nato has been blocking Ukraine's request to join for years.

So specifically, what reasons did Putin give for starting this war?

[Matt]

Is that why is China building millitary base in Cuba 

They are?

[obsidian]

Did the people in Eastern Ukraine want to be part of Russia? If yes, that should have been voted on.

But NATO entering Ukraine was the reason for all this, and Putin made it clear that war would happen if that did.

Maybe the elites sustaining this war want it to go nuclear.

They did and voted to join Russia. Which is why they are now part of Russia. The same goes for Crimea.

[Teutonic Knight]

But Nato did not enter Ukraine?

Hey why Nato don't libarate Ireland from the Brits 

[Teutonic Knight]

They are?

YES 

[Matt]

They did and voted to join Russia. Which is why they are now part of Russia. The same goes for Crimea.

So what was the basis of this war from Putin's perspective?

[obsidian]

Exactly!

Also, if NATO did "enter" Ukraine (they didn't) that doesn't give Russia the right to attack them......they're an independent country.

The USA attacked and invaded Iraq, an independent country. Where was your outrage when that happened?

And NATO was involved in the Afghanistan invasion because they claimed they were terrorists. Where was your outrage then?

Russia had every right to attack and demilitarize Ukraine because Ukraine was not an independent country. It lost that status in 2014 when it allowed a US- led coup to replace the legitimate government. It is a matter of national security for Russia.

[obsidian]

So what was the basis of this war from Putin's perspective?

They voted to join Russia after the invasion. Crimea prior to that after the 2014 US-led coup.

Russia invaded Ukraine because the US was running Ukraine and planning to build up its military. It was admitted by Merkel that the Minsk agreement was a stalling tactic to buy time so they could build up Ukraine's military.

Ukraine is Russia's Cuban Missile Crisis.

Russia and China should cozy up to Mexico and offer to build military bases right on the US border. Perhaps also deploy nukes in Mexico. The Mexican constitution will have to change as well.

Until the US returns to the rule of law and stops being anti-white I am not on their side. I have zero respect for most politicians in the US and they can all fuck off and die.

Russia might have to plan special ops missions to take out vermin like Soros, the Rothschilds, and all these Deep State operatives lurking in the shadows. They need to take out their entire bloodlines because they are a threat to civilization. I had hoped this would occur under Trump with the US military doing the right thing but it appears Trump was outsmarted by the Deep State Mafia and he did not understand what he was up against.

[OAK]

So the Cuban Missile Crisis was understandable.

I can understand why Putin wouldn't want NATO in Ukraine.

It's too close for comfort.

The US never attacked Cuba even though they had nuclear missiles pointed DIRECTLY at the them.

So your example backs my point.

Thanks for posting.

 

[OAK]

The USA attacked and invaded Iraq, an independent country. Where was your outrage when that happened?

And NATO was involved in the Afghanistan invasion because they claimed they were terrorists. Where was your outrage then?

Russia had every right to attack and demilitarize Ukraine because Ukraine was not an independent country. It lost that status in 2014 when it allowed a US- led coup to replace the legitimate government. It is a matter of national security for Russia.

Putin invaded Ukraine to "de-Nazify" them.

The rest of your argument is classic "Red Herring"....total non sense.

I hope this helps.

 

[OAK]

So what was the basis of this war from Putin's perspective?

Putin invaded Ukraine to "de-Nazify" them.

Why do you LOVE Putin so much?

I thought you were a proud Nazi sympathizer?

 

[Kwon]

They voted to join Russia after the invasion. Crimea prior to that after the 2014 US-led coup.

Russia invaded Ukraine because the US was running Ukraine and planning to build up its military. It was admitted by Merkel that the Minsk agreement was a stalling tactic to buy time so they could build up Ukraine's military.

Ukraine is Russia's Cuban Missile Crisis.

Russia and China should cozy up to Mexico and offer to build military bases right on the US border. Perhaps also deploy nukes in Mexico. The Mexican constitution will have to change as well.

Until the US returns to the rule of law and stops being anti-white I am not on their side. I have zero respect for most politicians in the US and they can all fuck off and die.

Russia might have to plan special ops missions to take out vermin like Soros, the Rothschilds, and all these Deep State operatives lurking in the shadows. They need to take out their entire bloodlines because they are a threat to civilization. I had hoped this would occur under Trump with the US military doing the right thing but it appears Trump was outsmarted by the Deep State Mafia and he did not understand what he was up against.

I'd help them with Deep State

[obsidian]

The US never attacked Cuba even though they had nuclear missiles pointed DIRECTLY at the them.

So your example backs my point.

Thanks for posting.

 

Russia agreed to withdraw from Cuba. Had they not WW3 might very well have resulted.

The US has not agreed to stop intervening in Ukraine. They have sent billions in military aid which just proves that Russia was right with their military operations. Treasonous US politicians like Lady Lindsey Graham actually called for the assassination of Russia's leader.

[obsidian]

Putin invaded Ukraine to "de-Nazify" them.

The rest of your argument is classic "Red Herring"....total non sense.

I hope this helps.

 

Hi moron, it's well known that the USA was responsible for the 2014 coup in Ukraine. So the USA installed an illegitimate puppet regime and Ukraine therefore forfeited its independent nation status. They became a proxy of the USA as we can see now in full display with this US proxy war on Russia.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/washington-was-behind-ukraine-coup-obama-admits-that-us-brokered-a-deal-in-support-of-regime-change/5429142

Washington Was Behind Ukraine Coup: Obama admits that US “Brokered a Deal” in Support of “Regime Change”
US Sticks to Tried and True Policy of Supporting Coups

US President Barack Obama revealed the United States’ involvement in the Ukrainian crisis from its outset and admitted that the United States “had brokered a deal to transition power in Ukraine.”

US President Barack Obama’s recent interview with CNN’s Fareed Zakiria reveals the United States’ involvement in the Ukrainian crisis from its outset and that the country worked directly with Ukrainian right-wing fascist groups, experts told Sputnik.

On Sunday, in his interview with CNN, Obama admitted that the United States “had brokered a deal to transition power in Ukraine.”

“Obama’s statement is reiterating something that the world public opinion already knew — the US was involved in the coup of [ex-Ukrainian President] Viktor Yanukovych from the start. History shows us that the US has overthrown numerous governments in Latin America, Asia and Africa and replaced them with leaders that ruled with a fascist ideology that proved useful for Washington’s geopolitical interests,” independent researcher and writer Timothy Alexander Guzman told Sputnik.

Yanukovych’s decision to not sign an association agreement with the European Union in late 2013 triggered a mass wave of protests across Ukraine, culminating in the February 2014 coup. Following the transition of power, Kiev forces launched military operation against those who refused to recognize the legitimacy of the new government.

Merkel and Obama discussed arming Ukraine back in 2015.

https://sputnikglobe.com/20150202/1017670687.html

Obama & Merkel to Discuss Arming Ukraine in Washington Next Week
17:33 GMT 02.02.2015 (Updated: 13:38 GMT 06.08.2022)

For months, the United States has been supplying non-lethal aid to Ukrainian forces. But a number of officials have urged for that support to include lethal assistance, and with German Chancellor Merkel visiting Washington next week, those talks will be on the table.
WASHINGTON, February 2nd (Sputnik) — After heavy losses suffered by the Ukrainian army at the hands of anti-Kiev rebels in the country's east, the Obama administration considers supplying government forces with sophisticated armament, hoping to change momentum in the bloody civil war.

A White House administration official, speaking on condition of anonymity to the New York Times, has indicated that President Obama may be willing to approve the shipment of lethal aid to the Ukrainian government. Caches of weapons would include anti-armor missiles, artillery radars, armored vehicles and other sophisticated military hardware.

So far, official US support has been limited to tactical supplies like gas masks, night-vision goggles, body armor, and first aid. But now Washington fears that the Ukrainian army may disintegrate without support from abroad. However, before making any new policy decisions, President Obama wants to discuss the issue with European leaders, first being German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who arrives in Washington next week.

Merkel has been coordinating European efforts to reach a cease-fire in Ukraine, often taking a hardline position towards Russia for its alleged involvement in the crisis. But on Monday this week, Merkel reiterated her previous position that Germany will not supply Ukraine with weapons, preferring to focus on diplomacy to end the conflict.