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OAK

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #5125 on: June 11, 2023, 07:09:46 PM »
Russia agreed to withdraw from Cuba. Had they not WW3 might very well have resulted.

The US has not agreed to stop intervening in Ukraine. They have sent billions in military aid which just proves that Russia was right with their military operations. Treasonous US politicians like Lady Lindsey Graham actually called for the assassination of Russia's leader.

The US NEVER attacked Cuba.

Russia DID attack Ukraine.

You don’t understand the difference?

🙄

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #5126 on: June 11, 2023, 07:49:48 PM »
The US NEVER attacked Cuba.

Russia DID attack Ukraine.

You don’t understand the difference?

🙄

The USA would have attacked Cuba had things only marginally escalated from where they were left off though.

But sure, OAK - you'd be correct to say that the comparison isn't perfectly analogous though.

However, I feel they are pretty close.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #5127 on: June 11, 2023, 08:16:58 PM »
The US NEVER attacked Cuba.

Russia DID attack Ukraine.

You don’t understand the difference?

🙄


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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #5128 on: June 11, 2023, 08:19:04 PM »
The US NEVER attacked Cuba.

Russia DID attack Ukraine.

You don’t understand the difference?

🙄

Wtf OAK,read some history

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion



OAK

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #5129 on: June 11, 2023, 08:50:53 PM »
The USA would have attacked Cuba had things only marginally escalated from where they were left off though.

Bur sure, OAK - you'd be correct to say that the comparison isn't perfectly analogous though.

However, I feel they are pretty close.

In both cases Russia was pure EVIL.

Communists will believe otherwise.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #5130 on: June 11, 2023, 09:44:40 PM »
So specifically, what reasons did Putin give for starting this war?

Helping the people in the Donbass from genocide by bringing genocide on tren.
Demilitarization of Ukraine, preventing the country from ever being able to defend itself against invasion.
Denazification...Bucha style.
Ukraine is really Russia, and needs to be re-educated and reabsorbed in to the motherland,  its distinct culture erased and replaced with proper Russian history books.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #5131 on: June 11, 2023, 10:09:01 PM »
Russian Spetsnas captured NATO UAV (Black Hornet) in Ukraine, 1 of those mini size drones costs $ 230K , complete dron set + $ 1 million !.  ;D

What next: Russian soldier captures bullet using head!

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #5132 on: June 11, 2023, 10:15:08 PM »
Trump was outsmarted by the Deep State Mafia and he did not understand what he was up against.

In his defence, he could be outsmarted by a potato and he doesn’t understand much beyond lying and whining.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #5133 on: June 12, 2023, 01:24:23 AM »
In his defence, he could be outsmarted by a potato and he doesn’t understand much beyond lying and whining.

Sort of what we all do here daily, to argue "our side" though no one is "right"...

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #5134 on: June 12, 2023, 04:22:35 AM »

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #5135 on: June 12, 2023, 06:48:15 AM »
So what was the basis of this war from Putin's perspective?

There are the reasons Putin gave and the reasons that are rational from a geopolitical point of view.

I recommend listening to Peter Zeihan's appearance on Joe Rogan's podcast but on a nutshell:

Securing a crucial flank against Nato, turning Ukraine into a buffer zone like it has been for ages (obviously)

An aged, diseased population that has been seriously shrinking for decades meaning they must absorb other populations to solve their demographic problems (hence the massive abductions of Ukrainian children). Without this, Russia is finished as a country by 2070 at the latest without a single shot fired due to total demographic collapse. 2022 (according to Zeihan, always) is the last year they had enough males in their 20s to even attempt an invasion.

Denying Ukraine the massive undeveloped energy resources of the Black Sea ensuring they will never compromise Russian's status as an energy superpower.

Russian farmland being among the least fertile, worst connected space in the world (roads are in terrible shape, they mostly have rail), so grabbing Ukraine's farmland is a massive boost.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #5136 on: June 12, 2023, 08:11:39 AM »
In both cases Russia was pure EVIL.

Communists will believe otherwise.

 :(

The victors get to dictate who or what is evil. Only one winner here...

makes you proud to be american

Rather them than you!


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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #5137 on: June 12, 2023, 02:03:40 PM »
makes you proud to be american
Why? Or are you being sarcastic?

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #5138 on: June 12, 2023, 02:21:38 PM »
In both cases Russia was pure EVIL.

Communists will believe otherwise.

 :(

You're a Commie.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #5139 on: June 12, 2023, 02:24:12 PM »
Q

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #5140 on: June 12, 2023, 03:29:18 PM »



Just another American/NATO millitary 'Top Secret' is no more  :D

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #5141 on: June 12, 2023, 03:32:43 PM »
In his defence, he could be outsmarted by a potato and he doesn’t understand much beyond lying and whining.

He rules the biggest country in the World & you ................... ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #5142 on: June 12, 2023, 03:42:51 PM »


Ukrainian/NATO Spring offensive VS Russian Coalition

                                          0 : 7

                                     ;D  ;D  ;D



Oh, nooo Russians snatched 2 German Leopards @ Zaprozhye & they a taken for techno test ............ ;D ;D ;D

Looks like Nato #.1 tenk is fucked in Ukrainian mud ................. :D :D :D

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #5143 on: June 12, 2023, 03:45:19 PM »
Makes you proud to be American


When American VS American war will start ?.


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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #5144 on: June 12, 2023, 11:35:40 PM »
16 US Bradley infantry fighting vehicles have been destroyed, damaged, or abandoned in Ukraine in recent days, war monitor says, highlighting the cost of Ukraine’s counteroffensive

Sixteen US-provided Bradley infantry fighting vehicles have been lost or damaged in Ukraine in recent days, highlighting the military toll of the current counteroffensive, according to an open-source analysis.

The Dutch website Oryx, which tracks visual evidence of losses on both sides, documented five destroyed Bradleys and 11 that have been damaged and abandoned. The losses would amount to a sizable chunk of the 109 Bradleys that the US has committed to Ukraine, the first of which were confirmed as in use on the battlefield in April.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-16-us-bradley-ifvs-lost-damaged-high-price-counteroffensive-2023-6

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #5145 on: June 13, 2023, 12:49:34 AM »

When American VS American war will start ?.
Might happen if Trump goes to prison.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #5146 on: June 13, 2023, 06:11:02 AM »

Teutonic Knight

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #5147 on: June 13, 2023, 11:49:01 AM »
16 US Bradley infantry fighting vehicles have been destroyed, damaged, or abandoned in Ukraine in recent days, war monitor says, highlighting the cost of Ukraine’s counteroffensive

Sixteen US-provided Bradley infantry fighting vehicles have been lost or damaged in Ukraine in recent days, highlighting the military toll of the current counteroffensive, according to an open-source analysis.

The Dutch website Oryx, which tracks visual evidence of losses on both sides, documented five destroyed Bradleys and 11 that have been damaged and abandoned. The losses would amount to a sizable chunk of the 109 Bradleys that the US has committed to Ukraine, the first of which were confirmed as in use on the battlefield in April.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-16-us-bradley-ifvs-lost-damaged-high-price-counteroffensive-2023-6

Russians have trophies : Bradley's, Leopards (this will costs Shults his job),British machinery,................... ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #5148 on: June 13, 2023, 12:28:36 PM »


Fuck yeah!   We will bomb anybody and their momma. 

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #5149 on: June 13, 2023, 10:52:55 PM »
Russians have trophies : Bradley's, Leopards (this will costs Shults his job),British machinery,................... ;D ;D ;D

Pha. Yeh, sure. Sholtz will lose his job over this!

You live in a very interesting reality TK. Russia continues to lose ground, yet, in your world: winning. Russian economy is in the ditch, but No! Russia economy is so strong! Russia targets civilian infrastructure, Great Strategy!

Deluded halfwit, just like your man: Pooty.