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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #2200 on: July 12, 2022, 10:48:58 AM »

Another $1.7 billion to Ukraine?

If you can't see that the Biden admin is knee deep in corruption and trying to prevent the truth coming out about what is going on in the Ukraine, then you are absolutely blind at this point and there is ZERO helping you...



https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1546864166849347584?s=20&t=HGHE2qJfkrvnQAcF-OwnWQ

The US is being looted, just like Russia was(still is) and the native Ukrainians are, as well as being sacrificed as cannon fodder. Imagine the Americans that died or became ill slaving for the $60 Billion that "we" hand over to Ukraine at the expense of our own security. Not to mention, those killed, maimed and raped by people that the US allowed to invade illegally.

Excerpts from a kosher political perspective aggregator:

"And beyond that, Ukraine is to a certain extent a very Jewish-identified place. The Jewish media in the US and elsewhere has been showering Zelensky with praise, referring to him as a genuine “Jewish hero,” a modern Maccabee resisting oppression, a David versus Goliath. T-shirts bearing his image are being sold that read “Resisting tyrants since Pharaoh” while the largely Orthodox Jewish community in New York City has already been raising millions of dollars for Ukrainian aid.

The Jewish Telegraphic Agency reports that a “2020 demographic survey estimated that besides a ‘core’ population of 43,000 Jews, around 200,000 Ukrainians are technically eligible for Israeli citizenship, meaning that they have identifiable Jewish ancestry. The European Jewish Congress says that number could be as high as 400,000.” If that is true, it is one of the largest Jewish communities in the world and it includes at least 8,000 Israelis, many of whom have returned to Israel."

The article:   https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/how-jewish-is-the-war-against-russia/


In the midst of a war(looting/blood ritual) the government still has plenty of time for.....



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The politicians have been "convinced"(threatened or bribed, for all intents and purposes) to give it bi-partisan support and you're whatever magical words they label you if you disagree.

Kevin Cramer took no convincing, He's a convincer.

GOP Sen. Kevin Cramer says there's no limit to the amount of American money we must spend on Ukraine.


Kevin Cramer is generous with your money. Problem with that, bigot?





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Jeffrey Sachs and Philip Giraldi: the Ukraine War Is Yet Another Neocon War


https://www.unz.com/article/jeffrey-sachs-and-philip-giraldi-the-ukraine-war-is-yet-another-neocon-war/

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #2201 on: July 12, 2022, 09:39:08 PM »
I wish Russia would crush them like a bug and get this over with. It would be better for everyone involved. Putin just announced a path to citizenship for Ukrainians.

Russia is the one getting crushed right now, militarily and economically. It would be catastrophic for the world if they won. Autocratic imperialism tends to result in mass conflict. Better for everyone that they get their drunken, raping asses beaten by the UA now, than the alternative.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #2202 on: July 12, 2022, 10:12:10 PM »
Haha go fuck off with the imperialism shit.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #2203 on: July 12, 2022, 11:04:51 PM »
Haha go fuck off with the imperialism shit.

I couldn't agree more!

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #2204 on: July 13, 2022, 02:50:14 AM »
Russia is the one getting crushed right now, militarily and economically. It would be catastrophic for the world if they won. Autocratic imperialism tends to result in mass conflict. Better for everyone that they get their drunken, raping asses beaten by the UA now, than the alternative.


Russia's energy revenue higher now than just before Ukraine war, U.S. official says | Reuters

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/russia-energy-revenue-may-be-higher-now-than-before-ukraine-war-us-official-says-2022-06-09/

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #2205 on: July 13, 2022, 04:21:36 AM »
Russia is the one getting crushed right now, militarily and economically. It would be catastrophic for the world if they won. Autocratic imperialism tends to result in mass conflict. Better for everyone that they get their drunken, raping asses beaten by the UA now, than the alternative.
We will find out on the 15th when Russia is rumored to declare war on Ukraine officially. It looks like Belarus is joining Russia and Ukraine is setting up mines near the border. The gloves are coming off.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #2206 on: July 13, 2022, 06:30:34 AM »

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #2207 on: July 13, 2022, 11:48:43 AM »
We will find out on the 15th when Russia is rumored to declare war on Ukraine officially. It looks like Belarus is joining Russia and Ukraine is setting up mines near the border. The gloves are coming off.

More meat for the grinder. Makes no odds if they declare war, it already is one! Bodies won’t help an inept army that has nothing but old arty and shite logistics.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #2208 on: July 13, 2022, 12:27:09 PM »
More meat for the grinder. Makes no odds if they declare war, it already is one! Bodies won’t help an inept army that has nothing but old arty and shite logistics.

Can you Please Tell Me how well America Did with all of it's advanced warfare
Equipment in Afghanistan ? Vietnam ? Korea ?
In fact after 1945 Most Notable war experts state America has lost 5 major
wars!! Yet Here You are Trying to Bash Russia with a Broken Rubber bat.

America would do well Keeping its $s & Nose out of other countries wars
That Don't Concern Them.
I'd of Thought They'd of Learnt that By Now.

How many Billions Of $s of 1st grade equipment was lost/ Left to The Taliban
in Afghanistan By Pedo Joe ?? Jeez They Must now be one of The Best Equipped
Military Forces in The World Thanks To Pedo Joe & American Equipment.

America Isn't going to Fight any War with Russia or China Fact & You Know IT.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #2209 on: July 13, 2022, 01:30:42 PM »
Seems like the sanctions against Russia didn't have the expected outcome. Turdeau, the little cuck, acquiesced to Russia and returned the Russian turbines. Zelensky is not happy.


How Justin Trudeau caved to Putin

When Russia invaded Ukraine, the West was certain that its sanctions were worth the pain. But there always was a question as to whether this resolve would last once the domestic difficulties actually started. This week, western countries moved closer to admitting it might be too much to bear.

At the time of the invasion in February, a massive Russian turbine was being repaired in Montreal. It was one of many turbines used to send gas through the Nord Stream 1 pipeline from Russia to Germany. When the Russians moved into Ukraine, it was kept in Canada as punishment. Over the next few weeks and months Russia replied, cutting off gas supplies to the continent. Gazprom – the Russian state-owned energy giant – last month said it would only ramp up gas supplies to Europe if it got its turbine back. Germany asked the Canadians to send it to Moscow, and Trudeau has now agreed. In Kyiv, this is seen as a sign that blackmail is working.

In Kyiv, they’re less pleased. Zelensky last night said that bowing to blackmail means more blackmail. Ukraine’s foreign ministry said that Trudeau’s decision ‘violates international solidarity’ and that ‘it will have only one consequence: to strengthen Moscow’s sense of impunity’.

But the decision to send the turbine has been supported throughout the West. The US State Department has backed the move. The EU – Germany especially – is terrified that Putin will turn off the gas in the winter, so is building storage facilities in preparation. As energy bills continue to soar, western leaders are recognising that the damage from an economic war is two-sided.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-justin-trudeau-caved-to-putin-pipeline-turbine

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #2210 on: July 13, 2022, 01:32:47 PM »
Can you Please Tell Me how well America Did with all of it's advanced warfare
Equipment in Afghanistan ? Vietnam ? Korea ?
In fact after 1945 Most Notable war experts state America has lost 5 major
wars!! Yet Here You are Trying to Bash Russia with a Broken Rubber bat.

America would do well Keeping its $s & Nose out of other countries wars
That Don't Concern Them.

I'd of Thought They'd of Learnt that By Now.

How many Billions Of $s of 1st grade equipment was lost/ Left to The Taliban
in Afghanistan By Pedo Joe ?? Jeez They Must now be one of The Best Equipped
Military Forces in The World Thanks To Pedo Joe & American Equipment.

America Isn't going to Fight any War with Russia or China Fact & You Know IT.

They just can't.


Former senior U.S. official John Bolton admits to planning attempted foreign coups

John Bolton, a former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations and former White House national security adviser, said on Tuesday that he had helped plan attempted coups in foreign countries.

Bolton made the remarks to CNN after the day's congressional hearing into the Jan 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol. The panel's lawmakers on Tuesday accused former President Donald Trump of inciting the violence in a last-ditch bid to remain in power after losing the 2020 election. read more

Speaking to CNN anchor Jake Tapper, however, Bolton suggested Trump was not competent enough to pull off a "carefully planned coup d'etat," later adding: "As somebody who has helped plan coups d'etat - not here but you know (in) other places - it takes a lot of work. And that's not what he (Trump) did."

Tapper asked Bolton which attempts he was referring to.

"I'm not going to get into the specifics," Bolton said, before mentioning Venezuela. "It turned out not to be successful. Not that we had all that much to do with it but I saw what it took for an opposition to try and overturn an illegally elected president and they failed," he said.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/former-senior-us-official-john-bolton-admits-planning-attempted-foreign-coups-2022-07-12/

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #2211 on: July 13, 2022, 02:35:35 PM »
Seems like the sanctions against Russia didn't have the expected outcome. Turdeau, the little cuck, acquiesced to Russia and returned the Russian turbines. Zelensky is not happy.


How Justin Trudeau caved to Putin

When Russia invaded Ukraine, the West was certain that its sanctions were worth the pain. But there always was a question as to whether this resolve would last once the domestic difficulties actually started. This week, western countries moved closer to admitting it might be too much to bear.

At the time of the invasion in February, a massive Russian turbine was being repaired in Montreal. It was one of many turbines used to send gas through the Nord Stream 1 pipeline from Russia to Germany. When the Russians moved into Ukraine, it was kept in Canada as punishment. Over the next few weeks and months Russia replied, cutting off gas supplies to the continent. Gazprom – the Russian state-owned energy giant – last month said it would only ramp up gas supplies to Europe if it got its turbine back. Germany asked the Canadians to send it to Moscow, and Trudeau has now agreed. In Kyiv, this is seen as a sign that blackmail is working.

In Kyiv, they’re less pleased. Zelensky last night said that bowing to blackmail means more blackmail. Ukraine’s foreign ministry said that Trudeau’s decision ‘violates international solidarity’ and that ‘it will have only one consequence: to strengthen Moscow’s sense of impunity’.

But the decision to send the turbine has been supported throughout the West. The US State Department has backed the move. The EU – Germany especially – is terrified that Putin will turn off the gas in the winter, so is building storage facilities in preparation. As energy bills continue to soar, western leaders are recognising that the damage from an economic war is two-sided.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-justin-trudeau-caved-to-putin-pipeline-turbine

Dunno what you reading to come the conclusion that sanctions aren’t working. Have a read of this….

https://www.fitchsolutions.com/country-risk/russian-economy-suffer-deep-recession-2022-followed-milder-decline-2023-01-07-2022?amp


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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #2212 on: July 13, 2022, 02:48:26 PM »
Can you Please Tell Me how well America Did with all of it's advanced warfare
Equipment in Afghanistan ? Vietnam ? Korea ?
In fact after 1945 Most Notable war experts state America has lost 5 major
wars!! Yet Here You are Trying to Bash Russia with a Broken Rubber bat.

America would do well Keeping its $s & Nose out of other countries wars
That Don't Concern Them.
I'd of Thought They'd of Learnt that By Now.

How many Billions Of $s of 1st grade equipment was lost/ Left to The Taliban
in Afghanistan By Pedo Joe ?? Jeez They Must now be one of The Best Equipped
Military Forces in The World Thanks To Pedo Joe & American Equipment.

America Isn't going to Fight any War with Russia or China Fact & You Know IT.

Ok. So we are not already in a proxy war with Russia then? Of course we are, and if we don’t stop them now, what do you think will happen? They’ll suddenly stop being a bunch of land grabbing assholes?

Next up will be other ex soviet states, which will result in wider conflict and even greater negative consequences for the global economy. Appeasing Putin and his mob is complete folly.

Re Afghanistan: conventional weapons are effective when fighting a conventional war, which is what is happening in UA. Hence Russia’s tin pot army being destroyed by javelins and himars.

There are no winners in wars. However, it’s in everyone's interest (outside of his Moscow oligarch and autocratic murderers clubs) that he is defeated and his military is ground to dust.

Quite why people in America are cheering him on is beyond me. He hates you, if he thought he could get away with it, he’d be killing you and invading your lands as well.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #2213 on: July 13, 2022, 02:59:40 PM »
Stop with the drama Queen shit. Russia is a 1.5 trillion dollar economy. Their GDP per capita is a joke. They’re not taking over the world, just the Russian speaking parts of the Ukraine.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #2214 on: July 13, 2022, 03:04:10 PM »
According to this article the Afghan war cost $300 million a day for 20 years.

That's $2.1 billion a week for 20 years.

The Uke war is chump change.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hanktucker/2021/08/16/the-war-in-afghanistan-cost-america-300-million-per-day-for-20-years-with-big-bills-yet-to-come/?sh=6ab8a9847f8d

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #2215 on: July 13, 2022, 03:10:16 PM »
Russia is the one getting crushed right now, militarily and economically. It would be catastrophic for the world if they won. Autocratic imperialism tends to result in mass conflict. Better for everyone that they get their drunken, raping asses beaten by the UA now, than the alternative.

Exactly there are a lot of morons on this forum the Russian military is a joke without there nukes they are not shit I remember when people said this will be over with in a month. Non nukes nato would crush Russia in a conflict in conventional warfare

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #2216 on: July 13, 2022, 03:35:06 PM »
Stop with the drama Queen shit. Russia is a 1.5 trillion dollar economy. Their GDP per capita is a joke. They’re not taking over the world, just the Russian speaking parts of the Ukraine.

Well, at least we can agree that Russia is a joke. If believing that the only thing that will stop Russia’s imperialist ambitions is force means you get called a drama queen, by a random the internet, so be it. I’m sure my fragile disposition will recover.

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« Reply #2217 on: July 13, 2022, 05:08:23 PM »
Well, at least we can agree that Russia is a joke. If believing that the only thing that will stop Russia’s imperialist ambitions is force means you get called a drama queen, by a random the internet, so be it. I’m sure my fragile disposition will recover.
You have it all ass backwards. The reason Russia aims to demilitarize Ukraine is because USA and NATO were expanding to Russia's border. It was the USA that had imperialist ambitions. USA is not even 250 years old and it is already a complete mess. Totally corrupt politics. Russia existed long before USA and has a right to protect itself. And it will. Nothing USA or anyone else can do about it.

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« Reply #2218 on: July 13, 2022, 05:13:45 PM »
Ok. So we are not already in a proxy war with Russia then? Of course we are, and if we don’t stop them now, what do you think will happen? They’ll suddenly stop being a bunch of land grabbing assholes?

Next up will be other ex soviet states, which will result in wider conflict and even greater negative consequences for the global economy. Appeasing Putin and his mob is complete folly.

Re Afghanistan: conventional weapons are effective when fighting a conventional war, which is what is happening in UA. Hence Russia’s tin pot army being destroyed by javelins and himars.

There are no winners in wars. However, it’s in everyone's interest (outside of his Moscow oligarch and autocratic murderers clubs) that he is defeated and his military is ground to dust.

Quite why people in America are cheering him on is beyond me. He hates you, if he thought he could get away with it, he’d be killing you and invading your lands as well.
Sweden requires an intervention. They are replacing their own population with third world Muslims and Africans. I'd prefer Russia invading Sweden as opposed to the treasonous migration replacement currently going on in Sweden. So I fully support Russia invading Sweden. If Norway and Finland follow the same steps as Sweden then I support Russia invading them as well. Basically any nation in Europe should be up for grabs. I support Russia invading France to prevent France from turning into a third world Islamic State. Because that is the path France is on. Never really cared for Britain so I support Russia invading Britain as well. This is the nation where the police look the other way while young white girls are being sexually groomed and raped in their towns, by the tens of thousands. Britain requires an intervention and perhaps that should come from Russia.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #2219 on: July 13, 2022, 05:16:19 PM »
Is Ukraine part of the USSR yet ???
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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« Reply #2220 on: July 13, 2022, 05:17:47 PM »
Exactly there are a lot of morons on this forum the Russian military is a joke without there nukes they are not shit I remember when people said this will be over with in a month. Non nukes nato would crush Russia in a conflict in conventional warfare
USA flew 10 times as many sorties in the Iraq invasion compared to Russia. If Russia did not care about collateral damage then the Ukraine operation would be over long ago. You are not understanding the Russian strategy. The USA did not care about what they destroyed or who they killed in the Iraq invasion.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #2221 on: July 13, 2022, 05:18:27 PM »
Is Ukraine part of the USSR yet ???
Just get rid of USSR and make it all Russia. Ukraine, Sweden, Norway, Finland - all part of Russia.

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« Reply #2222 on: July 13, 2022, 08:29:47 PM »
Just get rid of USSR and make it all Russia. Ukraine, Sweden, Norway, Finland - all part of Russia.

 :D, Finland use to be Russian territory !.

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« Reply #2223 on: July 13, 2022, 08:43:38 PM »
- NATO & U.S. admit massive theft of weapons and billions of dollars sent to stop Putin ................

- Zelensky now wants (ONLY) 9 billions of Euros/Dollars per month ...............

- Ukraine is running out of fighting boys, so IT'S OFFICIAL recruitment of girls is ON ............

- If anyone needs a brand new French howitzer (CESAR), valued around $ 7 millions , @ the Polish/Ukrainian border you can get 1 for just
  $ 120K  ;D, American Javelin $ 5k, etc .....................(cash only  ;)) .


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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #2224 on: July 13, 2022, 08:44:10 PM »
Ok. So we are not already in a proxy war with Russia then? Of course we are, and if we don’t stop them now, what do you think will happen? They’ll suddenly stop being a bunch of land grabbing assholes?

Next up will be other ex soviet states, which will result in wider conflict and even greater negative consequences for the global economy. Appeasing Putin and his mob is complete folly.

Re Afghanistan: conventional weapons are effective when fighting a conventional war, which is what is happening in UA. Hence Russia’s tin pot army being destroyed by javelins and himars.

There are no winners in wars. However, it’s in everyone's interest (outside of his Moscow oligarch and autocratic murderers clubs) that he is defeated and his military is ground to dust.

Quite why people in America are cheering him on is beyond me. He hates you, if he thought he could get away with it, he’d be killing you and invading your lands as well.


America is Choosing to be in a Proxy war with Russia.
And America hasn't land grabbed / or put in puppet governments Then ?
Were America Arseholes for what they've done or only Russia is it?

Ahh excuses about what went wrong for America fighting Afghanistan  ::)
Oh they didn't fight fairly/ by the Rules-well no Shit Sherlock its a Fucking War.
I notice You didn't even touch on the other war's America lost !!!

What about the & countries that Obumer had Bombed ??  That was Ok was it.?

FFS you really are very Blinkered in your Views.
I have Zero Axe to grind against America - Only having an open & fair Perspective of what's happened & is Happening.

Many Countries Believe America also hates Them & would Bomb kill them all
if it could get away with it.

Try widening your Mind.