Ironage experiences with GH.

[Matt C]

Discuss.

[Karl Kox]

in his book he said it cost too much

[Mr. Intenseone]

Bob Paris supposedly went on a six week cycle for the 1983 Nationals from what I heard.

Any other examples?

True, he also used little more than therapeutic doses for his pre-contest cycles!

[brianX]

Judging from his complete lack of mass nowadays, I would say his cycles were more than "therapeutic".

[Max_Rep]

Gary Strydom used quite a bit. 

[Mr. Intenseone]

Judging from his complete lack of mass nowadays, I would say his cycles were more than "therapeutic".

In his day he was one of the bigger bodybuilders, but aside from that, he was smart. 1. He didn't want to risk his health by resorting to the mass quantities the judges wanted AND 2. He was smart enough to realize that excessive use would ruin his symmetry. Unlike now where the competitors don't give a crap!

[pumpster]

Grymko was the first I can remember, mid-late 70s. This was the natural version prior to synthetic GH.

[onlyme]

I thought GH way back then came from Rhesus Monkeys I thought

[timfogarty]

I thought GH way back then came from Rhesus Monkeys I thought

Human growth hormone was extracted from the cadavers of adolescent males who died of trauma.  if they died of a disease, then they were not suitable donors.  since there was a limited supple of donors, HGH was very rare and expensive.  rHGH, or synthetic HGH became available in 1985.

[onlyme]

Human growth hormone was extracted from the cadavers of adolescent males who died of trauma.  if they died of a disease, then they were not suitable donors.  since there was a limited supple of donors, HGH was very rare and expensive.  rHGH, or synthetic HGH became available in 1985.

But before that, GH not HGH was obtained from the Pituatary gland of a Rhesus Monkey right?

[timfogarty]

But before that, GH not HGH was obtained from the Pituatary gland of a Rhesus Monkey right?

I don't think ever for theraputic use in humans

[cqfd]

Gary Strydom used quite a bit. 

I was thinking about him and the gh guts.
That guy had tons of money with the wbf in the early 90s so he could afford anything that he wanted and still did not develop a gh ghuts and had terrific details and separation.
It makes me think that probably the so called gh guts has not much to do with gh but other things like insulin or igf1.

[jwb]

I was thinking about him and the gh guts.
That guy had tons of money with the wbf in the early 90s so he could afford anything that he wanted and still did not develop a gh ghuts and had terrific details and separation.
It makes me think that probably the so called gh guts has not much to do with gh but other things like insulin or igf1.

Strydom was an insulin user as well. He taught some people I know all about it back in 1990...

[badlad]

I'm ignorant about GH completely. Had mates who were using it and tried to get me to 'try' it out but since I don't know anything about I didn't have the need. I realise it strengthens connective tissue and bone etc and probably causes maybe height growth etc but how does it cause the 'gut' that is referred to? Is there an actual scientific basis to this abdominal transformation?
I would argue that it is the result of eating mega calories and other things can cause stomach distension but then i don't understnad the GH factor. Can someone enlighten me?

[badlad]

Just made a little investigation into several online med journals and articles and can't find anything that would indicate why excess GH would create the pregnant look. If anything it seems that GH causes fat loss and stimulates nutrient absorption etc etc. Maybe it causes the growth of the abdominal organs - are there any studies that could explain this?

[timfogarty]

it's called acromegaly, abnormal growth of the hands, feet, face, and internal organs, caused by overproduction of growth hormone by the pituitary gland, or in this case by injecting large amount of synthetic gh under the skin.

[badlad]

Acromegaly - yeah I saw that but I can't find anywhere where abdominal organ growth is mentioned. Lots of other bodyparts seem to be mentioned but nothing on the gut.

[LuciusFox]

Just made a little investigation into several online med journals and articles and can't find anything that would indicate why excess GH would create the pregnant look. If anything it seems that GH causes fat loss and stimulates nutrient absorption etc etc. Maybe it causes the growth of the abdominal organs - are there any studies that could explain this?

  I think that people just don't want to admit that we don't know what causes the guts.