cutler describes his cycles

[Flexacon]

From what i know, the Pro's have amazing access to just about anything. Think about all the connections they have and people they have met over the years. I mean i've personally met hundreds of people who use gear and were very open about how to get it. Had no problem sharing their source.

This circle of people is smaller than you think at a higher level.

I know for a fact that an UGL up near Fort Worth was selling AAS to several Pro's 10 years ago. A good friend of mine knew the source personally and i actually met him and saw his "lab". It was a very legit setup and his gear was not cheap.

The high level guys who get busted almost always have UGL gear.

I do believe they would prefer HG gear, but that shit is expensive and very few BBer's have that kind of money. Just the cost of GH is insane, unless you get the generic Chinese stuff.

With all the money Jay's had over the years, i wouldn't be surprised if he was using legit HG gear, but there is no way to know. Only Jay knows.

Matt Jansen "coached" Dallas, Nick Walker, Clarida and a few others is someone who has the legit hook up.

Oh fuck off.

Lol. Bhanks is fast becoming another Howard/Prime

[Megalodon]

It should come as no surprise that the bodybuilders who came out of the sport healthy are also the ones whose bodies respond well to moderate doses of gear. Jay Cutler just has good genetics for bodybuilding and doesn't need to rely on extreme amounts of drugs to do well.

Jay has gotten carried away before.

[Dave D]

It should come as no surprise that the bodybuilders who came out of the sport healthy are also the ones whose bodies respond well to moderate doses of gear. Jay Cutler just has good genetics for bodybuilding and doesn't need to rely on extreme amounts of drugs to do well.

So Ronnie and Flex did not respond well to moderate doses

[ThisisOverload]

Forgot to post the pictures yesterday

Good packaging.

Reminds me of the stuff i've purchased in Mexico.

But they don't sell Tren there unless it's an UGL.

[Bevo]

I think there is something to 'receptors' and how one responds genetically to gear.
some twinks out there take grams of gear a week and look the same (like a twink).
some people (like nick walker) can look at a vile and blow the fuck-up.
sure he works very hard, but 5'7" and 300-lbs, he just responds

Dick Walker is going to drop dead pretty soon

If you’re taking grams a wk of gear with decent genetics you are not going to look like a twink

[Matt]

Everyone just assumes you take 5g and turn into a monster. The law of diminishing returns kicks in long before then. Too much and you are toxic unable to eat. Most of these guys probably are just in the 1-1.5g range tops after that it isn't going to do you anymore good and becomes detrimental. If you can't grow on that you need to look at other factors.

Really? How is that possible? Even the most basic of beginner cycles is 500mg of Testosterone weekly 8-12 weeks. So most pros are just on 2-3x that amount? How is that possible?

[kreator]

Dick Walker is going to drop dead pretty soon

If you’re taking grams a wk of gear with decent genetics you are not going to look like a twink

was surprised how he resembled a fat f*ck with his clothes on.

[LurkerNoMore]

Good packaging.

Reminds me of the stuff i've purchased in Mexico.

But they don't sell Tren there unless it's an UGL.

It's all UGL.  He just supplies the UGl with tests and nandrolones from his compounding business.  The rest is made by others.  The packaging is identical to the real Hikma brand even though they don't make some of the compounds.

[ProudVirgin69]

I know the various test esters, nandrolones, and tablets (anadrol, anavar, halotestin, dbol and winstrol) are made directly in his compounding pharmacy business.  I am not sure about the other non medical use compounds like tren, masteron, primo, etc... but I do know his compounding business supplies the packaging and inserts for all the compounds that gets sold on the side.

My buddy just got a few things in from him.  When I meet up with him tonight, I will take a photo of some of his shit and post it.  The packaging vials are as slick and professional as anything a domestic HG company puts out.

This is so insane to me, a compounding pharmacy is a tightly regulated, multi million dollar enterprise.  Why risk all that to sell juice to muscle men lol

[BB]

This is so insane to me, a compounding pharmacy is a tightly regulated, multi million dollar enterprise.  Why risk all that to sell juice to muscle men lol

It happens. 10-15 years ago, a long respected Brooklyn pharmacy got busted for close to the same thing. He was the the supplier to a lot of the civil service workers in NY, and when they launched a police corruption investigation, his name came up.

[Van_Bilderass]

It should come as no surprise that the bodybuilders who came out of the sport healthy are also the ones whose bodies respond well to moderate doses of gear. Jay Cutler just has good genetics for bodybuilding and doesn't need to rely on extreme amounts of drugs to do well.

I don't think it's that, not quite. Sure, in some cases there have been guys who died or got hurt because they were extreme even compared to other pros but it's more like some are more resistant to side effects. There is no conceivable universe in which Jay was moderate, if by moderate you mean 1-1.5 grams of gear. There are some outliers but the Olympia guys are basically all at 3-5 grams of gear leading up to the Olympia with some crazies who played with even higher doses. There is an average range. Back when Victor Balco worked with quite a number of pros he said all were over 3 grams except one.

Regarding Jay, consider also that he worked with Aceto. When Jay was tested that one year he had 5 different diuretics in his system.

This ain't moderate.

[Flexacon]

This ain't moderate.

But it is photoshopped (plus had a filter added)

His waist has been taken in and his quads rounded

[Dave D]

But it is photoshopped (plus had a filter added)

His waist has been taken in and his quads rounded

It’s a moderate amount of photoshopping.

[LurkerNoMore]

This is so insane to me, a compounding pharmacy is a tightly regulated, multi million dollar enterprise.  Why risk all that to sell juice to muscle men lol

Greed.  Direct money to pocket with no tax ratio.  A way to be connected to "the industry".   

Who knows, but that seems to be the reason most people start dealing in the first place. 

[ThisisOverload]

Greed.  Direct money to pocket with no tax ratio.  A way to be connected to "the industry".   

Who knows, but that seems to be the reason most people start dealing in the first place.

Why settle for 1 million.

When you can make 2 million, tax free.

[deadz]

Dick Walker is going to drop dead pretty soon

If you’re taking grams a wk of gear with decent genetics you are not going to look like a twink

Seems like a decent enough guy but I fear for his health.

[Taffin]

Seems like a decent enough guy but I fear for his health.

It's OK, don't worry about him - he's controlling his blood pressure and RBC count scientifically...