Texas school shooting

[Moontrane]

I dont know how many of you badasses have been in a gun fight. But a lot of you sound like you're 10 feet tall and bullet proof. Lol.

The hardest talkers here don't know shit and have NEVER faced a man shooting at you.

Yeah tactics are stupid. What we need is 100 cops running in there creating crossfire and friendly fire.

Im sure all of you have the situational awareness to immediately summarize and evaluate a threat. Identify the nature of a tgreat, formulate and implement a plan within seconds. God damn.

If only a few getbiggers were there....

Heres a clue shit head Stefaggo: almost all active shooters that didn't surrender were stopped by a gun. And almost all those guns were fired by cops.

Here the cops Engaged with him before he went into the school and one was shot in the head. I suppose hes a coward too?

They don't always get it right. It actually takes some figuring out to do something before you do it. But to immediately label them as all cowards  is fucking disgusting.

Let me tell you- since you clearly don't know- it goes against every fiber in your body to run toward someone who is shooting at automatic weapon. You have to overpower your instincts to self preserve and despite that move in the direction of danger.

I bet you would shit yourself at the SOUND of automatic gun fire. It rings different and rattles your core the very action of it is violent even when it doesn't tear a person apart.

Yeah cops are cowards. Except for the cop that ran in and killed this fucker.

Yeah the media lies all tge time except when they're crucifying cops. Then its all truth.

Yeah even president fuckface was 'gonna make the border patrol agents pay' for lassoing and whipping aliens running across the border. Nobody ever retracted that story even though it was bullshit.

Half of you believe whatever the fuck you want and dont truly know fuck all and have never DONE fuck all especially take down an armed psychopath.

Im sure Stefaggo is a real beast with real world experience.  He balks and the concept of training, tacticss. You know jackshit about what to do with an active shooter, versus a barricaded gunman versus a hostage situation.  But im sure you would know EXACTLY and INSTANTLY what to do if you were there.

This is the story now? So even when its law enforcement that ends this fucker the story is now: cops are cowards.

When a piece of shit dies of a drug overdose the cops are murderers and locked up for life.

Some piece of shit shoots a cop and is let go?

There has been an all out attack on cops by the libfuck media for years. And the spin here, that these cops are cowards is sickening. That any of you believe it, on its face no less is mind boggling.

Ok. Let me ask this parent that just lost the most precious thing in the world how they feel about this.

You pick and choose what you want to believe.  I suggest you actually try thinking for yourself for once on your fucking life.

I hope none of you honestly believe that while the incident was ongoing that cops ran in. Got there own children.  Left the rest behind. While the shooting was going on. They may have been allowed to remove their children prior to other parents.  But not WHILE the shooting was going on.

*and quite honestly if my children was in that school I would have no hesitation about saving them first and fucking foremost above any other person there. I wouldn't give it a second fucking thought and I would never ever be ashamed of it and I wouldn't let anyone or anything stand in my way. Badge. No badge. Anything.  If its between my kid and anyone else you better fucking believe id put my kid first. If you wouldn't you're either a liar or a complete sack of shit.

And Stephano you're a bitch.

Much of your points are predicated on the shooter having an automatic weapon.  He had a semiautomatic rifle.  BTW, you can fire a Glock 17 just as fast as you can fire a semiautomatic rifle.

[youandme]

This isn’t a gun problem or a gun control problem. This basically started with Columbine. What’s culture changes has this country gone through since?

Social media and video games.

[Coach is Back!]

Social media and video games.

And it’s really as simple as that!!!

[AbrahamG]

And it’s really as simple as that!!!

Serious question.  Should any 18 year old be able to walk into Dick's Sporting Goods, purchase an assault rifle(s) and nearly 400 rounds of ammunition?  It seems common sense to me that if you can't legally drink or get stoned that maybe weapons of war should be put off a few years as well.  Please everyone keep your pants on.  I'm not a gun guy but I also don't give a flying fuck how many guns responsible people (like Coach and TIO to name just a couple) own, buy, etc. etc. 

[Coach is Back!]

Serious question.  Should any 18 year old be able to walk into Dick's Sporting Goods, purchase an assault rifle(s) and nearly 400 rounds of ammunition?  It seems common sense to me that if you can't legally drink or get stoned that maybe weapons of war should be put off a few years as well.  Please everyone keep your pants on.  I'm not a gun guy but I also don't give a flying fuck how many guns responsible people (like Coach and TIO to name just a couple) own, buy, etc. etc.

We have 18 year olds in the military….

[AbrahamG]

We have 18 year olds in the military….

That's a legit point but they are also vetted and trained. 

[J. Richards]

social media...   all about attention whoring and acceptance.... if you have only a few followers/friends/likes etc...  might as well get attention by posting guns and threats and going loco ...  he had his "look at me" moment and earned some lead... unfortunately he earned it and hour too late.   

[Moontrane]

Serious question.  Should any 18 year old be able to walk into Dick's Sporting Goods, purchase an assault rifle(s) and nearly 400 rounds of ammunition?  It seems common sense to me that if you can't legally drink or get stoned that maybe weapons of war should be put off a few years as well.  Please everyone keep your pants on.  I'm not a gun guy but I also don't give a flying fuck how many guns responsible people (like Coach and TIO to name just a couple) own, buy, etc. etc.

Not an "assault rifle," not a "weapon of war."

Our military doesn't go into battle with semiautomatic rifles.

Virginia Tech shooter slaughtered 32 and shot another 19 using two semiauto handguns and 10-round magazines.

TX phukker probably thought his rifle was sexy, but he could've used a handgun instead.

[AbrahamG]

Not an "assault rifle," not a "weapon of war."

Our military doesn't go into battle with semiautomatic rifles.

Virginia Tech shooter slaughtered 32 and shot another 19 using two semiauto handguns and 10-round magazines.

TX phukker probably thought his rifle was sexy, but he could've used a handgun instead.

Not gonna play word games with you.  I guess we just get used to school shootings as if they were seasonal storms. 

[Pray_4_War]

Most Americans are angry about these attacks and want them to stop, but we are asking the wrong questions.  When you ask dumb questions you get dumb answers.

The government and the police can do fuck-all to prevent things like this.  We have a mental, spiritual, and cultural crisis in the United States.

[AbrahamG]

Most Americans are angry about these attacks and want them to stop, but we are asking the wrong questions.  When you ask dumb questions you get dumb answers.

The government and the police can do fuck-all to prevent things like this.  We have a mental, spiritual, and cultural crisis in the United States.

I don't necessarily disagree with you but Canada and Europe have the same issues and don't have the same, constant slaughters that we have. 

[Coach is Back!]

Not gonna play word games with you.  I guess we just get used to school shootings as if they were seasonal storms.

You can’t stop it but you can mitigate it. One side wants more gun control and the other side wants armed security and or faculty within the school grounds. Which makes more sense?

[Coach is Back!]

I don't necessarily disagree with you but Canada and Europe have the same issues and don't have the same, constant slaughters that we have.

They have their own problems with violence plus you’re talking about a significantly  lower population

[Moontrane]

Not gonna play word games with you.  I guess we just get used to school shootings as if they were seasonal storms.

Dude, sloppy language muddies the discussion, debate, and dialogue. 

We're not discussing something complicated like particle physics or Coltrane changes.  I just saw an online paper use the term “magazine clip” regarding the TX shootings.  That’s like saying “automatic manual transmission.” 

For years people erroneously thought that the AR in AR15 meant assault rifle or army rifle, and 10 years from now folks will still believe it.

[chaos]

That's a legit point but they are also vetted and trained.

Bullshit. Look at the umber of gangbangers in the military.

[chaos]

Serious question.  Should any 18 year old be able to walk into Dick's Sporting Goods, purchase an assault rifle(s) and nearly 400 rounds of ammunition?  It seems common sense to me that if you can't legally drink or get stoned that maybe weapons of war should be put off a few years as well.  Please everyone keep your pants on.  I'm not a gun guy but I also don't give a flying fuck how many guns responsible people (like Coach and TIO to name just a couple) own, buy, etc. etc.

Yes. It's called Americas rifle for a reason. Of the hundreds of thousands of those rifles in citizens hands, what percentage are used nefariously? And there is no such thing as an assault rifle, that's another made up media term used to scare people that don't know and refuse to learn.

[ProudVirgin69]

Dude, sloppy language muddies the discussion, debate, and dialogue. 

We're not discussing something complicated like particle physics or Coltrane changes.  I just saw an online paper use the term “magazine clip” regarding the TX shootings.  That’s like saying “automatic manual transmission.” 

For years people erroneously thought that the AR in AR15 meant assault rifle or army rifle, and 10 years from now folks will still believe it.

who cares if they think it's armalite rifle or assault rifle or whatever, same w "clip" vs "magazine".  Insignificant to the discussion at hand.

[chaos]

who cares if they think it's armalite rifle or assault rifle or whatever, same w "clip" vs "magazine".  Insignificant to the discussion at hand.

Knowledge of what you're discussing = insignificant...gotcha

[Lartinos]

Always interesting to step back and see everyone’s response to these coordinated media events.

The rulers are puppeteers to the low IQ, emotionally disturbed, and indoctrinated masses.

[youandme]

Think about the social pressures now. Friend lists, likes, followers, etc., plus pictures of who’s doing what with who and where. Kids and teens aren’t allowed to be teens, picking on someone isn’t the same as 25 years ago where, ok you got picked on or teased and then school is out and it stop….it’s exaggerated and prolonged and the kids that don’t fit in are reminded all the time at home with social media.

Video games just adds to a picked on teen’s distraction and outlet to escape to the point that game is maybe seen as there outlet in real life.

[Pray_4_War]

We need to start addressing the root cause like I said before.  However, we also need to harden up our schools which will cost a bit of money but it can be done.

We spend money on what's important to us.  We need to start protecting our children like we protect our money. I've worked at some big and small businesses over the years and they would do their deposits every day, sometimes as little as $300 in cash.  This money needed to go to the bank.  Guess what, several armed men came to pick the $300 cash deposit up and they arrived in a fucking armored car.  Also, our government just decided to send 40 billion dollars to Ukraine.  We can protect our schools, thus far we have chosen not to.

[ProudVirgin69]

the more information that comes out about Uvalde police the worse they look:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/uvalde-residents-voice-frustration-over-shooting-response-11653588161?mod=e2tw

Department of Public Safety officials previously said an armed school officer confronted Ramos as he arrived at the school. Mr. Escalon said Thursday that information was incorrect and no one encountered Ramos as he arrived at the school. “There was not an officer readily available and armed,” Mr. Escalon said.

Ramos shot his grandmother Tuesday morning and drove her truck to Robb Elementary School, crashing the vehicle into a nearby ditch at 11:28 a.m., according to the timeline laid out by Mr. Escalon. He then began shooting at people at a funeral home across the street, prompting a 911 call reporting a gunman at the school at 11:30. Ramos climbed a chain-link fence about 8 feet high onto school grounds and began firing before walking inside, unimpeded, at 11:40. The first police arrived on the scene at 11:44 and exchanged gunfire with Ramos, who locked himself in a fourth-grade classroom. There, he killed the students and teachers.

A Border Patrol tactical team went into the school an hour later, around 12:40 p.m., and was able to get into the classroom and kill Ramos, Mr. Escalon said.

[ProudVirgin69]

NEW: Texas law enforcement officials at a press conference say they believe that all the children that were shot and killed in Uvalde, TX were shot by Salvador Ramos and not anyone else [i.e. law enforcement].

its gonna turn out that the cops went cowboy and ended up shooting the kids

[Never1AShow]

the more information that comes out about Uvalde police the worse they look:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/uvalde-residents-voice-frustration-over-shooting-response-11653588161?mod=e2tw

How is this possible?  I thought they said he was confronted and shot (or shot at) the school police guy?

I also read he said something in Facebook messenger chat along the lines of "why is the school still open?"  But this was like an hour or two before the event.  What does that mean?

[Coach is Back!]

who cares if they think it's armalite rifle or assault rifle or whatever, same w "clip" vs "magazine".  Insignificant to the discussion at hand.

It’s not insignificant, it’s important to be accurate when describing a firearm or parts of a firearm. You have fucking moron leftists that are literally trying to politicize guns when In fact most of these idiots have never shot one let along speak with expertise on one. Biden and that fucking moron Shiela Jackson Lee come to mind