Who here goes to actual shows?

[War-Horse]

U.S.A.s in July.  Ill be there, but like i said the expos are funner than the show most of the time.

[candidate2025]

i dont know of any npc around mee.     or else i would go

[Sir William Idol]

going to shows or competing yourself doesnt legitimize you as a bodybuilder....if you bodybuild you're a bodybuilder....just cause you dont oil up in a thong in front of other men doesnt mean you're not committed or have heart.

[timfogarty]

  What's up with the restrictions on cameras? Do they think the average person is going to sell pictures? 

more likely they just want you to buy photos from their official photographer

[Praetor Fenix]

I attend the East Coast shows when my schedule permits. I know the athletes look 100% larger and more impressive in person, but I don't really feel the need to experience everything firsthand. I'm content with the internet and magazine coverage w/ pictures, although I try my best to make it to the Night Of Champions. Sadly, the main incentive is an excuse to spend 3-4 days in the city, rather than to see the athletes in person. If I had known better, I would have made every effort to see the 2003 Mr. Olympia live. Ronnie Coleman was so perfect that night.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[War-Horse]

going to shows or competing yourself doesnt legitimize you as a bodybuilder....if you bodybuild you're a bodybuilder....just cause you dont oil up in a thong in front of other men doesnt mean you're not committed or have heart.

Thats just a convienent excuse to not oil up in a speedo ,and flex for men.

[Praetor Fenix]

going to shows or competing yourself doesnt legitimize you as a bodybuilder....if you bodybuild you're a bodybuilder....just cause you dont oil up in a thong in front of other men doesnt mean you're not committed or have heart.

I think, at the very least, an intention to someday compete is necessary for a bodybuilder. Its the primary factor that distinguishes bodybuilders from any average guy in the gym who trains chest and biceps 4 times weekly. You wouldn't call a guy who bench presses a powerlifter if he will never lift in a meet. The weightlifting, nutrition, and supplementation are the "training" elements in preparation for the competition, in this case a show. You wouldn't call a man in the batting cages a baseball player if he has no team and will never play ina real game.

In the absence of competition, what are you training for?? To look good for your girlfriend?? Thats all well and good, but the term bodybuilder is a designation that should apply to competitive athletes. Its not fair to lump the professionals, the amateurs, the serious yet non-competitive trainers, and lastly the casual lifters into the same broad designation bodybuilder

Perhaps some simple adjectives, "professional bodybuilder", "amateur bodybuilder", "competitive bodybuilder", "recreational bodybuilder" etc could clear up the confusion though. 

[TrapsMcLats]

I've been to the SF grand prix twice (01 cormier won and 02 PRIEST'S first pro win!) and thats it.  Very entertaining, but it always seemed disorganized... but whatever, it was fun regardless, just needed a touch more professionalism on the organizer's part.

[Sir William Idol]

Perhaps some simple adjectives, "professional bodybuilder", "amateur bodybuilder", "competitive bodybuilder", "recreational bodybuilder" etc could clear up the confusion though. 

probably true

secondly, competitive bodybuilding isnt healthy at all, and there are some of us who have nothing to prove to others whod love to see us travel down their road of misery and health problems.  whats the point?

thirdly your baseball batting cages analogy isnt correct, because hitting in a cage isnt "playing baseball"....its hititng in a cage....building your muscles in a gym is body building, its quite literal.....flexing them onstage ISNT bodybuilding, its just displaying your bodybuilding which happened much prior to that day.  so in many other sports you need other players to define the sport (i.e. competition), but in bodybuilding you do not.

you can be a golfer and play by yourself, right?  cant you be a skiier and not have to race against others on the mountain? what about a cyclist?

there is no stipulation that requires these activities be competitive so the participant can thus be validated in someone else's eyes.

just as i dont give a shit what someone else is lifting or not lifting in the gym, i could care less who hits their lasix/clen peak on competition day.  if beating others on a stage is your bodybuilding motivation, thats cool.  if it comes from within, thats great too.  but just because you fall in one of these categories doesnt mean the other isnt a bodybuilder.

[Jadethegladiator]

Nats are in Miami....I may drag myself to them

Yep, Nats are in Miami this year........drag yourself there.  It will be a fun time, I promise.

[CQ]

Couldn't have said it better myself.

LOL

Yep, Nats are in Miami this year........drag yourself there.  It will be a fun time, I promise.

I probably will. Miami is very easy to get to from here.Nice to see you around here again Jade

[LuciusFox]

I think, at the very least, an intention to someday compete is necessary for a bodybuilder. Its the primary factor that distinguishes bodybuilders from any average guy in the gym who trains chest and biceps 4 times weekly. You wouldn't call a guy who bench presses a powerlifter if he will never lift in a meet. The weightlifting, nutrition, and supplementation are the "training" elements in preparation for the competition, in this case a show. You wouldn't call a man in the batting cages a baseball player if he has no team and will never play ina real game.

In the absence of competition, what are you training for?? To look good for your girlfriend?? Thats all well and good, but the term bodybuilder is a designation that should apply to competitive athletes. Its not fair to lump the professionals, the amateurs, the serious yet non-competitive trainers, and lastly the casual lifters into the same broad designation bodybuilder

Perhaps some simple adjectives, "professional bodybuilder", "amateur bodybuilder", "competitive bodybuilder", "recreational bodybuilder" etc could clear up the confusion though. 

 Except that you could get on stage looking like the back end of an AMC Pacer, or not compete and look like the profile of a '67 Stingray.

[LuciusFox]

probably true

secondly, competitive bodybuilding isnt healthy at all, and there are some of us who have nothing to prove to others whod love to see us travel down their road of misery and health problems.  whats the point?

thirdly your baseball batting cages analogy isnt correct, because hitting in a cage isnt "playing baseball"....its hititng in a cage....building your muscles in a gym is body building, its quite literal.....flexing them onstage ISNT bodybuilding, its just displaying your bodybuilding which happened much prior to that day.  so in many other sports you need other players to define the sport (i.e. competition), but in bodybuilding you do not.

you can be a golfer and play by yourself, right?  cant you be a skiier and not have to race against others on the mountain? what about a cyclist?

there is no stipulation that requires these activities be competitive so the participant can thus be validated in someone else's eyes.

just as i dont give a shit what someone else is lifting or not lifting in the gym, i could care less who hits their lasix/clen peak on competition day.  if beating others on a stage is your bodybuilding motivation, thats cool.  if it comes from within, thats great too.  but just because you fall in one of these categories doesnt mean the other isnt a bodybuilder.

 This is a great post!

[Princess L]

I've attended many shows from qualifiers, NPC, natty, Nationals, ASC to the O to either support a competing friend or guest.

[War-Horse]

probably true

secondly, competitive bodybuilding isnt healthy at all, and there are some of us who have nothing to prove to others whod love to see us travel down their road of misery and health problems.  whats the point?

thirdly your baseball batting cages analogy isnt correct, because hitting in a cage isnt "playing baseball"....its hititng in a cage....building your muscles in a gym is body building, its quite literal.....flexing them onstage ISNT bodybuilding, its just displaying your bodybuilding which happened much prior to that day.  so in many other sports you need other players to define the sport (i.e. competition), but in bodybuilding you do not.

you can be a golfer and play by yourself, right?  cant you be a skiier and not have to race against others on the mountain? what about a cyclist?

there is no stipulation that requires these activities be competitive so the participant can thus be validated in someone else's eyes.

just as i dont give a shit what someone else is lifting or not lifting in the gym, i could care less who hits their lasix/clen peak on competition day.  if beating others on a stage is your bodybuilding motivation, thats cool.  if it comes from within, thats great too.  but just because you fall in one of these categories doesnt mean the other isnt a bodybuilder.

It sound like some one has shi##y genetics.

[Sir William Idol]

It sound like some one has shi##y genetics.

tell me where i erred in my post.



how many times have you competed war horse?  which competitions were they and what did you place?

[onlyme]

All total I have been to maybe 20 or so.  First one was Mr. LA at the Embassy with Gene Mozee around 1980 or so.  Went to one in FLorida back in 88 in Ft, Lauderdale or by there. The Cal a few times.  And many in Hawaii.  The Olympia twice.  Went to the Arnold in 2003