Shawn, Flex, Kev, did they control the tempo?

[Parker]

After seeing video clips of Flex from the 99 English Grand Prix, and pics of the 99 O, and reading the comment on how the quality in physiques has dropped.

I noticed that in the early  to mid 90's since Shawn had a lock on second place in the O and was consistent with his conditioning, those who competed against him had to come in drier to even surpass him.

Because Flex and Kev competed in so many contests, those who competed against Flex knew that they couldn't out shape him, but came in slightly smaller. When Kev competed (although when he did the Arnold in the late 90's-00's, he came in incomplete) they knew he had the muscle mass so they came in fuller.

These three controlled the tempo, or set the standard in non O competition, so therefore more qaulity physiques were displayed by the other competitors. Because Ronnie has been so dominant and no other person (s) has really set the tempo for non O competitions, the physiques have slipped down considerably in terms of conditioning and shape (ex: guts, barrel physiques, no cuts)

[Bigger Business]

thanks 

[shiftedShapes]

After seeing video clips of Flex from the 99 English Grand Prix, and pics of the 99 O, and reading the comment on how the quality in physiques has dropped.

I noticed that in the early  to mid 90's since Shawn had a lock on second place in the O and was consistent with his conditioning, those who competed against him had to come in drier to even surpass him.

Because Flex and Kev competed in so many contests, those who competed against Flex knew that they couldn't out shape him, but came in slightly smaller. When Kev competed (although when he did the Arnold in the late 90's-00's, he came in incomplete) they knew he had the muscle mass so they came in fuller.

These three controlled the tempo, or set the standard in non O competition, so therefore more qaulity physiques were displayed by the other competitors. Because Ronnie has been so dominant and no other person (s) has really set the tempo for non O competitions, the physiques have slipped down considerably in terms of conditioning and shape (ex: guts, barrel physiques, no cuts)

I think the drier physiques that we saw in the 90's had more to do with the more agressive use of diuretics during that period.

-sS

[Shawn Ray]

Ah, massive amounts of diuretics?
Did you ever think about the introduction of GH, Insulin, Mass Monsters, IGF and basing progress based on the Scale instead of the mirror?
IE: Rhul, Nasser, Fux, Kovas, Dillett, Orville,
Back in the day, Size got you noticed but didn't really mean a whole lot. The reward was in Conditioning back then. It is sorely missed in our sport today across the board.
Out,
S. Ray

[240 is Back]

Shawn, when they took back that Arnold trophy, what substance did you test positive for?

[Shawn Ray]

Winny V
A tear later in 91', I got one that looked just like it and $70,000.00 to boot! Doooo

[240 is Back]

lol... i must admit, i expected a delete and not a response.  I am impressed man.

And from the pic of mike ashley on Victor COnte's wall, I think it's "clear" he was not the total natural he claimed to be.

[benchthis]

shawn did you ever do as many drugs as the pros did now or did u honestly have good genes

[Shawn Ray]

I wear 501 Jeans now so yes, I have good jeans

[240 is Back]

I wear 501 Jeans now so yes, I have good jeans

Did you buy them on clearance?

[newdumbell303]

Ray, Levrone, and Flex were definetely the beat setters back then. Best of the Best, just think if there would have been no Dorian Yates?

[Naked4Jesus]

Winny V
A tear later in 91', I got one that looked just like it and $70,000.00 to boot! Doooo

Shawn, how did you feel about Mike Ashley winding up with the win, later?  Did you honestly feel he was a lifetime natural as he claimed?  Also, did you ever exchange insults with Mike, i.e. "you know you're on the sauce mike, shit I even know your source so don't be all about I'm natural, I'm natural... bitch ass nugga"?

[MikeThaMachine]

shawn did you ever do as many drugs as the pros did now or did u honestly have good genes

He is still alive, living well and he only has a natural gut not a GH gut.

[240 is Back]

Shawn, how did you feel about Mike Ashley winding up with the win, later?  Did you honestly feel he was a lifetime natural as he claimed?  Also, did you ever exchange insults with Mike, i.e. "you know you're on the sauce mike, shit I even know your source so don't be all about I'm natural, I'm natural... bitch ass nugga"?

Seriously, if you hear Shawn speak, you know he's not capable of using the N-word.

[Naked4Jesus]

Seriously, if you hear Shawn speak, you know he's not capable of using the N-word.

BAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HAHAHA  That's exactly why I posted it that way!  Dude, Shawn would need a voice over to insult anyone and not sound like a 13 year old white chick from Fresno.

[LuciusFox]

BAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA  That's exactly why I posted it that way!  Dude, Shawn would need a voice over to insult anyone and not sound like a 13 year old white chick from Fresno.

 Shawn makes you look like Shirley Temple

[240 is Back]

Shawn does speak like a girl from the Valley.

[LuciusFox]

Shawn does speak like a girl from the Valley.

 Shawn makes you look like veteran character actor Will Patton

[240 is Back]

Shawn makes you look like veteran character actor Will Patton

I dwarf Shawn Ray.

[onlyme]

That pic of Shawn and his uncle is great.  It looks like Shawn is saying, "Man I said we can't touch like that in public, wait till tonight, and thanks for the win I need the money."

[Naked4Jesus]

I dwarf Shawn Ray.

Everyone dwarfs Shawn.  Shawn's a dwarf.

[Naked4Jesus]

Shawn makes you look like Shirley Temple

Actually Shawn's a lot closer to Shirley Temple's height plus he sounds just like her.... bahahahahaha!

[Parker]

Seriously if we had more dominant (consistent) players  like the 90's, it would rejuvinate bodybuilding. Back in the mid-late 90's we knew Shawn, Flex, Kev and Dillett to a lesser degree would bring it, so we looked forward to the showdowns.

Now the only consistent competitor today is Dex, whose the Shawn Ray in terms of condition, and Dex doesn't even compete that much today.

Melvin is the today's Flex in terms of shape, which is phenomenal, with a better lat taper than Flex, and his posing is off the hook, but needs to get his conditioning down pat...it will come.

Johnnie Jackson, Dennis James, Branch Warren, are damn freaks, but no one has really has really broken out and presented awe inspiring physiques like the top three.

When I saw a pic of Flex Wheeler in an ad for the 1992 USA's, I wanted to lift to look like that.

Now what do you see today that could even remotely give inspiration to a new breed of muscleheads....

Ain't jack there...

[LuciusFox]

Actually Shawn's a lot closer to Shirley Temple's height plus he sounds just like her.... bahahahahaha!

   I have heard him speak. He doesn't sound at all like Shirley Temple.

[ToxicAvenger]

Winny V

really....

and they thought the drol, hemogenin, parabolan, primo , igf and al then chinese diruitics NOT on the banned lists were A-ok?