do you have a gun in your house for self defense?

[chaos]

ok cool, lets tackle all the problems. What's the leading cause of deaths of kids in America, lets start at the top

According to the CDC....

In the United States:

More children ages 1–4 die from drowning than any other cause of death.
For children ages 5–14, drowning is the second leading cause of unintentional injury death after motor vehicle crashes.

https://www.cdc.gov/drowning/facts/index.html

According to nejm, which takes counts from 1-19 years old...
Are you ready to discuss you support of homosexual and transgender teaching in our schools to children? How about the drug abuse created by pharmaceutical companies? Since you made the comparison from guns to a drivers license, looks like we could save more kids (1-19) by banning cars.

[The Scott]

pre 24 weeks it's not a baby, it cant survive on it's own.

Without government cheese and close relatives, you wouldn't survive. FOAD.

[ROBOAK]

According to the CDC....

https://www.cdc.gov/drowning/facts/index.html

According to nejm, which takes counts from 1-19 years old...
Are you ready to discuss you support of homosexual and transgender teaching in our schools to children? How about the drug abuse created by pharmaceutical companies? Since you made the comparison from guns to a drivers license, looks like we could save more kids (1-19) by banning cars.

on top of this suicides are going to suicide no matter what, those 1102 suicides where going to happen one way or another

take away the guns and those 1102 are still dead.....

its the homicides that count and that ratio is  4000/1800  compared to motor vehicle accidents (BAN CARS!)

[Dave D]

pre 24 weeks it's not a baby, it cant survive on it's own.

An infant cannot survive on its own. A 2 year old can’t survive on its own. So we can safely kill any child that can’t survive on its own and call it abortion. The will change the gun death numbers.

[ROBOAK]

america doesnt have a gun problem , its got a problem with drugs,CIA/sarms,psychos and black people

[residue]

An infant cannot survive on its own. A 2 year old can’t survive on its own. So we can safely kill any child that can’t survive on its own and call it abortion. The will change the gun death numbers.

jesus christ, you know what i mean

[IroNat]

Who needs a gun when my hands are registered deadly and lethal weapons ?

I don`t take kindly to disrespect.

Same here, broseph.

[Gym Rat]

america doesnt have a gun problem , its got a problem with drugs,CIA/sarms,psychos and black people

The Oaks of the world are the biggest retards staggering around out there.
Im sure the 100 shootings a week in Chicongo are all legal sun owners who just need some new laws put in place for them.

 

Their lack of brains at this point is hysterical...

Libz - Biggest morons in history...

[IroNat]

The Oaks of the world are the biggest retards staggering around out there.
Im sure the 100 shootings a week in Chicongo are all legal sun owners who just need some new laws put in place for them.

 

Their lack of brains at this point is hysterical...

Libz - Biggest morons in history...

Total idjits.

[residue]

According to the CDC....

https://www.cdc.gov/drowning/facts/index.html

According to nejm, which takes counts from 1-19 years old...
Are you ready to discuss you support of homosexual and transgender teaching in our schools to children? How about the drug abuse created by pharmaceutical companies? Since you made the comparison from guns to a drivers license, looks like we could save more kids (1-19) by banning cars.

come on, that's not going to work, you're being disingenuous. Use the most current stats, not the ones from 6-7 years ago

[residue]

The Oaks of the world are the biggest retards staggering around out there.
Im sure the 100 shootings a week in Chicongo are all legal sun owners who just need some new laws put in place for them.

 

Their lack of brains at this point is hysterical...

Libz - Biggest morons in history...

gang violence isn't the same as mass shootings.

[ROBOAK]

gang violence isn't the same as mass shootings.

Then how come the media always uses gang violence to pump up the mass shooter stats?

[residue]

Then how come the media always uses gang violence to pump up the mass shooter stats?

ask the media idk.


gang violence is just course correcting, let them kill each other out

[Grape Ape]

pre 24 weeks it's not a baby, it cant survive on it's own.

Regardless, it's still the extermination of a potential human life.

Drawing arbitrary lines in the sand doesn't change that.

And I'm not questioning your belief in being pro/against this, but playing word games doesn't change what it is.  I don't understand why the pro-side has to muddle the conversation with word games.

I mean I do, but it's disingenuous.

[ROBOAK]

ask the media idk.


gang violence is just course correcting, let them kill each other out

i bet you the percentage of the 1800 child gun murders  is %70+       jogger youth vs jogger youth

[El Diablo Blanco]

Plenty.  I started a thread a while back asking for opinions.  I now have a full decked out sig p320 with a suppressor. I have a precision rifle.  I nailed some quarters from 100 yards out.  A mossberg shotgun and a decked out AR. The sig sleeps next to me.  Downstairs I have an sig 365xl and one in my car.

[residue]

Regardless, it's still the extermination of a potential human life.

Drawing arbitrary lines in the sand doesn't change that.

And I'm not questioning your belief in being pro/against this, but playing word games doesn't change what it is.  I don't understand why the pro-side has to muddle the conversation with word games.

I mean I do, but it's disingenuous.

sure but I don't care about potential, i care about realized. What is, not what can be. it cant sustain itself in any capacity, not even with modem technology, it's not a baby to me.

[Grape Ape]

sure but I don't care about potential, i care about realized. What is, not what can be. it cant sustain itself in any capacity, not even with modem technology, it's not a baby to me.

By this definition you'd be ok with euthanizing old sick folks who fit the same criteria?

[residue]

By this definition you'd be ok with euthanizing old sick folks who fit the same criteria?

if they want to sure, they're people they can decide for themselves

[Dave D]

sure but I don't care about potential, i care about realized. What is, not what can be. it cant sustain itself in any capacity, not even with modem technology, it's not a baby to me.

Okay but if these are the guidelines, why limit life to 24 weeks? A 4 month old could probably live 3 days without any intervention but you would consider that a baby?

What should be the time limit for an individual on life support? 1 month? 4?

[The Scott]

sure but I don't care about potential, i care about realized. What is, not what can be. it cant sustain itself in any capacity, not even with modem technology, it's not a baby to me.

[JustPlaneJane]

The Oaks of the world are the biggest retards staggering around out there.
Im sure the 100 shootings a week in Chicongo are all legal sun owners who just need some new laws put in place for them.

 

Their lack of brains at this point is hysterical...

Libz - Biggest morons in history...

In the Chicago news yesterday they reported that 50% of adults in Chicago will have seen a shooting in person by the time they are 40 years old.

[chaos]

come on, that's not going to work, you're being disingenuous. Use the most current stats, not the ones from 6-7 years ago

That was the first one that popped up and about as much effort as I'll put into having a discussion with someone that just wants to repeat the headline ad nauseum.

[wes]

Same here, broseph.

[robcguns]

i bet you the percentage of the 1800 child gun murders  is %70+       jogger youth vs jogger youth

Definitely and it’s prob 90%.