What is a SARMS?

[Never1AShow]

I've never really heard about SARMS before.  Heard the term, but really no idea about them or peptides or any of that.  I'm old school, but the gym kids are talking about them and how people on them aren't "natty".  Googled and found this, so I guess they work or they wouldn't be cracking down

Breaking news:

https://www.northcentralpa.com/life/fda-warns-about-steroid-like-drugs-called-sarms/article_cc4a5912-e562-11ed-a832-9f17245bde2f.html#:~:text=The%20FDA%20classifies%20SARMs%20as,a%20dietary%20supplement%20or%20drug.

[IroNat]

SARMS is the Russian anti-ballistic missile defense system.

[Van_Bilderass]

A SARM is an anabolic steroid by another name. It doesn't have a steroid structure but behaves just like one. We know one thing: they are not safer than traditional steroids so at this point there's really no point of using one by a male. The term "anabolic steroid" is toxic so they look at alternatives. The main problem with AAS is inability to make one with only anaboliv effects, but the same is true of SARMs.
(trivia: trebolone has been called a SARM in medical literature.)

Idiots sellers and gurus also lump in totally unrelated compounds in this class, like MK-677 (which I love) and Cardarine. They have nothing to do with the androgen receptor so wtf Lol.

[njflex]

they work thats why they are in question...

[Griffith]

I've never really heard about SARMS before.  Heard the term, but really no idea about them or peptides or any of that.  I'm old school, but the gym kids are talking about them and how people on them aren't "natty".  Googled and found this, so I guess they work or they wouldn't be cracking down

Breaking news:

https://www.northcentralpa.com/life/fda-warns-about-steroid-like-drugs-called-sarms/article_cc4a5912-e562-11ed-a832-9f17245bde2f.html#:~:text=The%20FDA%20classifies%20SARMs%20as,a%20dietary%20supplement%20or%20drug.

'Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators.'

In my experience, they give gains similar to oral steroids but only caused suppression and not shutdown, with a relatively fast recovery afterwards.

Also less chances of gyno, acne and supposedly safer on hair.

[Never1AShow]

A SARM is an anabolic steroid by another name. It doesn't have a steroid structure but behaves just like one. We know one thing: they are not safer than traditional steroids so at this point there's really no point of using one by a male. The term "anabolic steroid" is toxic so they look at alternatives. The main problem with AAS is inability to make one with only anaboliv effects, but the same is true of SARMs.
(trivia: trebolone has been called a SARM in medical literature.)

Idiots sellers and gurus also lump in totally unrelated compounds in this class, like MK-677 (which I love) and Cardarine. They have nothing to do with the androgen receptor so wtf Lol.

Well it sounds like they’re legal to have and use and they’re more accessible by gymrats. Also are they “less safe” than steroids?  Not a very high bar aspirin and Tylenol are less safe also.

[Grape Ape]

I believe the thread title should be "What are SARMS".

Only warning you before Fortress sees this.

[Never1AShow]

I believe the thread title should be "What are SARMS".

Only warning you before Fortress sees this.

I titled it that way deliberately to sound stupid

[Kwon]

Someone been takin Sarms in this clip..

[bhank]

Most peptides are naturally occurring and decline with age Sarms are not they are selective androgen receptor modulators and yeah you just outed yourself as a fucking moron who doesn’t know a damn thing

[wes]

I believe the thread title should be "What are SARMS".

Only warning you before Fortress sees this.

I concur,Fortress will be looking into it.

[beakdoctor]

SARMs, like others have said, are supposed to bind to the androgen receptor and give you steroid-like gains. They're supposed to have much more favorable anabolic to androgenic ratios meaning muscle growth without hair shedding, aggression,  acne, shutdown....

Many sarms were designed to prevent muscle wasting in aids/cancer patients and others were designed to be male contraceptives. One thing I noticed was a total lack of appetite. Also a fair bit of lethargy. I had bloodwork done and both test and e were suppressed but liver values were fine, no elevation.

I have not seen anyone put on any 'steroid-like' size from sarms. But you can get very lean and hard without losing size.

I personally don't like them.

Mk677, like Van said, isn't a sarm but it's ok. It will definitely increase appetite and help you sleep but again it comes with brutal lethargy. Another non-sarm marketed as a sarm is sr9009, it's supposed to increase metabolism by manipulating your circadian rythm. You'd have to be an idiot  to screw with your circadian rythm. Unless you like being an insomniac.

There was a video posted on here about some fat fuck who was totally shut down and was blaming lions mane and finasteride. I looked at all his YouTube videos and the guy ran S-23 a half dozen times in the past year or two. S23 is the strongest sarm and was designed as male birth control. The whole point of it is to shut you down without losing muscle.  Nows this fat fuck isn't taking S-23 anymore and he's a flabby failure who sits around making YouTube videos blubbering about having a limp dick.

[Never1AShow]

It seems the Quitter wants to pick a fight about the drugs he takes?  (I have him on Ignore but clicked on that one).

And just like that he shows what he's really about, drugs and quitting (but not quitting drugs).

[bhank]

It seems the Quitter wants to pick a fight about the drugs he takes?  (I have him on Ignore but clicked on that one).

And just like that he shows what he's really about, drugs and quitting (but not quitting drugs).

I don’t take Sarms but the fact that you don’t know what they are in 2923 shows you don’t know a fucking thing  you are just ignorant and uneducated what else don’t you know exactly fuckign moron

[Never1AShow]

I don’t know what your response is and will not respond any more, but like I said, I’m old school bodybuilding and contest stuff prepeptides, presarms, pre-creatine, hell pre-Tonin. But I know how to diet and prep for a show and know to not quit and take the next day off. You need to give up on any type of physique competition quitter.

[bhank]

I don’t know what your response is and will not respond any more, but like I said, I’m old school bodybuilding and contest stuff prepeptides, presarms, pre-creatine, hell pre-Tonin. But I know how to diet and prep for a show and know to not quit and take the next day off. You need to give up on any type of physique competition quitter.

You mean you are just old and soggy you don’t know a fucking thing about bodybuilding

[Van_Bilderass]

Well it sounds like they’re legal to have and use and they’re more accessible by gymrats. Also are they “less safe” than steroids?  Not a very high bar aspirin and Tylenol are less safe also.

At the very least they are less safe than steroids because we know what sides steroids have. New classes of drugs could have totally unforeseen sides. One of the SARMs gave a lot of guys yellow vision or nightblindness. I'm sure if did a search on SARMs and bloodwork, there would be a lot of liver enzyme elevations and such.

There have been even pretty recent attempts at selling trestolone (aka MENT) under the SARM banner. It is a very potent anabolic steroid. It shuts down a fellas test and sperm production at a dose of 1 mg a day! But guys are adding it stacks at around 350mg per week. I would try a gram if someone gifted me 

That fool Nick Trigili was hyping SARMs as better than steroids a while back. Then one day he just stopped any mention. His selling of them might even have to do with him being banned from youtube now.

[bhank]

Peptides are more interesting and promising in my opinion also safer as they are just naturally occurring amino acids that decline with age.

[deadz]

Peptides are more interesting and promising in my opinion also safer as they are just naturally occurring amino acids that decline with age.

This. Injectable Glutathione is amazing!

[beakdoctor]

I'm so pleased to have the shitter-quitter on ignore.

It totally isolates me from his megalomania and utter stupidity. 

[bhank]

I will say I do believe that PEG MGF caused almost overnight water retention

[pamith]

Bro...

[Spike]

Peptides hormones are more interesting and promising in my opinion also safer as they are just naturally occurring fatty acids that decline with age.

[Taffin]

Peptides are more interesting and promising in my opinion also safer as they are just naturally occurring amino acids that decline with age.

This is genuinely interesting - where do they occur naturally outside the body?  Or are they synthesized in a lab or something?

I'm old enough to remember when the Pros first used Crescormin GH extracted from cadavers, then the first recombinant stuff came out with that extra bit that gave Denis Newman leukaemia, then they eventually got it right - where in that process are we with SARMS?

(Yeah I could Google, but why not ask bhanky)

[Humble Narcissist]

SARMs, like others have said, are supposed to bind to the androgen receptor and give you steroid-like gains. They're supposed to have much more favorable anabolic to androgenic ratios meaning muscle growth without hair shedding, aggression,  acne, shutdown....

Many sarms were designed to prevent muscle wasting in aids/cancer patients and others were designed to be male contraceptives. One thing I noticed was a total lack of appetite. Also a fair bit of lethargy. I had bloodwork done and both test and e were suppressed but liver values were fine, no elevation.

I have not seen anyone put on any 'steroid-like' size from sarms. But you can get very lean and hard without losing size.

I personally don't like them.

Mk677, like Van said, isn't a sarm but it's ok. It will definitely increase appetite and help you sleep but again it comes with brutal lethargy. Another non-sarm marketed as a sarm is sr9009, it's supposed to increase metabolism by manipulating your circadian rythm. You'd have to be an idiot  to screw with your circadian rythm. Unless you like being an insomniac.

There was a video posted on here about some fat fuck who was totally shut down and was blaming lions mane and finasteride. I looked at all his YouTube videos and the guy ran S-23 a half dozen times in the past year or two. S23 is the strongest sarm and was designed as male birth control. The whole point of it is to shut you down without losing muscle.  Nows this fat fuck isn't taking S-23 anymore and he's a flabby failure who sits around making YouTube videos blubbering about having a limp dick.

Great analysis. I think I'll skip using them.