Heart Surgeon: You’ve Been LIED TO About Cholesterol & Heart Disease

[IroNat]

[The Scott]

Thanks Nat, that was interesting!  I've been discussing this with some of my doctors and so far no one is quite certain of anything.  A theory is a theory until it is proven to be worthy of being a treatment.

Or something like that.     Sometimes I feel like a lab rat.   

[IroNat]

Thanks Nat, that was interesting!  I've been discussing this with some of my doctors and so far no one is quite certain of anything.  A theory is a theory until it is proven to be worthy of being a treatment.

Or something like that.     Sometimes I feel like a lab rat.   

Eggs, my friend.  Lots of eggs.

[Gym Rat]

Big Pharma, more lies from those swindlers.
Made billions and billions off of statins. Pushing them on kids now too. (Sound familiar)?
Statins do not affect mortality it seems, so WAYYYYYYYYYYY over-used...  Dont get your lipids real low either, more heart and health issues arise from that.
Cholesterol is very important...

[mphgrove]

Big Pharma, more lies from those swindlers.
Made billions and billions off of statins. Pushing them on kids now too. (Sound familiar)?
Statins do not affect mortality it seems, so WAYYYYYYYYYYY over-used...  Dont get your lipids real low either, more heart and health issues arise from that.
Cholesterol is very important...

Very interesting. Everybody’s body is different, but for me it has always seemed like too much bread, sugar, pasta, desserts, etc. is way more a problem than meat fat, eggs, butter, mayonnaise, etc. Also helps that this guy is a heart surgeon who sees it all up close and personal.

[joswift]

Big Pharma, more lies from those swindlers.
Made billions and billions off of statins. Pushing them on kids now too. (Sound familiar)?
Statins do not affect mortality it seems, so WAYYYYYYYYYYY over-used...  Dont get your lipids real low either, more heart and health issues arise from that.
Cholesterol is very important...

Statins hinder the production of memories , maybe a link to all the demintia we see these days

[IroNat]

Statins hinder the production of memories , maybe a link to all the demintia we see these days

Very possible. 

Insulin resistance may also be a factor.

Insulin resistance is involved in many of today's health problems.

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Statins Are Associated With Increased Insulin Resistance and Secretion

[pamith]

Brutal if true

[Coach is Back!]

Interesting….great video

[Gym Rat]

Very interesting. Everybody’s body is different, but for me it has always seemed like too much bread, sugar, pasta, desserts, etc. is way more a problem than meat fat, eggs, butter, mayonnaise, etc. Also helps that this guy is a heart surgeon who sees it all up close and personal.

Yes, carbs and sugar affect lipids much more than fats and oils. True (and brutal)..

[ProudVirgin69]

Big Pharma, more lies from those swindlers.
Made billions and billions off of statins. Pushing them on kids now too. (Sound familiar)?
Statins do not affect mortality it seems, so WAYYYYYYYYYYY over-used...  Dont get your lipids real low either, more heart and health issues arise from that.
Cholesterol is very important...

I’m not sure where you’ve heard this, it’s well-established that statins reduce mortality in people at high risk for cardiovascular disease.  Posting from my phone right now, but would be happy to furnish studies—although they’re not hard to find. 

Statins hinder the production of memories , maybe a link to all the demintia we see these days

That’s not really something with a whole lot to support it.  Some users may experience short-term reversible memory loss—which is acknowledged by drug manufacturers—but on the whole statin use is associated with decreased risk of dementia and other age-related cognitive deficits.  Microclots and impaired circulation is often a factor in age-related dementia, hence the beneficial effect of statins in that regard.

Obviously it’s better to not need any medications.  Statins, like any medication, carry the risk of side effects.  But for your average American—overweight, sedentary, shit diet—the benefits likely outweigh the risks.

[Rambone]

I only follow Dr. Fauci for medical advices. I plan on attending his class next semester

[OAK]

I’m not sure where you’ve heard this, it’s well-established that statins reduce mortality in people at high risk for cardiovascular disease.  Posting from my phone right now, but would be happy to furnish studies—although they’re not hard to find. 

That’s not really something with a whole lot to support it.  Some users may experience short-term reversible memory loss—which is acknowledged by drug manufacturers—but on the whole statin use is associated with decreased risk of dementia and other age-related cognitive deficits.  Microclots and impaired circulation is often a factor in age-related dementia, hence the beneficial effect of statins in that regard.

Obviously it’s better to not need any medications.  Statins, like any medication, carry the risk of side effects.  But for your average American—overweight, sedentary, shit diet—the benefits likely outweigh the risks.

Great post.

This video has nothing ground breaking in it.

Sugar is bad (EVERYONE knows this).

Life expectancy in 1900 was 46. So of course most Doctors wouldn’t have seen atherosclerotic heart disease.

Yes. Heart disease is still the leading cause of death despite the widespread use of statins. However, it’s better to die of heart disease at age 90 than age 50.

Unless people live forever heart disease will ALWAYS be the leading cause of death.

[oldtimer1]

I’m not sure where you’ve heard this, it’s well-established that statins reduce mortality in people at high risk for cardiovascular disease.  Posting from my phone right now, but would be happy to furnish studies—although they’re not hard to find. 

That’s not really something with a whole lot to support it.  Some users may experience short-term reversible memory loss—which is acknowledged by drug manufacturers—but on the whole statin use is associated with decreased risk of dementia and other age-related cognitive deficits.  Microclots and impaired circulation is often a factor in age-related dementia, hence the beneficial effect of statins in that regard.

Obviously it’s better to not need any medications.  Statins, like any medication, carry the risk of side effects.  But for your average American—overweight, sedentary, shit diet—the benefits likely outweigh the risks.

The overwhelming majority of statin research is funded by the labs that make statins. The last link is interesting regarding statins.

https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/9/e007118

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7670393/

https://www.medpagetoday.com/cardiology/cardiobrief/56787

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/29/health/29iht-29well.9568465.html

[joswift]

I’m not sure where you’ve heard this, it’s well-established that statins reduce mortality in people at high risk for cardiovascular disease.  Posting from my phone right now, but would be happy to furnish studies—although they’re not hard to find. 

That’s not really something with a whole lot to support it.  Some users may experience short-term reversible memory loss—which is acknowledged by drug manufacturers—but on the whole statin use is associated with decreased risk of dementia and other age-related cognitive deficits.  Microclots and impaired circulation is often a factor in age-related dementia, hence the beneficial effect of statins in that regard.

Obviously it’s better to not need any medications.  Statins, like any medication, carry the risk of side effects.  But for your average American—overweight, sedentary, shit diet—the benefits likely outweigh the risks.

cholesterol aids in forming memories, if you have low cholesterol its a problem
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/its-not-dementia-its-your-heart-medication/

[IroNat]

Great post.

This video has nothing ground breaking in it.

Sugar is bad (EVERYONE knows this).

Life expectancy in 1900 was 46. So of course most Doctors wouldn’t have seen atherosclerotic heart disease.

Yes. Heart disease is still the leading cause of death despite the widespread use of statins. However, it’s better to die of heart disease at age 90 than age 50.

Unless people live forever heart disease will ALWAYS be the leading cause of death.

The major reason life expectancies have increased is the great decrease in childhood mortality.

Improved surgical techniques are the reason people survive heart attacks, not statin use.

[loco]

Good stuff, IroNat!  Good stuff!

[IroNat]

Bhanky says sugar is a superfood just like Anadrol.

He combines them for synergy.

[loco]

Low fat, low cholesterol...LOL.

KD = ketogenic diet

"For the hormonal system to function optimally, fat becomes an important macronutrient as it’s the backbone for steroid hormone production [81].

Cholesterol, a dietary fat component, is one of the building blocks for testosterone production [81]. Considering that high-fat diets (HFD) increase cholesterol levels, increases in dietary fat consumption have been suggested to potentially result in an increase in testosterone production [85].

It has been suggested that increases in testosterone concentrations resulting from a KD are related to the high dietary intake of cholesterol [88]."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8538516/

[IroNat]

Low fat, low cholesterol...LOL.

KD = ketogenic diet

"For the hormonal system to function optimally, fat becomes an important macronutrient as it’s the backbone for steroid hormone production [81].

Cholesterol, a dietary fat component, is one of the building blocks for testosterone production [81]. Considering that high-fat diets (HFD) increase cholesterol levels, increases in dietary fat consumption have been suggested to potentially result in an increase in testosterone production [85].

It has been suggested that increases in testosterone concentrations resulting from a KD are related to the high dietary intake of cholesterol [88]."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8538516/

Will read this.

[loco]

High cholesterol may protect against infections and atherosclerosis
https://academic.oup.com/qjmed/article/96/12/927/1533176


"Since elderly people with high LDL-C live as long or longer than those with low LDL-C, our analysis provides reason to question the validity of the cholesterol hypothesis. Moreover, our study provides the rationale for a re-evaluation of guidelines recommending pharmacological reduction of LDL-C in the elderly as a component of cardiovascular disease prevention strategies."
https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/6/6/e010401?fbclid=IwAR2ctrIBpjoUjAZcdtdMhAt3U4b_J-9TYSEIXda51TCRGYNqrO12GRABXvM

[mryorkielover]

Check out this video on YT so you can read all the interesting comments from peoples experience with cholesterol and statins. Here was one comment that stood out to me:


@director2345
8 days ago

* I agree that the 'root cause' of atherosclerosis is damage to the artery lining (endothelium)...
* Cholesterol and other immune cells enter the damaged lining to repair it,
thus causing the formation
of arterial plaque..
* If we prevent the damage to the artery lining in the first place, then cholesterol would not have to repair anything...
* So, it seems that just lowering LDL cholesterol is not preventing damage to the artery lining.
* Diet, nutrition,  supplements, exercise,
proper sleep, attitude, etc. are factors that can keep the artery lining smooth and undamaged so  cholesterol can do its main function of feeding all the cells of the body.


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[IroNat]

Satins prevent heart attacks.

Surgery treats them.

I’d much rather take statins than have surgery.

But I plan on living a LONG time.

🙂

Do you take statins, Oak?

Are you up to date on all your vax boosters?

Do you wear a mask while around others?

Do you wear a condom during anal sex?

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Statins lower cholesterol, but not necessarily heart attack risk, study finds

https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2022/03/14/statins-cholesterol-heart-attack-risk-study/3951647263844/

[OAK]

Do you take statins, Oak?

Are you up to date on all your vax boosters?

Do you wear a mask while around others?

Do you wear a condom during anal sex?

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Statins lower cholesterol, but not necessarily heart attack risk, study finds

https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2022/03/14/statins-cholesterol-heart-attack-risk-study/3951647263844/

From your link:

"Although statins undoubtedly reduce cholesterol, some trials showed that this translated into significant reductions in death, heart and stroke."

Thanks for backing my point.

 

[IroNat]

From your link:

"Although statins undoubtedly reduce cholesterol, some trials showed that this translated into significant reductions in death, heart and stroke."

Thanks for backing my point.

 

Please answer my questions, Oak.