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« on: August 11, 2023, 05:50:45 AM »
Well that didn't take long for him to run down his little rabbit hole about the indictments.   :D

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Donald Trump was supposed to deliver his pitch to veterans. He unloaded on his indictments.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Donald+Trump+was+supposed+to+deliver+his+pitch+to+veterans.+He+unloaded+on+his+indictments.

Mr. Trump  went to New Hampshire Tuesday to deliver a speech on veterans, but he wound up viciously attacking prosecutors in the legal cases against him and suggesting he would continue to do so even if a judge orders him to stop.

"They took the gloves off, and we can say whatever we want," Trump told cheering supporters at a New Hampshire high school, blaming President Joe Biden and his administration for all of his legal problems and accusing them of wrongdoing instead.

Trump devoted most of his speech to veterans' health care issues, saying he would lessen waiting times for medical care, reduce veterans' rates of suicide and homelessness, get rid of "woke lunacy" in the military and generally improve the system for retired military personnel.

"Joe Biden puts bureaucrats first; I put veterans first," Trump said at one point.

And while Trump spoke at length about veterans, he was much more passionate about the legal cases against him − and about the temperature in the room.

"It's about 110 degrees in this room," a sweaty Trump said at one point. "Nice job with the air conditioning."

He added that the press would say "'Trump didn't look well, he was extremely wet.' It's 104 or five degrees in this room! But we're okay with it, right?"

Trump visited New Hampshire, the first primary state, a week after his third indictment charging conspiracy and fraud in connection with his efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election.

Biden's campaign quickly alleged Trump failed veterans and other Americans during his term in office, and that he is still offering empty promises.

"President Biden has delivered where Donald Trump failed - helping create millions of jobs, lowering prescription drug costs, and working across the aisle to rebuild our roads and bridges," said Biden campaign spokesman Kevin Munoz.

But Biden wasn't the only political rival Trump targeted during the speech. He also crowed again about positive polls that put him well in front in the Republican race. He spotlighted a new survey in New Hampshire that showed Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie in a tie for second place, more than 30 percentage points behind the former president.

Christie, meanwhile, has bragged about polls showing him moving up in New Hampshire, which he attributed to his attacks on Trump. In a post this week on X, the social media site formerly known as Twitter, Christie said: "Trump is a completely self-centered, self-possessed, self consumed, angry old man, and he doesn't care about anybody else other than himself. If he becomes the President again, he will not be our retribution. He will be his own retribution."
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2023, 05:53:29 AM »
Well that didn't take long for him to run down his little rabbit hole about the indictments.   :D

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Donald Trump was supposed to deliver his pitch to veterans. He unloaded on his indictments.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Donald+Trump+was+supposed+to+deliver+his+pitch+to+veterans.+He+unloaded+on+his+indictments.

Mr. Trump  went to New Hampshire Tuesday to deliver a speech on veterans, but he wound up viciously attacking prosecutors in the legal cases against him and suggesting he would continue to do so even if a judge orders him to stop.

"They took the gloves off, and we can say whatever we want," Trump told cheering supporters at a New Hampshire high school, blaming President Joe Biden and his administration for all of his legal problems and accusing them of wrongdoing instead.

Trump devoted most of his speech to veterans' health care issues, saying he would lessen waiting times for medical care, reduce veterans' rates of suicide and homelessness, get rid of "woke lunacy" in the military and generally improve the system for retired military personnel.

"Joe Biden puts bureaucrats first; I put veterans first," Trump said at one point.

And while Trump spoke at length about veterans, he was much more passionate about the legal cases against him − and about the temperature in the room.

"It's about 110 degrees in this room," a sweaty Trump said at one point. "Nice job with the air conditioning."

He added that the press would say "'Trump didn't look well, he was extremely wet.' It's 104 or five degrees in this room! But we're okay with it, right?"

Trump visited New Hampshire, the first primary state, a week after his third indictment charging conspiracy and fraud in connection with his efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election.

Biden's campaign quickly alleged Trump failed veterans and other Americans during his term in office, and that he is still offering empty promises.

"President Biden has delivered where Donald Trump failed - helping create millions of jobs, lowering prescription drug costs, and working across the aisle to rebuild our roads and bridges," said Biden campaign spokesman Kevin Munoz.

But Biden wasn't the only political rival Trump targeted during the speech. He also crowed again about positive polls that put him well in front in the Republican race. He spotlighted a new survey in New Hampshire that showed Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie in a tie for second place, more than 30 percentage points behind the former president.

Christie, meanwhile, has bragged about polls showing him moving up in New Hampshire, which he attributed to his attacks on Trump. In a post this week on X, the social media site formerly known as Twitter, Christie said: "Trump is a completely self-centered, self-possessed, self consumed, angry old man, and he doesn't care about anybody else other than himself. If he becomes the President again, he will not be our retribution. He will be his own retribution."
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2023, 05:56:52 AM »
Trumpy cares so much about veterans that everyone remembers when he passed the  Veterans Choice health care program so our veterans could see doctors outside the VA channels.  It was a fantastic step forwarded for our vets.

HAHAHAHA IT WAS ALSO A LIE!  (As usual).

It was passed by Obama.   :D  In 2014.  :D  Trumpy just lied and tried to take credit for it.   ::)  As if no one would ever look at the date and realize he was lying again.

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AP fact check: Trump takes credit for Obama’s gains for vets

Boastful on the occasion of Memorial Day, President Donald Trump and his Veterans Affairs secretary are claiming full credit for health care improvements that were underway before they took office.

Trump said he passed a private-sector health care program, Veterans Choice, after failed attempts by past presidents for the last “45 years.” That’s not true. The Choice program, which allows veterans to see doctors outside the government-run VA system at taxpayer expense, was first passed in 2014 under President Barack Obama.

Trump’s VA secretary, Robert Wilkie, also is distorting the facts. Faulting previous “bad leadership” at VA, Wilkie suggested it was his own efforts that improved waiting times at VA medical centers and brought new offerings of same-day mental health service. The problem: The study cited by Wilkie on wait times covers the period from 2014 to 2017, before Wilkie took the helm as VA secretary. Same-day mental health services at VA were started during the Obama administration under Wilkie’s predecessor, David Shulkin.

The half-truths and exaggerations came in a week when selective accounting was a norm in Trump’s rhetoric, extending into his trip to Japan , where he inflated the drop in the U.S. unemployment rate for women.

VETERANS

TRUMP: “We passed VA Choice and VA Accountability to give our veterans the care that they deserve and they have been trying to pass these things for 45 years.” — Montoursville, Pennsylvania, rally on May 20.

THE FACTS: Wrong. Trump is not the first president in 45 years to get Congress to pass Veterans Choice; Obama did it in the wake of a scandal at VA’s medical center in Phoenix, where some veterans died while waiting months for appointments. The program currently allows veterans to see doctors outside the VA system if they must wait more than 30 days for an appointment or drive more than 40 miles (65 kilometers) to a VA facility.
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2023, 05:58:04 AM »

Trump owns your mind.


Facts own your ass.

Which we all know you are reserving for Obama.

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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2023, 05:58:30 AM »
Who do Vets support more - Trump or biden? 

Trumpy cares so much about veterans that everyone remembers when he passed the  Veterans Choice health care program so our veterans could see doctors outside the VA channels.  It was a fantastic step forwarded for our vets.

HAHAHAHA IT WAS ALSO A LIE!  (As usual).

It was passed by Obama.   :D  In 2014.  :D  Trumpy just lied and tried to take credit for it.   ::)  As if no one would ever look at the date and realize he was lying again.

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AP fact check: Trump takes credit for Obama’s gains for vets

Boastful on the occasion of Memorial Day, President Donald Trump and his Veterans Affairs secretary are claiming full credit for health care improvements that were underway before they took office.

Trump said he passed a private-sector health care program, Veterans Choice, after failed attempts by past presidents for the last “45 years.” That’s not true. The Choice program, which allows veterans to see doctors outside the government-run VA system at taxpayer expense, was first passed in 2014 under President Barack Obama.

Trump’s VA secretary, Robert Wilkie, also is distorting the facts. Faulting previous “bad leadership” at VA, Wilkie suggested it was his own efforts that improved waiting times at VA medical centers and brought new offerings of same-day mental health service. The problem: The study cited by Wilkie on wait times covers the period from 2014 to 2017, before Wilkie took the helm as VA secretary. Same-day mental health services at VA were started during the Obama administration under Wilkie’s predecessor, David Shulkin.

The half-truths and exaggerations came in a week when selective accounting was a norm in Trump’s rhetoric, extending into his trip to Japan , where he inflated the drop in the U.S. unemployment rate for women.

VETERANS

TRUMP: “We passed VA Choice and VA Accountability to give our veterans the care that they deserve and they have been trying to pass these things for 45 years.” — Montoursville, Pennsylvania, rally on May 20.

THE FACTS: Wrong. Trump is not the first president in 45 years to get Congress to pass Veterans Choice; Obama did it in the wake of a scandal at VA’s medical center in Phoenix, where some veterans died while waiting months for appointments. The program currently allows veterans to see doctors outside the VA system if they must wait more than 30 days for an appointment or drive more than 40 miles (65 kilometers) to a VA facility.
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2023, 05:59:18 AM »

Facts own your ass.

Which we all know you are reserving for Obama.

Sorry I like big booty women like kwon does.   

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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2023, 06:01:16 AM »
Who do Vets support more - Trump or biden?

This is about who supports vets more.  Certainly not Trump.  But you can look for a poll and share it if you want.

Who do dishonorable discharged people support more?

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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2023, 06:02:19 AM »
Sorry I like big booty women like kwon does.

Is that why you fantasize about Michelle having a cock?

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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2023, 07:03:06 AM »
Is that why you fantasize about Michelle having a cock?

men's cocks ?? children etc, always some gay pedo stuff - no wonder everyone calls you Pedo Pete  ::)
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« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2023, 07:16:22 PM »
Well that didn't take long for him to run down his little rabbit hole about the indictments.   :D

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Donald Trump was supposed to deliver his pitch to veterans. He unloaded on his indictments.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Donald+Trump+was+supposed+to+deliver+his+pitch+to+veterans.+He+unloaded+on+his+indictments.

Mr. Trump  went to New Hampshire Tuesday to deliver a speech on veterans, but he wound up viciously attacking prosecutors in the legal cases against him and suggesting he would continue to do so even if a judge orders him to stop.

"They took the gloves off, and we can say whatever we want," Trump told cheering supporters at a New Hampshire high school, blaming President Joe Biden and his administration for all of his legal problems and accusing them of wrongdoing instead.

Trump devoted most of his speech to veterans' health care issues, saying he would lessen waiting times for medical care, reduce veterans' rates of suicide and homelessness, get rid of "woke lunacy" in the military and generally improve the system for retired military personnel.

"Joe Biden puts bureaucrats first; I put veterans first," Trump said at one point.

And while Trump spoke at length about veterans, he was much more passionate about the legal cases against him − and about the temperature in the room.

"It's about 110 degrees in this room," a sweaty Trump said at one point. "Nice job with the air conditioning."

He added that the press would say "'Trump didn't look well, he was extremely wet.' It's 104 or five degrees in this room! But we're okay with it, right?"

Trump visited New Hampshire, the first primary state, a week after his third indictment charging conspiracy and fraud in connection with his efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election.

Biden's campaign quickly alleged Trump failed veterans and other Americans during his term in office, and that he is still offering empty promises.

"President Biden has delivered where Donald Trump failed - helping create millions of jobs, lowering prescription drug costs, and working across the aisle to rebuild our roads and bridges," said Biden campaign spokesman Kevin Munoz.

But Biden wasn't the only political rival Trump targeted during the speech. He also crowed again about positive polls that put him well in front in the Republican race. He spotlighted a new survey in New Hampshire that showed Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie in a tie for second place, more than 30 percentage points behind the former president.

Christie, meanwhile, has bragged about polls showing him moving up in New Hampshire, which he attributed to his attacks on Trump. In a post this week on X, the social media site formerly known as Twitter, Christie said: "Trump is a completely self-centered, self-possessed, self consumed, angry old man, and he doesn't care about anybody else other than himself. If he becomes the President again, he will not be our retribution. He will be his own retribution."
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I sincerely hope Trump continues to shoot off his mouth. There is nothing like violating a judge's order to shut the fuck up to get that person gagged.

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« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2023, 07:49:32 PM »
Trumpy cares so much about veterans that everyone remembers when he passed the  Veterans Choice health care program so our veterans could see doctors outside the VA channels.  It was a fantastic step forwarded for our vets.

HAHAHAHA IT WAS ALSO A LIE!  (As usual).

It was passed by Obama.   :D  In 2014.  :D  Trumpy just lied and tried to take credit for it.   ::)  As if no one would ever look at the date and realize he was lying again.

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AP fact check: Trump takes credit for Obama’s gains for vets

Boastful on the occasion of Memorial Day, President Donald Trump and his Veterans Affairs secretary are claiming full credit for health care improvements that were underway before they took office.

Trump said he passed a private-sector health care program, Veterans Choice, after failed attempts by past presidents for the last “45 years.” That’s not true. The Choice program, which allows veterans to see doctors outside the government-run VA system at taxpayer expense, was first passed in 2014 under President Barack Obama.

Trump’s VA secretary, Robert Wilkie, also is distorting the facts. Faulting previous “bad leadership” at VA, Wilkie suggested it was his own efforts that improved waiting times at VA medical centers and brought new offerings of same-day mental health service. The problem: The study cited by Wilkie on wait times covers the period from 2014 to 2017, before Wilkie took the helm as VA secretary. Same-day mental health services at VA were started during the Obama administration under Wilkie’s predecessor, David Shulkin.

The half-truths and exaggerations came in a week when selective accounting was a norm in Trump’s rhetoric, extending into his trip to Japan , where he inflated the drop in the U.S. unemployment rate for women.

VETERANS

TRUMP: “We passed VA Choice and VA Accountability to give our veterans the care that they deserve and they have been trying to pass these things for 45 years.” — Montoursville, Pennsylvania, rally on May 20.

THE FACTS: Wrong. Trump is not the first president in 45 years to get Congress to pass Veterans Choice; Obama did it in the wake of a scandal at VA’s medical center in Phoenix, where some veterans died while waiting months for appointments. The program currently allows veterans to see doctors outside the VA system if they must wait more than 30 days for an appointment or drive more than 40 miles (65 kilometers) to a VA facility.
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It was a FAILED 2 year pilot program under the Obama admin.
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« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2023, 08:20:40 PM »
Lurker doesn’t pull on one specific link. He types in “google” what he’s heard from an ear shot, googles it and goes with the first hit piece that comes up. Maybe he can’t get Pat the fact (with proof) that Biden and the left despise our military and our military absolutely fucking hate this regime with a passion.

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« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2023, 10:18:37 PM »
Lurker doesn’t pull on one specific link. He types in “google” what he’s heard from an ear shot, googles it and goes with the first hit piece that comes up. Maybe he can’t get Pat the fact (with proof) that Biden and the left despise our military and our military absolutely fucking hate this regime with a passion.

It's just funny watching you calling anyone out on posting anything. And did you happen to forget Trump disparaged, insulted every POW just to attack Sen. McCain? I know you can't really fathom being held captive in a Hanoi prison, for five and a half years, serving your country, but I would have thought ALL Americans would have thrown him to the curb when he insulted McCain (and every POW ever to exist) or bragged about grabbing women, or mocked a handicapped person. Makes me wonder where guys like you would draw the line. Is there ANYTHING a rich old white man who had a TV show could do that would make you back off your support? It certainly isn't getting impeached twice, found liable in a COURT for sexual battery. You guys are more fixated on a diary entry from a daughter about showers decades ago with the question "Inappropriate?" So come off that high horse and own it.. you just want someone that is just as dumb, arrogant, racist and closed minded as you are..But I mean that in a good way.


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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2023, 08:42:05 AM »
Lurker doesn’t pull on one specific link. He types in “google” what he’s heard from an ear shot, googles it and goes with the first hit piece that comes up. Maybe he can’t get Pat the fact (with proof) that Biden and the left despise our military and our military absolutely fucking hate this regime with a passion.

Lurker has more smarts than Qoach.  Lurker likes facts and reality.  Not bullshit and delusions like Qoach.

Qoach always denies facts with "it's from xxx insert news media here xxx
Lurker takes that little excuse away by posting one link that contain the exact same story being reported by multiple media sites.  Take your pick, or whine about them all you little crybaby.   :D

Who are we kidding.  You are going to whine and cry no matter what.

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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2023, 09:11:47 PM »
Lurker has more smarts than Qoach.  Lurker likes facts and reality.  Not bullshit and delusions like Qoach.

Qoach always denies facts with "it's from xxx insert news media here xxx
Lurker takes that little excuse away by posting one link that contain the exact same story being reported by multiple media sites.  Take your pick, or whine about them all you little crybaby.   :D

Who are we kidding.  You are going to whine and cry no matter what.

Pretty much

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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2023, 10:00:27 PM »
Lurker has more smarts than Qoach.  Lurker likes facts and reality.  Not bullshit and delusions like Qoach.

Qoach always denies facts with "it's from xxx insert news media here xxx
Lurker takes that little excuse away by posting one link that contain the exact same story being reported by multiple media sites.  Take your pick, or whine about them all you little crybaby.   :D

Who are we kidding.  You are going to whine and cry no matter what.

Lurker, Prome and Agnostic run from legit live debate when called out.

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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2023, 10:05:39 PM »
Lurker, Prome and Agnostic run from legit live debate when called out.

You run from facts, evidence and reality..

You haven't earned the right to a live debate. You have shown you are incapable of processing information, facts, evidence and stick to the far right conspiracy theorists ridiculous lies. You don't listen, you don't even really care what the truth is.. you have decided on something like Trump won the election and like a pit bull, you won't let go no matter how many times you are hit on the nose with a paper, or pepper sprayed or tazered.. you are tenacious with holding on to lies. Us debating you would be like Mike Tyson fighting a Special Ed child.. there is absolutely no upside to it even when you win.

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« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2023, 07:31:55 AM »
Lurker, Prome and Agnostic run from legit live debate when called out.

Lurker, Prime, and Agnostic do not waste time debating retards.   Said retard has been told this and explained why over and over.   Said retard is just too stupid to realize he is stupid.

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« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2023, 07:33:34 AM »
You run from facts, evidence and reality..

You haven't earned the right to a live debate. You have shown you are incapable of processing information, facts, evidence and stick to the far right conspiracy theorists ridiculous lies. You don't listen, you don't even really care what the truth is.. you have decided on something like Trump won the election and like a pit bull, you won't let go no matter how many times you are hit on the nose with a paper, or pepper sprayed or tazered.. you are tenacious with holding on to lies. Us debating you would be like Mike Tyson fighting a Special Ed child.. there is absolutely no upside to it even when you win.

He is the female version of Kari Lake, Kraken Powell, Rudy in drag, and MTG.  Except they are all taller than  he is. 

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« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2023, 08:53:05 AM »
Lurker, Prime, and Agnostic do not waste time debating retards.   Said retard has been told this and explained why over and over.   Said retard is just too stupid to realize he is stupid.


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« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2023, 02:47:32 PM »
Lurker, Prime and Agnostic run from legit live debate when called out.

Just curious Coach, suppose we agreed to a "legit" live debate. What type of venue do you suggest? Who would moderate the debate? What would be the parameters (topics) of the proposed debate? How would the winner be determined? What would the debaters gain from the debate, (what do you want to achieve by debating)?

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« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2023, 03:35:24 PM »
You run from facts, evidence and reality..

You haven't earned the right to a live debate. You have shown you are incapable of processing information, facts, evidence and stick to the far right conspiracy theorists ridiculous lies. You don't listen, you don't even really care what the truth is.. you have decided on something like Trump won the election and like a pit bull, you won't let go no matter how many times you are hit on the nose with a paper, or pepper sprayed or tazered.. you are tenacious with holding on to lies. Us debating you would be like Mike Tyson fighting a Special Ed child.. there is absolutely no upside to it even when you win.

This is coming from a former detective that’s still asking “where’s the evidence”

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« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2023, 04:00:21 PM »
This is coming from a former detective that’s still asking “where’s the evidence”

So says the midget who can't post "proof" of anything he claims. 

"Stolen election"  hahahahaa

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« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2023, 06:10:06 PM »
This is coming from a former detective that’s still asking “where’s the evidence”

I'm actually embarrassed for you SE because you don't have that ability.

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