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TRT in the US ?
« on: November 29, 2023, 08:24:48 AM »
Hi
Writing from a European country. One with socialized/universal "healthcare", and it is absolutely terrible. Do not buy the propaganda about its wonder.

So, HRT/TRT is VERY limited here. Docs just don't do it as a main rule, not for aging, not for post-AAS users who have suffered reduced T levels as a result of shutdown.

My question is assuming 1ml 250mg Test E or Test C what is the normal dosing in the US? How often is 1 ml 250mg injected? Is it every 2 weeks, every 10 days, once per week? I don't mean clinics that just do "light steroids" and give a bit too much, like light version of juicing. I mean actual honest HRT.

- and what about people who "excrete it" faster? Not sure how real this phenomenon is but based on bloodwork I am likely to assume it exists.

Thx!!

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Re: TRT in the US ?
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2023, 08:33:11 AM »
My dr prescribed me 150mg cyp every 10 days. Being the half life is 4 days I do sub q 50mgs every 3.5 days instead of 150mg intramuscular every 10 days. Levels much more stable.

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Re: TRT in the US ?
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2023, 08:36:45 AM »
My dr prescribed me 150mg cyp every 10 days. Being the half life is 4 days I do sub q 50mgs every 3.5 days instead of 150mg intramuscular every 10 days. Levels much more stable.

yEah I've read subQ gives more stable levels as well.
So 150mg Test C every 10 days is pretty close to 250mg Test C every 2 weeks. If speaking amps, not vials...

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Re: TRT in the US ?
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2023, 08:37:17 AM »
Everyone's different, but I got on legit TRT when I turned 50 and my levels sunk from age 40 to age 50 (from 717 down to 253 total) from normal aging and statin use.
Statins kill test levels, test is made in our Cholesterol.

I started at 100 mg a week (he just wanted me to pin it once a week) over time I went up to 125 mg. (.5 cc) but I pin it twice a week to avoid the trough/dip.
So on MON and THU I just pin .25 cc with a tiny slin-pin, into my thigh. Easy/painless and that little brings me back up to around 700 (high-normal).

So at age 57, Im now where I was naturally when I was 40 (pre-statins and of course aging). I tried 200 mg once for a month, did not like it, a bit anxious/shaky for some reason...
Not sure how people can run  high-hormones (maybe they dont get the sides). I felt shitty as fuck at 200 mg...

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Re: TRT in the US ?
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2023, 08:42:29 AM »
My dr prescribed me 150mg cyp every 10 days. Being the half life is 4 days I do sub q 50mgs every 3.5 days instead of 150mg intramuscular every 10 days. Levels much more stable.

I can only imagine that conversation.

"Doc I think my  T levels are low"

"Why rob?"

"Can't get my arms over 21 inches and I only jack off 5 times a day".

"I see I think 150mg every ten days ought to help"
Y

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Re: TRT in the US ?
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2023, 08:43:16 AM »
Everyone's different, but I got on legit TRT when I turned 50 and my levels sunk from age 40 to age 50 (from 717 down to 253 total) from normal aging and statin use.
Statins kill test levels, test is made in our Cholesterol.

I started at 100 mg a week (he just wanted me to pin it once a week) over time I went up to 125 mg. (.5 cc) but I pin it twice a week to avoid the trough/dip.
So on MON and THU I just pin .25 cc with a tiny slin-pin, into my thigh. Easy/painless and that little brings me back up to around 700 (high-normal).

So at age 57, Im now where I was naturally when I was 40 (pre-statins and of course aging). I tried 200 mg once for a month, did not like it, a bit anxious/shaky for some reason...
Not sure how people can run  high-hormones (maybe they dont get the sides). I felt shitty as fuck at 200 mg...

Yeah I went from 100 to 120 and felt like that, shaky,very anxious and I started to blow up and couldn’t control the hunger. 100 for me is perfect.

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Re: TRT in the US ?
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2023, 08:43:35 AM »
My dr prescribed me 150mg cyp every 10 days. Being the half life is 4 days I do sub q 50mgs every 3.5 days instead of 150mg intramuscular every 10 days. Levels much more stable.

I didn’t know that you finally started, Rob. The horny posts now make sense. Back to the bushes for this guy!

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Re: TRT in the US ?
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2023, 08:43:54 AM »
I can only imagine that conversation.

"Doc I think my  T levels are low"

"Why rob?"

"Can't get my arms over 21 inches and I only jack off 5 times a day".

"I see I think 150mg every ten days ought to help"

Hahahaha.

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Re: TRT in the US ?
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2023, 08:44:43 AM »
I didn’t know that you finally started, Rob. The horny posts now make sense. Back to the bushes for this guy!

Hahaha yeah 100 mgs a week drives me crazy, I’m insatiable. The wife runs when she sees me coming.

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Re: TRT in the US ?
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2023, 08:49:23 AM »
Hahaha yeah 100 mgs a week drives me crazy, I’m insatiable. The wife runs when she sees me coming.

That’s what we like to hear. A true Getbigger

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Re: TRT in the US ?
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2023, 08:55:02 AM »
That’s what we like to hear. A true Getbigger

I was just typing out for you to put your avatar back cause you looked way to good to not have that up.

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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2023, 08:56:46 AM »
Unless you're posting from behind the Iron Curtain via time machine there's no way every MD is a State Medical man.

You're barking up the wrong tree. Find a private practice or an anti aging clinic. Yes, they're in it for profit.

You sound like you're fishing for How To so fwiw I wouldn't inject anything but real pharma. Gym bro grade - no way.

But wtf do I know. One cycle ever and I didn't even know sub q was a thing for T. 21g as I recall. 23g was too fine. How in the fuck are you guys pushing oil through a slin pin?

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Re: TRT in the US ?
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2023, 09:00:48 AM »
Unless you're posting from behind the Iron Curtain via time machine there's no way every MD is a State Medical man.

You're barking up the wrong tree. Find a private practice or an anti aging clinic. Yes, they're in it for profit.

You sound like you're fishing for How To so fwiw I wouldn't inject anything but real pharma. Gym bro grade - no way.

But wtf do I know. One cycle ever and I didn't even know sub q was a thing for T. 21g as I recall. 23g was too fine. How in the fuck are you guys pushing oil through a slin pin?

The pharm grade test flows thru a 29g very easily.

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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2023, 09:07:53 AM »
The pharm grade test flows thru a 29g very easily.

I had Schering TE and it was like trying to inject goddamn playdough.

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Re: TRT in the US ?
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2023, 09:17:05 AM »
I had Schering TE and it was like trying to inject goddamn playdough.

Hahaha, Yeah many years ago when I was inject long a lot of crap I had tough times pushing thru a 25g and even sometimes a 23g. But now the cyp I get from cvs is truly like a slightly thicker water.

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Re: TRT in the US ?
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2023, 09:26:49 AM »
Here in S FL the standard protocol that all TRT/HRT clinics issue is :

200mg Test Cyp weekly
1mg arimidex tab twice weekly
It used to be 500ius of HCG weekly (same day as arimidex) then they changed it to Gonderalin (sp?) injected twice weekly (again same day as HCG), but a couple months ago they all started changing to enclomiphene 2x weekly ( either tab or capsule- however the compounding pharmacy sends it)

Apparently the feds cracked down on HCG use because it was leading to a shortage, and then everyone complained that replacement wasn’t doing shit and the half life was horrible (only a couple hours) so now they are seeing how the enclomiphene works.

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Re: TRT in the US ?
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2023, 09:28:33 AM »
100mg a week for me. I have been with my doctor a long time and she even tells me to play with the dose to see how I feel.

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Re: TRT in the US ?
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2023, 09:42:47 AM »
I was just typing out for you to put your avatar back cause you looked way to good to not have that up.

Getbig stretches the pic out nicely (nh)  :D 193 pounds this morning (tiny tit)

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Re: TRT in the US ?
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2023, 09:44:05 AM »
Here in S FL the standard protocol that all TRT/HRT clinics issue is :

200mg Test Cyp weekly
1mg arimidex tab twice weekly
It used to be 500ius of HCG weekly (same day as arimidex) then they changed it to Gonderalin (sp?) injected twice weekly (again same day as HCG), but a couple months ago they all started changing to enclomiphene 2x weekly ( either tab or capsule- however the compounding pharmacy sends it)

Apparently the feds cracked down on HCG use because it was leading to a shortage, and then everyone complained that replacement wasn’t doing shit and the half life was horrible (only a couple hours) so now they are seeing how the enclomiphene works.

They cracked down on the compounding pharmacies.

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Re: TRT in the US ?
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2023, 09:44:50 AM »
Here in S FL the standard protocol that all TRT/HRT clinics issue is :

200mg Test Cyp weekly
1mg arimidex tab twice weekly
It used to be 500ius of HCG weekly (same day as arimidex) then they changed it to Gonderalin (sp?) injected twice weekly (again same day as HCG), but a couple months ago they all started changing to enclomiphene 2x weekly ( either tab or capsule- however the compounding pharmacy sends it)

Apparently the feds cracked down on HCG use because it was leading to a shortage, and then everyone complained that replacement wasn’t doing shit and the half life was horrible (only a couple hours) so now they are seeing how the enclomiphene works.

Most guys I know are on 250-350 weekly prescribed which blows my mind.

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Re: TRT in the US ?
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2023, 09:46:45 AM »
Is HCG / was HCG commonly prescribed in the US with TRT?

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« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2023, 09:53:38 AM »
Most guys I know are on 250-350 weekly prescribed which blows my mind.

Their bodies must’ve been constantly in a state of fight or flight. With thick blood and some heart hypertrophy too

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« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2023, 09:57:52 AM »
Here in S FL the standard protocol that all TRT/HRT clinics issue is :

200mg Test Cyp weekly
1mg arimidex tab twice weekly
It used to be 500ius of HCG weekly (same day as arimidex) then they changed it to Gonderalin (sp?) injected twice weekly (again same day as HCG), but a couple months ago they all started changing to enclomiphene 2x weekly ( either tab or capsule- however the compounding pharmacy sends it)

Apparently the feds cracked down on HCG use because it was leading to a shortage, and then everyone complained that replacement wasn’t doing shit and the half life was horrible (only a couple hours) so now they are seeing how the enclomiphene works.

Whaaa?!

That is a goddamn shame. I loved HCG. I'd srsly consider HCG over TRT for youngification.

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Re: TRT in the US ?
« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2023, 10:00:39 AM »
so can any liquid steroid be injected sub-q? and where are you guys injecting it?

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Re: TRT in the US ?
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2023, 10:02:02 AM »
so can any liquid steroid be injected sub-q? and where are you guys injecting it?

Yes it can. In the abdomen.