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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2024, 08:48:49 PM »
really?

it did nothing for me

heard about it from doc huge

it doesn't cross the blood-brain barrer hence why it doesn't do shit

It isn’t a good drug anyway; you’re better off not getting much off of it.

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2024, 10:50:34 PM »
It isn’t a good drug anyway; you’re better off not getting much off of it.

So maybe it's the Good Lord watching over me

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2024, 10:50:47 PM »
really?

it did nothing for me

heard about it from doc huge

it doesn't cross the blood-brain barrer hence why it doesn't do shit

That is baloney, it most certanly crosses the BBB. You saying it doesn't do shit is an outlier, and I've seen a few on the net. I don't know why, maybe your BBB is more robust.
It isn’t a good drug anyway; you’re better off not getting much off of it.

What's not to like? A definite degree of euphoria, unlike benzos. An amazingly effective anti-anxiety medication, to the point of being in a car wreck and not have your pulse elevate AT ALL. Puts you to sleep, or revs you up, depending on dosage and time taken. I've slept for 36 hours on it many times. It's more like a weak GHB.

Problem is the long half life and physical addiction. Stop it cold turkey without tapering and you are likely to hallucinate and do something bizarre. Benzos you can take for 2 weeks or longer with no withdrawals but you generally can't with phenibut. Just a few days and can have withdrawals, rebound anxiety.

A fantastic drug, anti-anxiety effects with a definite mood boost. But beware. It's a drug in Russia and comes in boxes of 20 × 250mg tabs. That's how short your cycle should be. It's claimed it's in Cosmonaut's medical kit in space.

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2024, 11:10:58 PM »
That is baloney, it most certanly crosses the BBB. You saying it doesn't do shit is an outlier, and I've seen a few on the net. I don't know why, maybe your BBB is more robust.
What's not to like? A definite degree of euphoria, unlike benzos. An amazingly effective anti-anxiety medication, to the point of being in a car wreck and not have your pulse elevate AT ALL. Puts you to sleep, or revs you up, depending on dosage and time taken. I've slept for 36 hours on it many times. It's more like a weak GHB.

Problem is the long half life and physical addiction. Stop it cold turkey without tapering and you are likely to hallucinate and do something bizarre. Benzos you can take for 2 weeks or longer with no withdrawals but you generally can't with phenibut. Just a few days and can have withdrawals, rebound anxiety.

A fantastic drug, anti-anxiety effects with a definite mood boost. But beware. It's a drug in Russia and comes in boxes of 20 × 250mg tabs. That's how short your cycle should be. It's claimed it's in Cosmonaut's medical kit in space.

Yeah my BBB is very robust as Xanax had near zero effect on me as well and I stopped it EASY PEASY

No withdraws or any other shit that can go wrong

Didn't know PhEN crossed the BBB interesting

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2024, 01:09:21 AM »
Yeah my BBB is very robust as Xanax had near zero effect on me as well and I stopped it EASY PEASY

No withdraws or any other shit that can go wrong

Didn't know PhEN crossed the BBB interesting

I mean it's proven to do so and is used in medicine in Russia and some other places. It's quite unbelievable that it's still not considered a drug or narcotic, especially as tons of people have sought treatment for it. Usually the treatment consists of Baclofen that is then tapered down. I first tried it something like 20 years ago when Patrick Arnold introduced it to the bodybuilding world. Patrick knew about the addiction potential as he blended it in a capsule with other "nootropic" herbs so you wouldn't overdose as easily. But Patrick never mentioned it. Of course it didn't take many weeks until it was available as a powder. My theory is that Patrick was looking for something to treat GHB addiction, probably for himself.

https://m.psychonautwiki.org/wiki/F-Phenibut
https://m.psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Phenibut



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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2024, 01:17:20 AM »
I mean it's proven to do so and is used in medicine in Russia and some other places. It's quite unbelievable that it's still not considered a drug or narcotic, especially as tons of people have sought treatment for it. Usually the treatment consists of Baclofen that is then tapered down. I first tried it something like 20 years ago when Patrick Arnold introduced it to the bodybuilding world. Patrick knew about the addiction potential as he blended it in a capsule with other "nootropic" herbs so you wouldn't overdose as easily. But Patrick never mentioned it. My theory is that Patrick was looking for something to treat GHB addiction, probably for himself.

https://m.psychonautwiki.org/wiki/F-Phenibut
https://m.psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Phenibut

than why in the fuck it didn't do shit pour moi?

this antipsychotic i'm on now seems to be finally working 10 days in on it

guess i should have run phen for many days on instead of trying it twice and discarding it

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2024, 01:47:46 AM »
than why in the fuck it didn't do shit pour moi?

this antipsychotic i'm on now seems to be finally working 10 days in on it

guess i should have run phen for many days on instead of trying it twice and discarding it

If you can manage without an anxiolytic drug it's best to leave it be. But it does build up in your system over days, it's usially said the drug effects can last 36 hours due to the half life.
It's best to use a maximum of 750mg for a week when under high stress or else use a "recreational" dose just once a week or less. My sweet spot is 1500mg but it's too much really, the Russians say 750mg is the maximum "attack dose."

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #32 on: February 12, 2024, 01:49:34 AM »
than why in the fuck it didn't do shit pour moi?

this antipsychotic i'm on now seems to be finally working 10 days in on it

guess i should have run phen for many days on instead of trying it twice and discarding it
Your posting says different

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #33 on: February 12, 2024, 01:49:58 AM »
If you can manage without an anxiolytic drug it's best to leave it be. But it does build up in your system over days, it's usially said the drug effects can last 36 hours due to the half life.
It's best to use a maximum of 750mg for a week when under high stress or else use a "recreational" dose just once a week or less. My sweet spot is 1500mg but it's too much really, the Russians say 750mg is the maximum "attack dose."

i'd only use it prior to hitting da clubs

only then and no other time

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #34 on: February 12, 2024, 01:52:07 AM »
Your posting says different

you still don't get it do ya

when i post i become roddy pipper hint hint

ie. it's an act ;)

i'm not trying to shoulder anyone now and a dude backed into my foot and i let it go before i would have said something

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2024, 01:53:24 AM »
you still don't get it do ya

when i post i become roddy pipper hint hint

ie. it's an act ;)

i'm not trying to shoulder anyone now and a dude backed into my foot and i let it go before i would have said something

are you acting when you shoulder someone or acting when you dont?

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2024, 02:09:35 AM »
are you acting when you shoulder someone or acting when you dont?

that's mania in action

like i said the med is finally taking full effect

waist is down to 31 inches will be sub-30 within 7-10 days

smallest it's ever been was 27.5 inches 8)

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #37 on: February 12, 2024, 02:30:52 AM »
i'd only use it prior to hitting da clubs

only then and no other time

Leo Longevity thought phenibut didn't lend itself well for acute use due long onset time and long active life, so he recommended GBL instead (he was talking about acute use before sex). Phenibut reportedly increases libido and disinhibition like alcohol which can result in "unplanned sex." The link I provided says it has well defined "enactogenic effects" but not to the degree of MDMA. F-Phenibut is like a faster acting more potent Phenibut, quite similar but not quite.the same. It's basically the same as the drug Baclofen which is used in alcoholics.

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2024, 02:38:44 AM »
you still don't get it do ya

when i post i become roddy pipper hint hint

ie. it's an act ;)

i'm not trying to shoulder anyone now and a dude backed into my foot and i let it go before i would have said something

Were you acting when you used another mans buttocks as a dick shelf?

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2024, 02:40:14 AM »
Leo Longevity thought phenibut didn't lend itself well for acute use due long onset time and long active life, so he recommended GBL instead (he was talking about acute use before sex). Phenibut reportedly increases libido and disinhibition like alcohol which can result in "unplanned sex." The link I provided says it has well defined "enactogenic effects" but not to the degree of MDMA. F-Phenibut is like a faster acting more potent Phenibut, quite similar but not quite.the same. It's basically the same as the drug Baclofen which is used in alcoholics.

my goal is to be incredibly nonchalant and postive outgoing

and that's what molly did for me

i'm very not nonchalant as i am very easily aggitated and on egde most the time

benzos remove the aggitation and take me off egde but they don't make me postive outgoing more like a wallflower so they only do half of what i want

weed acts very similar as benzos for me, so close but no cigar

molly does it all and that's why i love her dearly

speed makes me even more aggitated and on edge so def not the narc for me :D :D :D

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #40 on: February 12, 2024, 05:05:57 AM »
my goal is to be incredibly nonchalant and postive outgoing

and that's what molly did for me

i'm very not nonchalant as i am very easily aggitated and on egde most the time

benzos remove the aggitation and take me off egde but they don't make me postive outgoing more like a wallflower so they only do half of what i want

weed acts very similar as benzos for me, so close but no cigar

molly does it all and that's why i love her dearly

speed makes me even more aggitated and on edge so def not the narc for me :D :D :D
Is this you or the act?

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #41 on: February 12, 2024, 06:05:59 AM »
Is this you or the act?

That's me

I'm not in my heel role here

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #42 on: February 12, 2024, 06:46:17 AM »
That's me

I'm not in my heel role here
cant tell the difference

Which one of you can spell?
He hasnt been allowed to post yet...

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #43 on: February 12, 2024, 07:00:58 AM »
cant tell the difference

Which one of you can spell?
He hasnt been allowed to post yet...

Just told ro ima gonna try and overcome my laziness

So I guess that's a part of it

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #44 on: February 12, 2024, 10:00:01 PM »
There are some wild stories about people getting hooked on phenibut.

Yeah. Dependency builds up rapudly. I use it sometimes twice a week. Other times ill go months with out using it. When i first started using it I had no idea what i was in for. I was taking 2 and 3 X dosage what most people were taking and i used it daily for 2 months straight.

Those 2 months were blissful. I never had so much confidence and my workouts were insane and i slept like a baby and music & sex were the best experiences of my life. Then the over confidence led to a problem in my life and I had to quit it and it fucking sucked. Worst depression ever.

Eventually I got sorted out. Occasionally I still take it for sleep but nothing like those first few months. That was fucking wild.

Ill say this, almost all women will responded to you if you're supremely confident in your approach. Fuck I felt like I couldn't miss. I felt like I could go to the race track and win at a hundred to 1. And your interest/curiousity in other people. I felt i could work my way into a womans pants just looking at her. I later found out most people take 2 or 300 mgs a day. Some take 700 mgs a day(a whopping dose) I was easily taking anywhete from 1500 to 2100 mgs daily. I was lit but I crashed pretty fucking hard.

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #45 on: February 12, 2024, 10:04:27 PM »
Leo Longevity thought phenibut didn't lend itself well for acute use due long onset time and long active life, so he recommended GBL instead (he was talking about acute use before sex). Phenibut reportedly increases libido and disinhibition like alcohol which can result in "unplanned sex." The link I provided says it has well defined "enactogenic effects" but not to the degree of MDMA. F-Phenibut is like a faster acting more potent Phenibut, quite similar but not quite.the same. It's basically the same as the drug Baclofen which is used in alcoholics.

Also read F phenibut requires about 1/4th the dose of regular phenibut.  I have F-phenibut but haven't opened it.

Waiting for a time when I need a pick me up.

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #46 on: February 12, 2024, 10:34:08 PM »
I never had so much confidence and my workouts were insane and i slept like a baby and music & sex were the best experiences of my life.

Ill say this, almost all women will responded to you if you're supremely confident in your approach.

this is exactly why i want it

SUPREME RELAXED CONFIDENCE

and yep it works very well in regards to getting the females that's why i love molly

RELAXED confidence is the bees knees

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #47 on: February 13, 2024, 06:48:39 AM »
Yeah. Dependency builds up rapudly. I use it sometimes twice a week. Other times ill go months with out using it. When i first started using it I had no idea what i was in for. I was taking 2 and 3 X dosage what most people were taking and i used it daily for 2 months straight.

Those 2 months were blissful. I never had so much confidence and my workouts were insane and i slept like a baby and music & sex were the best experiences of my life. Then the over confidence led to a problem in my life and I had to quit it and it fucking sucked. Worst depression ever.

Eventually I got sorted out. Occasionally I still take it for sleep but nothing like those first few months. That was fucking wild.

Ill say this, almost all women will responded to you if you're supremely confident in your approach. Fuck I felt like I couldn't miss. I felt like I could go to the race track and win at a hundred to 1. And your interest/curiousity in other people. I felt i could work my way into a womans pants just looking at her. I later found out most people take 2 or 300 mgs a day. Some take 700 mgs a day(a whopping dose) I was easily taking anywhete from 1500 to 2100 mgs daily. I was lit but I crashed pretty fucking hard.

Nothing worse than a drug that plays on your sense of oneself... of making you think it's the best version of you. It is dangerous in the sense that you look at it as a life enhancer with positive externalities rather than what it should be: a crazy night out with some mates celebrating something once in a blue moon; if drugs are your thing at all.

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #48 on: February 13, 2024, 06:52:48 AM »
Dude you're playing Russian roulette with that stuff. All it takes is one time where it's laced with Fentanyl and you'll be in a world of hurt.

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #49 on: February 13, 2024, 07:07:00 AM »
Dude you're playing Russian roulette with that stuff. All it takes is one time where it's laced with Fentanyl and you'll be in a world of hurt.

You're absolutely right. These things are not worth the risk. Send a sample to a lab for a breakdown if you insist. I'm sure that in the UK, there's a free service or very cheap that will check what's in your drugs. This fentanyl shit is nothing but a disgusting situation