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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #75 on: February 14, 2024, 03:09:36 PM »
Thanks for the advices.  Probably won't try to develop my Xanax receptors though  ;D

I think my next little experiment might be to try to source some of those gummies or edibles that Rob and others mention instead - getting a bit old to fuck about with pills - however occasional

That said, although I love the US I'm glad those things like Oxy's and Perc's aren't a thing over here!!!

bhank says the pain killers are "impossible to get now." From what I've read they did come down hard on those and many went to heroin.
I have a friend whose wife was about deliver in the hospital. My friend asked for a couple of Tramadol so he could attend, his back was out. The doctors just laughed and said no way are you getting any tramadol. I went to a psychiatrist a few years ago complaining of anxiety and before we even sat down she says "I am NOT prescribing any Valium" in a very stern voice. That is too strict IMO, these drugs exist, WHEN are they warranted if at all? Nowadays I wouldn't even ask for these drugs, they will just label you a drug seeker. You have to let the Doc mention them first and then act all ignorant of them LOL.

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #76 on: February 14, 2024, 03:10:47 PM »
bhank says the pain killers are "impossible to get now." From what I've read they did come down hard on those and many went to heroin.
I have a friend whose wife was about deliver in the hospital. My friend asked for a couple of Tramadol so he could attend, his back was out. The doctors just laughed and said no way are you getting any tramadol. I went to a psychiatrist a few years ago complaining of anxiety and before we even sat down she says "I am NOT prescribing any Valium" in a very stern voice. That is too strict IMO, these drugs exist, WHEN are they warranted if at all? Nowadays I wouldn't even ask for these drugs, they will just label you a drug seeker. You have to let the Doc mention them first and then act all ignorant of them LOL.
Tramadol is easy to get on script in the UK

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #77 on: February 14, 2024, 03:35:43 PM »
Tramadol is easy to get on script in the UK

You experienced serotonin syndrome from it if I remember right? What symptoms did you have and did you go to the hospital and how quickly did they let you out? It's said to be life threatening.

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #78 on: February 14, 2024, 03:38:34 PM »
bhank says the pain killers are "impossible to get now." From what I've read they did come down hard on those and many went to heroin.
I have a friend whose wife was about deliver in the hospital. My friend asked for a couple of Tramadol so he could attend, his back was out. The doctors just laughed and said no way are you getting any tramadol. I went to a psychiatrist a few years ago complaining of anxiety and before we even sat down she says "I am NOT prescribing any Valium" in a very stern voice. That is too strict IMO, these drugs exist, WHEN are they warranted if at all? Nowadays I wouldn't even ask for these drugs, they will just label you a drug seeker. You have to let the Doc mention them first and then act all ignorant of them LOL.

He probably had previous experience with people trying to get benzos from him

AFAIK doctors stopped prescribing those at least a decade ago.

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #79 on: February 14, 2024, 09:27:36 PM »
He probably had previous experience with people trying to get benzos from him

AFAIK doctors stopped prescribing those at least a decade ago.

Well of course. Plus the doctors can catch shit from colleagues and even from the authorities. But my situation was that I had been near death, got a a few dozen diazepam with me when I was relased and then had major anxiety. The thing is, benzos are absolutely indispensable in hospital care and everyone gets an Ambien, which is basically a benzo, at night if you ask, if they forgot to offer it themselves. So these things are used like crazy. So sometimes you ask yourself when are they warranted? On the whims of the doc?
But sure, they should be restrictive and not throw them at every problem as routine.

When I was 18 I started having horrific panic attacks. The docs didn't give me benzos for which I am very bitter because that year set the tone for my life in a negative way. I was in pure hell for 6 months and I think if it was stopped immediately with drugs like benzos I wouldn't have developed such agoraphobia and a fearful personality. So in my opinion they can be underprescribed too.

What do you mean they stopped 10 years ago? The US has been known to be very liberal with painkillers and benzos compared to Europe for example. Here getting a painkiller after oral surgeries is almost unthinkable. Everyone on forums talk about their Vicodin script after any minor procedure.

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #80 on: February 14, 2024, 10:44:24 PM »
Well of course. Plus the doctors can catch shit from colleagues and even from the authorities. But my situation was that I had been near death, got a a few dozen diazepam with me when I was relased and then had major anxiety. The thing is, benzos are absolutely indispensable in hospital care and everyone gets an Ambien, which is basically a benzo, at night if you ask, if they forgot to offer it themselves. So these things are used like crazy. So sometimes you ask yourself when are they warranted? On the whims of the doc?
But sure, they should be restrictive and not throw them at every problem as routine.

When I was 18 I started having horrific panic attacks. The docs didn't give me benzos for which I am very bitter because that year set the tone for my life in a negative way. I was in pure hell for 6 months and I think if it was stopped immediately with drugs like benzos I wouldn't have developed such agoraphobia and a fearful personality. So in my opinion they can be underprescribed too.

What do you mean they stopped 10 years ago? The US has been known to be very liberal with painkillers and benzos compared to Europe for example. Here getting a painkiller after oral surgeries is almost unthinkable. Everyone on forums talk about their Vicodin script after any minor procedure.

tried to get phenibut over the counter but the pharmacist said no dice and pointed at the cameras that monitor all this shit and he said if i do it i will catch big trouble

asked my psychatrist to script them for me but he is ghosting me >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #81 on: February 15, 2024, 07:33:13 AM »
tried to get phenibut over the counter but the pharmacist said no dice and pointed at the cameras that monitor all this shit and he said if i do it i will catch big trouble

asked my psychatrist to script them for me but he is ghosting me >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

You mean they thought you might snatch it and run out? :D Strange reaction to a simple question  ???

I thought it was OTC at your location because there's lots of Phenibut coming out of your location.Though one seller limited it to one 20 count box because users can't follow instructions. "Do it like the box says and it's perfectly healthy," which is true I think. But it's alluring to run for long stretches so I get it.

From what I've seen you can get cheap GH, probably like 80 bucks for 100 but you don't use it so.

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #82 on: February 15, 2024, 07:39:19 AM »
You mean they thought you might snatch it and run out? :D Strange reaction to a simple question  ???

I thought it was OTC at your location because there's lots of Phenibut coming out of your location.Though one seller limited it to one 20 count box because users can't follow instructions. "Do it like the box says and it's perfectly healthy," which is true I think. But it's alluring to run for long stretches so I get it.

From what I've seen you can get cheap GH, probably like 80 bucks for 100 but you don't use it so.

nope he said you need a script for it and if he gives it to me without a script he will be in BIG TROUBLE

i talked to a dude today and a friend of his got 3 years in prison for ordering steriods via post

they don't play here in this country ;)

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #83 on: February 15, 2024, 07:55:10 AM »
nope he said you need a script for it and if he gives it to me without a script he will be in BIG TROUBLE

i talked to a dude today and a friend of his got 3 years in prison for ordering steriods via post

they don't play here in this country ;)
Ah ok.

Yet you have all these bodybuilders and strongmen openly selling drugs. Some have
their "own" GH lines etc, at least they did a couple of years ago, on IG. Or maybe GH isn't classed the same as AAS?

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #84 on: February 15, 2024, 07:57:57 AM »
Ah ok.

Yet you have all these bodybuilders and strongmen openly selling drugs. Some have
their "own" GH lines etc, at least they did a couple of years ago, on IG. Or maybe GH isn't classed the same as AAS?

were they in my current country ???

i aksed a friend if i can have pheni delivered to his home address and he said... HELL NO :D :D :D

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #85 on: February 15, 2024, 08:12:13 AM »
Well of course. Plus the doctors can catch shit from colleagues and even from the authorities. But my situation was that I had been near death, got a a few dozen diazepam with me when I was relased and then had major anxiety. The thing is, benzos are absolutely indispensable in hospital care and everyone gets an Ambien, which is basically a benzo, at night if you ask, if they forgot to offer it themselves. So these things are used like crazy. So sometimes you ask yourself when are they warranted? On the whims of the doc?
But sure, they should be restrictive and not throw them at every problem as routine.

When I was 18 I started having horrific panic attacks. The docs didn't give me benzos for which I am very bitter because that year set the tone for my life in a negative way. I was in pure hell for 6 months and I think if it was stopped immediately with drugs like benzos I wouldn't have developed such agoraphobia and a fearful personality. So in my opinion they can be underprescribed too.

What do you mean they stopped 10 years ago? The US has been known to be very liberal with painkillers and benzos compared to Europe for example. Here getting a painkiller after oral surgeries is almost unthinkable. Everyone on forums talk about their Vicodin script after any minor procedure.

Yeah, I imagine the occasional stock checks and disposal of out of date products at busy A&E (Accident and Emergency) departments can be exploited by naughty people.  So theoretically, if you know people who work in such a setting they might occasionally be able to pass you small amounts of various things that you would struggle to get a prescription for in the UK.  And if you were to do something illegal like that then at least you'd know the stuff was legit

Theoretically, of course...
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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #86 on: February 16, 2024, 01:13:23 AM »
were they in my current country ???

i aksed a friend if i can have pheni delivered to his home address and he said... HELL NO :D :D :D

They say 20iu of GH is standard dosage there. Then I saw the ads and figured it must not be controlled there. But you should know best. I'm sure I could google the answers but too lazy. :D
Edit, I googled and GH is indeed a controlled substance. The phenibut is also an Rx item for which you should see a "specialist."


Yeah, I imagine the occasional stock checks and disposal of out of date products at busy A&E (Accident and Emergency) departments can be exploited by naughty people.  So theoretically, if you know people who work in such a setting they might occasionally be able to pass you small amounts of various things that you would struggle to get a prescription for in the UK.  And if you were to do something illegal like that then at least you'd know the stuff was legit

Theoretically, of course...


Yeah I know, my friend knows a nurse and he said small quantities of different medications disappear all the time, claimed everyone knows it and doesn't care. The authorities do care though, there are often newsarticles where nurses are busted.

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #87 on: February 16, 2024, 01:21:57 AM »
They say 20iu of GH is standard dosage there. Then I saw the ads and figured it must not be controlled there. But you should know best. I'm sure I could google the answers but too lazy. :D
Yeah I know, my friend knows a nurse and he said small quantities of different medications disappear all the time, claimed everyone knows it and doesn't care. The authorities do care though, there are often newsarticles where nurses are busted.

I asked my gear supplier this q

Hi, I have a question for you, but I don't want to cross the line for free advice, so if you're not interested in this matter I will understand. I decided to limit my anabolic load to 300 mg. So my question is: which protocol is better.... 150 mg sust with 150 mg primo or 200 mg sust with 100 mg primo or 200 mg sust and 100 mg sust? Again, you don't have to answer this uestion because I don't want to cross any boundaries. thank you and wish you a nice day

fyi this is how i talk IRL ;)

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Is this an everyday dosage? 😂😂😂

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #88 on: February 17, 2024, 07:08:56 AM »
Follow up email from djicantweigh171's dealer.

Thanks for the email but please stop with all the juice head and music youtube crap. I'm not here to answer all the questions you ask and don't listen to the answers anyway you skinny nitwit.
You're in your 50's and should know 300mg a week is just replacing what natural test production that you've lost as you've gotten older. Not that it matters because you don't eat right, train right, or have a body to hold muscle. Have you thought of going trans and trying out for women's track and field? Thats what your body looks built for.
But hey if you want to blow your moms money on steroids I'll glad take it.
Just one favor I have to ask, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE dont tell anyone you get you gear from me because if they see your tinytitted body I don't want people to think I sell bunk gear

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #89 on: February 17, 2024, 07:11:03 AM »
Tramadol is easy to get on script in the UK
My wife takes Tramadol and I have a script for Diazapam.

VAN HIT ME UP !!   LOL  ;D  j/k

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #90 on: February 17, 2024, 07:13:29 AM »
I asked my gear supplier this q

Hi, I have a question for you, but I don't want to cross the line for free advice, so if you're not interested in this matter I will understand. I decided to limit my anabolic load to 300 mg. So my question is: which protocol is better.... 150 mg sust with 150 mg primo or 200 mg sust with 100 mg primo or 200 mg sust and 100 mg sust? Again, you don't have to answer this uestion because I don't want to cross any boundaries. thank you and wish you a nice day

fyi this is how i talk IRL ;)

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Is this an everyday dosage? 😂😂😂

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #91 on: February 17, 2024, 07:28:52 AM »
Follow up email from djicantweigh171's dealer.

Thanks for the email but please stop with all the juice head and music youtube crap. I'm not here to answer all the questions you ask and don't listen to the answers anyway you skinny nitwit.
You're in your 50's and should know 300mg a week is just replacing what natural test production that you've lost as you've gotten older. Not that it matters because you don't eat right, train right, or have a body to hold muscle. Have you thought of going trans and trying out for women's track and field? Thats what your body looks built for.
But hey if you want to blow your moms money on steroids I'll glad take it.
Just one favor I have to ask, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE dont tell anyone you get you gear from me because if they see your tinytitted body I don't want people to think I sell bunk gear

gotta say that wasnt bad

again went to the club and as i took off my jacket one of the hostess was eyeballing my bod

inside the club 2 fellas gave respect to my bod and one asked for training advices

yea y'all claim im making this up

sure i am

get voice on the raff


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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #92 on: February 17, 2024, 08:37:44 AM »
inside the club 2 fellas gave respect to my bod and one asked me to dance

yea y'all claim im making this up

sure i am

Sounds like a cool club - were you wearing a yellow shirt?



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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #93 on: February 17, 2024, 11:59:33 AM »
Sounds like a cool club - were you wearing a yellow shirt?



wow

your so slick turdffin

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #94 on: February 17, 2024, 01:13:33 PM »
Sounds like a cool club - were you wearing a yellow shirt?



Taffin has been on fire lately.

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #95 on: February 17, 2024, 01:18:26 PM »
Taffin has been on fire lately.

he;s a clever little guy

i mean little in heart

10 to 1 he has ZERO COURAGE ;)

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #96 on: February 17, 2024, 06:04:23 PM »
My wife takes Tramadol and I have a script for Diazapam.

VAN HIT ME UP !!   LOL  ;D  j/k

I'm guessing you need it yourselves  :D
Xanax and Tram are easy to get for me. I'd prefer Valium for it's muscle relaxant effect and general feel but these have been hard to come by in my circles. Not outright junkie circles but what my gear connect has.
Don't take the tramadol, it's might be "too good."  8) ESfitness had a real problem, he went to heroin when he was out of Tramadol. I don't know why exactly Tramadol became such a big thing here. The weed and coke dealers sell Tramadol, even little girls like it. :-\
Kratom was banned here for like decade because they put a Tramadol metabolite in Kratom. Now it's "legal" again, some kind of EU law.

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #97 on: February 17, 2024, 06:19:26 PM »
I'm guessing you need it yourselves  :D
Xanax and Tram are easy to get for me. I'd prefer Valium for it's muscle relaxant effect and general feel but these have been hard to come by in my circles. Not outright junkie circles but what my gear connect has.
Don't take the tramadol, it's might be "too good."  8) ESfitness had a real problem, he went to heroin when he was out of Tramadol. I don't know why exactly Tramadol became such a big thing here. The weed and coke dealers sell Tramadol, even little girls like it. :-\
Kratom was banned here for like decade because they put a Tramadol metabolite in Kratom. Now it's "legal" again, some kind of EU law.

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #98 on: February 21, 2024, 04:50:03 PM »
Well of course. Plus the doctors can catch shit from colleagues and even from the authorities. But my situation was that I had been near death, got a a few dozen diazepam with me when I was relased and then had major anxiety. The thing is, benzos are absolutely indispensable in hospital care and everyone gets an Ambien, which is basically a benzo, at night if you ask, if they forgot to offer it themselves. So these things are used like crazy. So sometimes you ask yourself when are they warranted? On the whims of the doc?
But sure, they should be restrictive and not throw them at every problem as routine.

When I was 18 I started having horrific panic attacks. The docs didn't give me benzos for which I am very bitter because that year set the tone for my life in a negative way. I was in pure hell for 6 months and I think if it was stopped immediately with drugs like benzos I wouldn't have developed such agoraphobia and a fearful personality. So in my opinion they can be underprescribed too.

What do you mean they stopped 10 years ago? The US has been known to be very liberal with painkillers and benzos compared to Europe for example. Here getting a painkiller after oral surgeries is almost unthinkable. Everyone on forums talk about their Vicodin script after any minor procedure.

I just read this and I'm sorry you went through this. Did the doctors prescribe no medication at all when you were 18 or just refused to prescribe benzos specifically?

I remember walking out of my university GP's office with a prescription for 30 lorazepam in 2004 after my first serious clinical anxiety. The doctor was not even that bothered, he took one look at me and took out his prescription pad.

In the UK there has been a well organised patient campaign to limit benzo usage after numerous people got hooked. The first person to seriously research benzo dependence was Professor Heather Ashton. At about 2009 the issue came to parliament and there was a lot of noise. Ever since docs stopped prescribing benzos easily. A private psychiatrist I saw eight years ago for panic attacks gave me an SSRI and four clonazepam, "until it kicks in". I still have them.

Benzos work, the problem is they work too well. Withdrawal is hell on earth, it took me three years to feel normal again.

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Re: are there any natural supps that mimic molly?
« Reply #99 on: February 21, 2024, 04:51:52 PM »
I'm guessing you need it yourselves  :D
Xanax and Tram are easy to get for me. I'd prefer Valium for it's muscle relaxant effect and general feel but these have been hard to come by in my circles. Not outright junkie circles but what my gear connect has.
Don't take the tramadol, it's might be "too good."  8) ESfitness had a real problem, he went to heroin when he was out of Tramadol. I don't know why exactly Tramadol became such a big thing here. The weed and coke dealers sell Tramadol, even little girls like it. :-\
Kratom was banned here for like decade because they put a Tramadol metabolite in Kratom. Now it's "legal" again, some kind of EU law.

Do you know how to use the dark web markets? Back in the day before I stopped them it was chock full of diazepam. From India, Thailand, Netherlands, you name it. Sealed blister packs.