Author Topic: Labrada and his leverage (Read 2258 times)

Royalty · « **on:** February 24, 2024, 07:23:13 PM »

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As he demonstrates the deadlift, he appears to have the perfect compact body type that would’ve easily been squatting in the 500LB range on leg day (without injury)

But I remember back then, he was squatting with at the most, 315LB on leg day.

dj181 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 24, 2024, 07:30:39 PM »

He's a good dude would get my protection 💪💪💪

jude2 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 24, 2024, 08:11:28 PM »

Great complete physique and proportions.

wes · « **Reply #3 on:** February 24, 2024, 09:16:10 PM »

Quote from: dj181 on February 24, 2024, 07:30:39 PM

He's a good dude would get my protection 💪💪💪

LOL

Royalty · « **Reply #4 on:** February 25, 2024, 05:23:30 AM »

That’s his range of motion on free weight squats. He could have been a squatting machine.

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #5 on:** February 25, 2024, 05:40:49 AM »

Quote from: Royalty on February 25, 2024, 05:23:30 AM

That’s his range of motion on free weight squats. He could have been a squatting machine.

What do you think about the range? It looks good for muscle building but in say powerlifting that looks like 3-4 inches from breaking parallel, probably couldn't do it without widening his stance. You do not have to break parallel to build muscle, just analyzing his range. Those few inches could also easily reduce poundage by 150lbs in a lifter, depending on who it is, which is why squatting numbers are completely useless unless you see the actual squat.

Do I see a gut too? Yes there is but I'm not faulting him for it, he looked amazing.

bigkid · « **Reply #6 on:** February 25, 2024, 05:41:02 AM »

I thought this thread was going to be about Lee leveraging his influence in the business to get Hunter higher placings.

dj181 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 25, 2024, 05:53:35 AM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on February 25, 2024, 05:40:49 AM

What do you think about the range? It looks good for muscle building but in say powerlifting that looks like 3-4 inches from breaking parallel, probably couldn't do it without widening his stance. You do not have to break parallel to build muscle, just analyzing his range. Those few inches could also easily reduce poundage by 150lbs in a lifter, depending on who it is, which is why squatting numbers are completely useless unless you see the actual squat.

Do I see a gut too? Yes there is but I'm not faulting him for it, he looked amazing.

i did 1/4 squats as a teen to improve my vertical jump and it worked

i could dunk a volleyball but not a basketball needed bout 4 more inches to my vertical for that since i cant palm a basketball so i had to use two hands to dunk

Royalty · « **Reply #8 on:** February 25, 2024, 05:53:58 AM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on February 25, 2024, 05:40:49 AM

What do you think about the range? It looks good for muscle building but in say powerlifting that looks like 3-4 inches from breaking parallel, probably couldn't do it without widening his stance. You do not have to break parallel to build muscle, just analyzing his range. Those few inches could also easily reduce poundage by 150lbs in a lifter, depending on who it is, which is why squatting numbers are completely useless unless you see the actual squat.

Do I see a gut too? Yes there is but I'm not faulting him for it, he looked amazing.

It’s definitely above parallel. Haney squatted to roughly the same depth. But Labrada looks much more like a natural squater than Haney.

Hulkotron · « **Reply #9 on:** February 25, 2024, 05:56:53 AM »

He would look small standing next to bhanks.

joswift · « **Reply #10 on:** February 25, 2024, 05:58:03 AM »

7mins 50, his curl is way stricter than any SC Brian has ever done

I bet Brian couldnt curl 100lbs like Labrada is doing there.

Royalty · « **Reply #11 on:** February 25, 2024, 07:49:43 AM »

Quote from: joswift on February 25, 2024, 05:58:03 AM

7mins 50, his curl is way stricter than any SC Brian has ever done

I bet Brian couldnt curl 100lbs like Labrada is doing there.

Labrada’s arms were THICK

Gym Rat · « **Reply #12 on:** February 25, 2024, 07:58:20 AM »

Quote from: Royalty on February 24, 2024, 07:23:13 PM

Go to 4:20

As he demonstrates the deadlift, he appears to have the perfect compact body type that would’ve easily been squatting in the 500LB range on leg day (without injury)

But I remember back then, he was squatting with at the most, 315LB on leg day.

Thats plenty for BB and building Muscle.

Royalty · « **Reply #13 on:** February 25, 2024, 09:17:47 AM »

It’s amazing to think that Labrada competed against:

Peak Haney at 1991 Mr Olympia
Peak Wheeler at 1993 Arnold Classic
Peak Yates at 1993 Mr Olympia
Peak Francois at 1995 Arnold Classic

Royalty · « **Reply #14 on:** February 25, 2024, 09:37:55 AM »

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loco · « **Reply #15 on:** February 25, 2024, 09:40:17 AM »

Educated and well spoken, both in English and in Español.

oldtimer1 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 25, 2024, 10:00:03 AM »

Seems like there are three kinds of squats.

1. Bodybuilder squats like Labrada did. Relatively close stance and a half squat. Feet are relatively straight.

2. Olympic squats with a high bar and hip wide to shoulder wide going ass to grass deep. Platz squatted like that. Shawn ray was a pretty deep squatter too. Knees and feet go out.

3. Power lifting with a super low bar placement. Wide stance and what could be described as a hip lock half squat. Interesting in powerlifting in the 70's and even early 80's many power lifters went pretty deep. Now the majority do a shallow squat that's a little over a half squat.

Regarding Labrada and his gut wearing a belt it happens to most with squatting. The gut comes out a bit. He always had a very tight waist on stage.

loco · « **Reply #17 on:** February 25, 2024, 10:18:12 AM »

Quote from: Royalty on February 25, 2024, 09:17:47 AM

It’s amazing to think that Labrada competed against:

Peak Haney at 1991 Mr Olympia
Peak Wheeler at 1993 Arnold Classic
Peak Yates at 1993 Mr Olympia
Peak Francois at 1995 Arnold Classic

Didn't he place in the top 5 too most of the time?

joswift · « **Reply #18 on:** February 25, 2024, 11:32:33 AM »

Quote from: loco on February 25, 2024, 10:18:12 AM

Didn't he place in the top 5 too most of the time?

no
1986 IFBB Night of Champions (1st Place)
1987 IFBB Pro World Cup (2nd Place)
1987 IFBB Mr. Olympia (3rd Place)
1987 IFBB Pro German Grand Prix (3rd Place)
1987 IFBB Pro French Grand Prix (3rd Place)
1988 IFBB Mr. Olympia (4th Place)
1988 IFBB Pro German Grand Prix (3rd Place)
1988 IFBB Pro Greek Grand Prix (1st Place)
1988 IFBB Pro British Grand Prix (1st Place)
1988 IFBB Pro Spanish Grand Prix, Madrid (1st Place)
1988 IFBB Pro Italian Grand Prix (2nd Place)
1988 IFBB Pro French Grand Prix (2nd Place)
1988 IFBB Pro Spanish Grand Prix, Barcelona (1st Place)
1989 IFBB Mr. Olympia (2nd Place)
1989 IFBB Pro Dutch Grand Prix (1st Place)
1989 IFBB Pro Finnish Grand Prix (1st Place)
1990 IFBB Mr. Olympia (2nd Place)
1991 IFBB Mr. Olympia (4th Place)
1992 IFBB Mr. Olympia (3rd Place)
1992 IFBB Pro World Cup (1st Place)
1993 IFBB Ironman Pro Invitational (2nd Place)
1993 IFBB Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic (2nd Place)
1993 IFBB Mr. Olympia (4th Place)
1995 IFBB Arnold Classic (5th Place)

Royalty · « **Reply #19 on:** February 25, 2024, 12:00:11 PM »

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Rambone · « **Reply #20 on:** February 25, 2024, 02:32:38 PM »

Did Lee grow a mustache in an attempt to excite the ~~gay~~ judges and draw more applause from the ~~gay~~ crowd? Or was it a Mentzer tribute? (The only way I’d be able to respect his grooming choices)

Royalty · « **Reply #21 on:** February 25, 2024, 02:45:07 PM »

Quote from: Rambone on February 25, 2024, 02:32:38 PM

Did Lee grow a mustache in an attempt to excite the ~~gay~~ judges and draw more applause from the ~~gay~~ crowd? Or was it a Mentzer tribute? (The only way I’d be able to respect his grooming choices)

Definitely a Mentzer tribute.

Labrada was a disciple of Mentzer’s principles.

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #22 on:** February 25, 2024, 03:14:18 PM »

From my understanding Hunter doesn't take Lee's advices much. But that's common, hard to take advices from very close relations

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #23 on:** February 25, 2024, 03:16:18 PM »

Quote from: Royalty on February 25, 2024, 05:53:58 AM

It’s definitely above parallel. Haney squatted to roughly the same depth. But Labrada looks much more like a natural squater than Haney.

Nothing wrong with that, but that's half a squat. But the form looks like it really hit quads as opposed to back or whatever.

Hulkotron · « **Reply #24 on:** February 25, 2024, 03:16:56 PM »

Jesus dude I have a 4-year degree in Finance. I am a Chartered Financial Analyst. I know all about leverage. I traded leverage derivatives for a decade. I know how leverage works. I have also bought and sold a half dozen properties over the years. I have had mortgages. I get a low interest rate is supposedly free money. Leverage increases your expected return it also increases your risk and expected losses. You put 10% down market drops 20% you are upside down on that mortgage now. I actually worked at Fannie Mae modelling and collateralizing whole loans into MBS for fuck sake dude tell me how leverage in real estate mortgages works.

You want to leverage 10 to 1 on a mortgage I can put the same money in a derivative contract and leverage 100 to 1. I don't need to use my house to create leverage.